Water by the River

Member
  • Content count

    1,214
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by Water by the River

  1. Oh, there are a lot. An infinity of crocodiles. Until the is no separate anything left, they will bite for (near) eternity. Whom? The imagined illusory separate self. No separate-self gets left behind. They are all killed and eaten by the crocodile in the end. Leave no separate-self man behind:
  2. You will understand why (true) Enlightenment can't be a hallucination when you have the realization of Enlightenment. Not one moment before. Impossible to explain. It is Absolute, beyond any possible doubt. It is the only Reality. Infinite, without a second, with no alternativ to it. It is the Reality of YOU, and the Reality of the "world" that you experience (I assume) as outside. There is no outside. Only You. You can not doubt that, nothing can gaslight you in that realization. It is beyond all of that. What arrogance!!! Nice piece of real estate for happy&carefree living, hm? What this Absolute Reality/True Being (without anything possibly outside of it, aka Oneness or Nondual or Infinite or One without a second) can do/imagine/manifest: Even God or Reality is exploring that. And that is forever an Infinity, never to reach the end. God will forever explore its potential of manifestation, will never reach the end. In the end is a mystery to itself, when it comes to the manifestation side. Here, Leo and I align. Although he is a bit more fascinated on the Consciousness OF side, which for me is just appearance, because any perspective/being/consciousness of/Alien/God/human/ant/whatever is itself also just appearance. Appearing IN THAT. While the essence of Reality, and of any appearance or manifestation (alien n+1 or not), your True Infinite Being, can very well be realized. Its you. True you. Not the illusion. On that side (not on the manifestation side or consciousness OF), the bug stops here. Koan de jour: Where does the bug stop?
  3. "Suffering, psychological suffering, is not necessary and can be avoided. However, there is certainly pain and that cannot be avoided. Hence the distinction. To enjoy pleasure and suffer pain is part of the package of having a body. Psychological suffering is the most intense of all and it is not necessary. If you don’t want to make a distinction, I cannot explain why psychological suffering is not necessary. Psychological suffering is related to the notion of a sufferer, a person. It is always related to past and future. Consider for instance the case of my friend William Samuel. During World War II he was in China. He was assigned a Chinese interpreter who was a Taoist sage, although he didn’t know it at the time. The first thing that he noticed about this man was that he was always happy, smiling and enjoying. One day they were in great danger. William’s platoon was being pursued by the Japanese who were very close. They were running back towards their lines. There were hills on the horizon and the sage pointed to the purple line of the mountains and said to William, “Look, how beautiful!” William said, “It was the last thing I would have thought about at that moment.” Some time later William discovered that three months earlier the sage’s wife had been raped and killed by the Japanese and that they had also killed his two sons. That’s what triggered his interest in this man, and he eventually became his student. This Taoist sage was free from the past. He may have been in pain, but he was not suffering on account of the death of his wife and children. In seeing the beauty of the purple hills while under enemy fire, he was teaching a wonderful lesson in courage and love. It is hard to imagine more atrocious circumstances." Francis Lucille, The Perfume of Silence The sufferer and suffering is an arising in Infinite Being. It is not real. It truly is not, and until that is obvious for you 24/7 these kind of questions will bug you - quite a lot. It all just appears, and is illusion. There are no 12-year-old-daughters kidnapped and raped 60 times a day by Isis. There is no such being as your 12 year old daughter. There is no you truly having a daughter. Only the illusion of it. There truly only is Infinite Being, YOU. True You. Capital letters. Who is thinking about all these Horror Szenarios again? Where has the nightmare of last nights dream gone? So, after stepped quite a lot on the Absolute Side of the Street, WbtR steps back to the relative side of the street, and wishes Breakingthewall a nice day
  4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion "The Taiping Rebellion, also known as the Taiping Civil War or the Taiping Revolution, was a civil war in China between the Manchu-led Qing dynasty and the Hakka-led Taiping Heavenly Kingdom. The conflict lasted for 14 years, from its outbreak in 1850 until the fall of Taiping-controlled Nanjing—which they had renamed Tianjing "heavenly capital"—in 1864. However, the last rebel forces were not defeated until August 1871. Estimates of the conflict's death toll range between 20 and 30 million people, representing 5–10% of China's population at that time.[5] While the Qing ultimately defeated the rebellion, the victory came at a great cost to the state's economic and political viability. The uprising was led by Hong Xiuquan, an ethnic Hakka who had proclaimed himself to be the brother of Jesus Christ." The Koan de jour: WHO did that??
