Water by the River

“As we said, Zen masters talk about Emptiness all the time! But they have a practice and a methodology (zazen) which allows them to discover the transcendental referent via their own developmental signified, and thus their words (the signifiers) remain grounded in experiential, reproducible, fallibilist criteria.” Ken Wilber, Sex, Ecology, Spirituality: The Spirit of Evolution

Nobody who has ever had Enlightenment/truly woke up would consider Infinite Being/Absolute Reality human. In Leos wording: THAT is so alien and way off the charts (and by definition unexpected) that it literally kills the human. Sayonara, bye bye, was nice with you, but was clearly the illusion "human" (or any other limited identity, like, um, alien) will never ever reassemble itself fully or be truly believed. Character-hangover ok, but truly believed and bought into being human and separate? Like: This is REALLY SERIOUS ... No way. Actually, IT is not even alien. It just is. What it is. And it is just YOU. But definitely not human. Leo, IT contains and manifests/imagines your aliens! How could IT then be human? Of course it is not human Your alien can not be outside of IT! And you are IT! And every being also... Koan: Who are all of Leos aliens again? Guess some are still a bit shell-shocked by the fact of turtles and aliens all the way up. Basking in the sun by the River and smiling at the beings deriving their limited identity from being fascinated by the turtles/waves/aliens (all the way up to Infinity) in the River, which are not realizing their true identities (on a permanent basis) as being the Infinite River because they are too busy wave-surfing on the River. And that continues until it is no more fun, looses its fascination, and the wave drops in the River and dissolves into Infinite Being. Relaxing in the knowledge by the River that this dropping & dissolving can not really be expedited or convinced, but each wave must run out of steam according to its Karmic hangover... For the teutonic fraction among us: "Geduld ist das Schwerste und das Einzige, was zu lernen sich lohnt. Alle Natur, alles Wachstum, aller Friede, alles Gedeihen und Schöne in der Welt beruht auf Geduld, braucht Zeit, braucht Stille, braucht Vertrauen." "Die Welt zu durchschauen, sie zu verachten, mag großer Denker Sache sein. Mir aber liegt einzig daran, die Welt lieben zu können, sie und mich und alle Wesen mit Liebe und Bewunderung und Ehrfurcht betrachten zu können." Hermann Hesse

Nonbeing is not. - Parmenides

Koan: Who is talking to himself always?

Because the Jhanas are not Enlightenment. And the Jhanas are reached easier via hardcore concentrative meditation than Enlightenment. The guys who wrote the books, got the patronage, and spread the word had more Cessation chaps to watch. Btw., there probably was no historic Buddha. More on that in my archive. Selling Buddhist Iconoclasm by the River

Nondual Monism & Nonduality visualized: Koan: Why are you the only game in town?

That was Buddhism 1.0 Buddhism 4.0 and the Boddhisattva admits and commits to her eternal illusion gig.

Bingo. A few aliens fit in easily. Actually, even an Infinity of Alien turtles pyramiding on top of other Alien turtles. Koan: Who imagines all of them? Koan: In whoms Infinite Reality with no outside nor inside… in whoms eternal boundlessness are all these alien-turtle-pyramids appearing? Koan: Who is fooling himself in all her endless illusion holons with these turtle-pyramids? Koan: Who is actually reading these words right now?

And each holon/being/perspective reflects all other holons, since … Oneness, Unity and Infinity. Indras Net. You are always in the middle. Infinity up, Infinity down. infinity. INFINITY. Watching turtles all the way down and all the way up frolicking in the Infinite River

Is there Infinity all the way up and all the way down already in mathematics of this little realm? Yup. So the Infinite Reality that contains this little realm already contains turtles all the way up, and all the way down. An Infinity of parallel realms needs to be managed, created and sustained by an Infinity of turtles (Aliens, Gods, Beings, Holons) all the way up. Imagine it like a pyramid with an infinitely large base. Height? Infinity. There is no top. Infinity in all directions. Quote WbtR and quote Leo. So… realize the Suchness of all of that, and relax… or go turtle on turtle on turtle climbing for INFINITY. Sorry, Infinity. Koan: What is the Suchness of all of that actually? Koan: And what is the end of all of these turtles? What is the actually non existing top of that pyramid which has no top? What is the essence of all these turtles? Who watches all of these Infinities of turtles all the way up and down forever? That is the end my friend. Literally. That is where the bug stops.