  5. Surface Structure of Enlightenment: The interpretation and expression of Enlightenment (realizing ones True Being as Infinite Being/Totality/Nothingness appearing as Infinite Being, which is the end of believing and buying into the illusion-appearance of a separate-anything/self in any way) is dependend on the structure/body-mind. And that evolves and changes. And has an endless variety. (surface structure). Deep Structure of Enlightenment: A Being in non-physical subtle realms, beings containing a whole realm or a World Soul, or even an alien from another galaxy will have a different expression - and a much different appearance and understanding in its mind-stream/perspective than an enlightend human. Yet, if you ask them "What are you?" the answer is "Infinite Being/The Totality/all there is/Nothing and everything". And if you ask them if they suffer (or resists some parts of their nondual being/appearances), the answer is "no, in this nondual mind-state with the separate-self-contraction/illusion seen through and cut off there is no suffering or resistance of parts of ones own being, there is bliss of the nature of my True Nondual Being, the Infinite Totality itself". Sat Chit Ananda. So, "they" are are aware that they are the Infinite Totality beyond which nothing can exist/appear, and there is no separate anything/self left. And that is the crucial difference to part-time and incomplete Awakenings of a separate-self-illusion. Ralston has now opened up a stage humans can develop to, which by the way is nothing new. Just read Harri Aalto for example, and many of the past masters. Wolinsky writes about Alien Realms for example, Jac O'Keffee, Ziewe also, and what not. What were Alien realms/expressions of consciousness called in medieval times? Divine beings, archetypes, and many names. And the mystical literature is full of that, including merging and becoming them. But giving too much importance to these new alien/divine islands of appearance (appearance, which they all are, since the "one" perceiving them is also structure-appearance), especially coming from an unenlightened being with separate-self well & alive & not fully transcended having awakening experiences ... well, suffering until wising up. Too much fascination with ones own tail or manifestation so to say. And that too much fascination prevents Enlightenment... because what is this fascination? An essential building block of the separate-self illusion. It is not that there is no room for alien islands of consciousness in Water by the Rivers perspective. It is just that no ultimate importance is given to them, because if that is the highest goal, only suffering will follow - as with every fascination on aspects of ones own being/tail that makes the separate-self grasp on certain experiences. The ocean is always right here, eternally so. If one is busy wave-surfing, one never drops into the Infinite Ocean fully, never truly becomes it on deep identity level (with all the benefits of persistant nondual states), and always stays the "wave-surfer". Yet, for some beings it seems to be their Raison d'être, so all its fine. Ignorance (or suffering separation and the absence of Sat Chit Ananda) is only a bad idea from the perspective of ignorance - Francis Lucille. For the Totality looking through all eyes its great fun! Else it wouldn't happen. Selling little alien islands in "the" Infinite Ocean to eagerly fascinated seekers (while keeping n+1 or an infinity of them for future hypnotizing explorations)
  6. Maybe (real) You is the octopus, Alien, what Not,…, already? In a totally obvious way, if certain illusions of duality and separation are cleared away? Fascinating. What does Nonduality and Oneness actually mean and imply? Which apparently is supposed to always be true , or the case? Oh well, just forgot, we are sometimes a little bit selective here, and are not always aware of this Absolute Truth. Some minor or major illusions of separation and duality sometimes interfere. But nothing that some substances can not temporary, at least partly, clarify a bit. Partly. Temporary.
  7. And now imagine n plus 1 leaps, and n to infinity. Whoopsy, scary stuff, hm? And yet, it is still just more islands in „the“ ocean. And who are what is „the“ ocean again? Appearance of talking to „myself“ appearing by the River
  8. Not for the illusionary self… because that would be its death.
  9. Ah, „that“ ocean. And who or what is „the“ ocean again? Who or what is perceiving all its endless islands again? „Who“ is the alien again?
  10. 29:46 Role Of Psychedelics And Their Effects After Self-Realization Summary effect after Self-Realization: Ahem. Um. Hmmmm. So... iconoclast (plural iconoclasts) (historical, Christianity) One who destroys religious images or icons, especially an opponent of the Orthodox Church in the 8th and 9th centuries, or a Puritan during the European Reformation. One who opposes orthodoxy and religion; one who adheres to the doctrine of iconoclasm. (by extension) One who attacks cherished beliefs; a maverick. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iconoclast And hey: The guy lives in SF, seems rather friendly and nice, and he offered for anybody who wants to see this to come & smoke the pipe of peace with ingridients of interest! So why not someone more or less local go there and proove the gig and/or fraud? Wouldn't that be interesting? Selling Bilderstürmer by the River And in case yours truly caused an increased blood-pressure with the link above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ode_to_Joy "Joy, thou shining spark of God, Daughter of Elysium, With fiery rapture, goddess, We approach thy shrine! Your magic reunites those Whom stern custom has parted;* All men will become brothers* Under your protective wing. ... Be embraced, all ye millions! With a kiss for all the world! Brothers, beyond the stars Surely dwells a loving Father. Do you kneel before Him, oh millions? Do you feel the Creator's presence? Seek Him beyond the stars! He must dwell beyond the stars"
  11. Here we are in an area where Ludwig Wittgenstein & Nagarjuna have placed signs stating "Whereof one can not speak, thereof one must be silent". Therefor the Sales chap mumbling "What is THIS??" by the River recommends Bassui: "Who is hearing these words right now?"