Dihydrogenmonoxide my friend. Dihydrogenmonoxide…

I knew that Selling Water by the River was a stupid name. Gotta Hype the Dihydrogenmonoxide more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_parody Selling Dihydrogenmonoxide by the River

Leo walked on mathematical terrain, came up with a half true half false interpretation (that you will live all possible lives). At the same time he says God will never run out of realms to explore. Truth is, and can be proven with Cantors Set Theory of differently sized Infinities and a little bit of logical deduction: God can go on exploring for Infinity the smaller Infinity, and is not exploring all possible lives (larger Infinities), and yet will never run out of lives to explore (the smaller Infinity, which is still... Infinity. To be explored forever. Practical meaning of that: Not all of your Horror Shows/lifes will be experienced. God is not stupid. And yet the show will go on forever. But some Horrow shows are and will be experienced by some perspectives. Tends to clean up some Karma. That can be understand with Cantors Set Theory and its differently sized Infinities. Its not so hard with the specific examples of Infinities Cantor used to deduct his theory. That will answer this point.

It will be different than what you expect it to be. Else, it would have already happened. You will loose nothing in terms of appreciation, splendour, marvel, love and joy. Life truly becomes a celebration, and fear is gone. You will only just loose an illusion that was never true in the first place. And that illusion IS the suffering, IS the contraction, IS the separation.

The "boring" is one of the near perfect tools of Infinite Being to make itself believe as being less than everything. Works like a charm with near 100% success rate and keeps the illusion busy. Boring + grasping for creativity & exploration & alien waaay up on Maslows pyramid, stage 6, transcendence and beyond. The cure: a) an efficient meditation system cutting that off in real time (for example Mahamudra PotgW style), or b) good old traditional face against the wall for a few years and (quite literally) die on the pillow. a) is lovely, b) is hardcore brute force not for the faint-of-hearted. Both work.

Actually, already the Mathematics of this realm proove it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_set

Groundless Ground, and the turtles of manifestation all the way down never reach it... And yet, there is a perfect answer for the Koan on what the Infinite Groundless Ground is... Who is reading this again?

Who or what are the machine elves? Who are you, the one wanting to meet them? Who are you before your parents were born? You can't get there, since you are already there. How fast your mindstream will conform to the quite specific conditions (among them nondual & awakened & boundless & timeless & impersonal) necessary to realize and understand that beyond a shadow of a doubt: Who can know? But in the end you can't avoid it. So have fun along the way. When you are tired of the necessary contraction and suffering that constitutes believing to be a single wave in the ocean & wanting to say hi to more machine elves & aliens, the Infinite Ocean is always there for you to drop in and to dissolve into your boundless infinite and eternal nature. PS: Saying hi to the machine elves & aliens fast and efficiently can speeden up the process of getting tired & satisfied of having done that also. What is better: Aiming directly for dropping into the Infinite Ocean asap., or aiming for meeting the machine elves & aliens & turtles as fast as possible in order to be done with that: No one can tell you, only the intuition of your heart can tell you what your Karma is.