  12. Very nice description. According to Ingram, Yang and Thisdell, enough of these will make the survival of any remaining separate-self-lenses quite challenging. That enormous "place" without time, space, anything at all, not even nothing, is always right here, right now. Eternally or timelessly so. It is not in time. Daniel Brown commented that Nagarjuna & company (the guys who sparked the Nondual Revolution in Buddhism, from early Buddhism and its cessation as summum bonum towards Mahayanas True Nonduality, or always right here Enlightenment/liberation, even when the visual field arises) said that the Dissolution/cessation experience presupposes time. Before cessation, after cessation. And time is a construct. That vastness/Infinite Reality/"place, non-place" is always right here. "Before" and "after" cessation arises "in" It.
  13. Great Video. Jhana 8 "beyond perception and non-perception" available when the visual field arises, around 13 minutes... "continuously able to see it", or better (if I may): Intuit & realize the Infinite (Absolute), where the mind can't go, while appearances arise... Definitely a new fusion-style-cuisine of the age old Jhana-lingo. Yummy. Buddha meets Nagarjuna once more. Nice. John Churchills "Planetary Dharma" in the making, with all contemporaries having the chance to watch its creation. What wonderous & magnificent times we live in. Now we just need to get Leo back from being a bit you-do-you-annoyed to being passionate again about singing the song of his heart about his courageous Alien-realms-journeys to places no human has gone before, in poetic descriptions (where dry logical words can't convey, the poet can use its art to cast the magic into songs that tell of magnificent Eternity & Infinity). And smile back at the crocodile (when the crocodile smiles at you, sometimes all one can do is smile back) https://www.actualized.org/insights/crocodile-love, and this lovely place gets know the Infinite and also Infinity of Infinities... Relaxing in the River, by the River, for the River
  14. These two disagree a bit: They dont know what appears on the other side of the world. But they know a thing or two about the structure of Reality. form does not differ from emptiness, emptiness does not differ from form. That which is form is emptiness, that which is emptiness form. The same is true of feelings, perceptions, impulses, consciousness. Selling and the mind is no hindrance, without any hindrance no fears exist. By the River
  15. Nonduality is not Enlightenment. That comes way later (at least for most). „With the passage of time one’s thoughts are stilled and one experiences a void like that of a cloudless sky. You must not, however, confuse this with enlightenment. Putting aside logic and reason, question yourself even more intensely in this wise: “Mind is formless, and so right now am I. What, then, is hearing?” Only after your search has permeated every pore and fiber of your being will the empty-space suddenly break asunder and your Face before your parents were born appear. You will feel like one who abruptly awakens from a dream.“ ““Your physical body, composed of the four basic elements, can’t hear or understand this preaching. The empty-space can’t understand this preaching. Then what is it that hears and understands?” Meditate fully and directly on these words. Take hold of this koan as though wielding the jewelsword of the Vajra king. Cut down whatever appears in the mind. When the thoughts of mundane matters arise, cut them off. When notions of Buddhism arise, likewise lop them off. In short, destroy all ideas, whether of realization, of Buddhas, or of devils, and all day long pursue the question “What is it that hears this preaching?” When you have eradicated every conception until only emptiness remains, and then cut through even the emptiness, your mind will burst open and that which hears will manifest itself. Persevere, persevere—never quit halfway—until you reach the point where you feel as though you have risen from the dead. Only then will you be able to wholly resolve the momentous question, “What is it that hears this preaching?” Bassui So what is it that believes that over here is anything not liberated
  16. https://www.actualized.org/forum/search/?&q=leavitt&author=Water by the River
  17. Infinite Being IS the dream appearing "in" Infinite Vastness/Being, which has no outside. Appearance is the "light" of consciousness. Appearance is not substantial or material, just mere appearance (in Tibetan Buddhism then called Clear Light, which it actually is. Lucid and bright and no more solid and dense. That is the case when the illusion of dense/material/solid/dual/out-there-ness is lifted, because it can also appear in such ways). And not "out there", but nondual. There is neither subject nor object (these are illusion-arisings), but only Infinite Being. Hence nondual. Impersonal Nondual Infinite Being. There is no subject hallucinating anything. There is just Infinite Being. THIS. The illusion-arisings of the hallucinating subject (and its necessary illusion-counterpart, the "object") can drop away anytime, restoring the original state of impersonal nondual Infinite Being. The appearances of the "world", thoughts, feelings, the character, any understanding, any concept, states, Awakening, non-Awakening, dream, sleep, deep sleep, waking, any state and anything perceivable just floats/rolls through "this" Impersonal Reality which is always right here. And "this" impersonal Reality only perceives itself. And at some point, understands "itself" and realizes "its" (nondual) nature, and what it has always been. Yet, "it" only ever has been "itself". Who is reading this again? And then replace "it" with... Selling just IT Water by the River to itself
  18. No. When one knows that the nature of every single I-thought/I-feeling/"building-block" of the separate-self-illusion, they arise and evaporate in Infinite Being. Since they are an illusion. They arise, one looks into their nature (Suchness, mere appearance), and they stop/evaporate. That is the essence of Trekchö (Dzogchen). And with that comes the understanding that these arisings were illusions all along, appearing in Infinite Being. So these arisings of the separate-self evaporate (or "burn") in the nature of True Being (which is pure groundless infinite emptiness/vastness in which the world and the separate-self-illusions arise/appear), and are no longer bought into. Then, all of that is just cut off (if nothing needs to be done by the character), or one lets the character do its thing in clarity (technical Mahamudra-term) where the mindfulness (another technical Mahamudra-term) of the nature of the mindstream (thought and feeling-stream) as mere empty (mere appearing) arisings is not broken. In summary: The separate self is seen through because Awareness is strong enough (aka each and any separate-self building block/concept has been seen through) and fast enough (these arisings get very fast, 20+ arisings per seconds or something I would guess before the loop closes) to cut off the illusion in real-time. And then Infinite Being/Infinite Consciousness "can close the loop" and understand itself. And the "understander" of that is another separate-self-illusion, which gets cut off also (Cluster of sensations/thoughts claiming ownership of other clusters of sensations/thoughts/feelings). And then, the Infinite Totality can understand itself. Which is the death of the separate-self, because the illusion is just no longer believed. So Absolute Reality (totally empty nature) burns & kills the separate-self, quite literally. But since that was just an appearing illusion, nothing more than an illusion is lost. And all of that is not a funny idea, a nice story, fancy concepts. It is actually the death of what you thought you were. Sayonara separate-illusion-character, hello Infinite Being. Infinite Being, which was "there" all along, since there is nothing else, but cosplaying as a illusionary separate-something-arising appearing within itself and giving rise to buying-into-that-appearances, aka I-thoughts I-feelings). And one doesn't "overlook" that death of the illusion. And it comes with huge spacious vastness (infinite boundlessness) of Nonduality appearing in Infinite eternal Being/Infinite Consciousness. When each arising in the mindstream and each appearance of the visual field ("world") is seen as mere groundless appearance (empty, mere lucid appearing, not solid, not "out there") happening within ones True Infinite Being, and no stories/concepts are made out of that (since these are just more concept-arisings appearing "within" IT, made of IT/suchness). And on top as the icing on the cake comes huge waves of Sat-Chit-Ananda whenever Infinite Awake Nondual Being is not clouded by the separate-self-illusion-cloud and its contraction. And everything else is just varying degrees of cyclic misery/suffering/contraction/duality, going round in circles in its latest pet-project to release the contraction/suffering of that illusion. With best regards from the separate-self illusion. Bassui in Kapleau, 3 Pillars of Zen: Your Buddha-nature is like the jewel-sword of the Vajara king: whoever touches it is killed.Or is it like a massive, raging fire: everything within reach loses its life. Once you realize your True-nature, all evil bent of mind arising from karma extending over innumerable years past is instantly annihilated, like snow put into a roaring furnace. Letting it burn by the River
  19. Um. No. It burns the remnants of the illusionary separate-self away. Wonderful! And "It" and "the" actually is You. You don't burn You away, just the illusionary "small/separate you".
  20. Joy, bright spark of divinity, Daughter of Elysium, Fire-inspired we tread, Thy Heavenly, thy sanctuary. Thy magic power re-unites All that custom has divided, All men become brothers Under the sway of thy gentle wings Singing along with Friedrich Schiller by the River