Already in our realm exists mathematical Infinity. And different sets of Infinities (Cantor). Differently sized Infinities. Some larger, some smaller, as weird as that sounds. It can be mathematically proven (see Wikipedia for example). The Reality which contains this already in our realm has to contain also these Infinity of Infinities, since they appear IN our realm already as mathematical objects. And hence, Reality contains the potential (and actuality) for Infinity "upwards", Infinity "downwards". Just look at a fractal zoom. One has to make peace with it: An Infinity of Realms manifested right now, hence upwards complexity to Infinity. And Infinity of complexity also downwards: Good luck trying to find the most fundamental building block of Reality: NEVER. Its perspectives/beings/Holons all the way down, and all the way up. Turtles all the way down, and all the way up. And True Being is Infinite Being: Not finite = Can't measure it. It is not one of these Holons, nor the sum total of all Holons. All of that is just appearance, not the Infinite Absolute. Nor can one say anything positive about it, since "it" is all Reality. Madhyamaka. Can never be pointed to as an object. Its not Infinity of Infinities, these are mathematical objects which can very well be pointed at. There is a huge difference between Infinite and Infinity. A lapse in Leos philosophy confusing these two, with pretty heavy consequences. And since there is an Infinity of Infinities, not all possible realms have to be manifested right now for there to be an Infinity of realms. And God will also never run of Infinities of realms to manifest (An Infinity of Infinities, Cantor). And on top, that doesn't even mean that all possible realms have to be manifested (now or in eternal "future") for God to never run out of a parellel manifestation of an Infinity of realms, continuing for Infinity. That can already be deducted correctly just alone from the mathematics of this realm and extrapolated to the larger Reality containing this realm/Universe. Awe inspiring? Yes. Scary for the separate-self. For sure. Once the separate-self and its need for understanding, survival and what not is transcended & switched off: God will have great fun playing hide and seek, again and again... Lets explore, there is timeless eternity to do exactly that! Just don't get hung up on trying to awaken/understand all the alien islands/turtles. Turtles all the way up, all the way down. Grasping for that understanding/alien whatever is the perfect recipe to spoil the fun. What grasps for understanding and alien islands? Not the Infinite Ocean. Only the illusion of the separate-wave-surfer. If the wave-surfer has dropped in the ocean and dissolved in its Infinite Being, expressing this as being stabilized as in blissful nondual infinite Awakened Awareness, and then goes exploring alien islands in the Infinite Ocean: Great. But if the wave-surfer has not dropped & dissolved in the ocean and does its alien wave-surfing to cope with the suffering/contraction of the separate-self/wave-surfer: Great show, just not om mani padme hum. Neither for the wave-surfer, nor for "others". Like that guy with the Messiah Complex?

I wouldn't say it like that. Understanding doesn't need to be an illusion. It is very real. Understanding the Pythagorean theorem is done by You. Only You can understand. There is nothing else that could do that. Understanding is instantaneous if it happens. "Understanding" one is a separate being is an illusion (and no understanding, but just wrong), because its just not true. Understanding that ones True Being is Infinite Being/Reality (and impersonal) is correct. And so on. Its just that there is an Infinity (of manifestation) to understand. And then there is understanding of ones essence, of impersonal Infinite Being/Infinite Reality, is the most important understanding/realization. It relieves also the urge to understand every details of the Infinity of appearances. God is busy exploring its potential (of an Infinity of Infinities of manifestation/appearance/realms). But there is a critical threshold where "it" understands its essence and Reality.

Sure? If I were you I would start wondering why you are not in a nondual infinite state of mere appearance in daily life sobre. Hint: Remaining not transcended very fast and sneaky appearing separate-self thoughts/feelings/filters/lenses which are not seen through because Awareness is too slow to cut these off real-time. And these separate-self-remnants hypnotize and give bias to all appearing appearance. Btw., not theory, but personal experience. What stands between you and impersonal nondual infinite mere appearance Awakened Awareness is... too much not fast enough seen through/cut off Leo. And through these lenses you filter all your Alien- and facets of Awakening experiences. Trust me on that: You can not anticipate how it is when these finally drop. And all your alien-preferences are the same illusion-filters of... Leo. Sure there are Aliens against we all look like ants! But they have the same essence as "we" have. And then there are Aliens against which the alien of the former sentence look like ants. Forever, turtles upon turtles upon turtles... And there are Aliens that make that alien-Leo-consciousness (of) appear like ants. Turtles upon Turtles, n+1, forever. But have fun climbing that turtles... You go wave surfing, yours truly dissolved in the Infinite Ocean... its a free country I guess. Ok, lets see if Keanu spirit is still among us: "I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves Selling "Have fun" by the River

Sure. But enlightened is even better, and with too much fascination for aliens (or anything at all for that matter), cookies, money, power, fame, sex, whatever Maslow up&down, the wave surfer never gets tired of wave surfing, and never drops&dissolves into the Infinite Ocean. And since the Infinite Ocean is its True Being, cosplaying as alien wave-surfer ends like any wave surfing: Suffering. Self-Contraction. And not Sat-Chit-Ananda of nondual Infinite Being. On the other side, wave-surfing is the raison d'etre of this Samsara show, so who am I to complain? Mumbling along Om Mani Padme Hum by the River & smiling and cheering at the (alien, cookies,money, power, fame, sex, whatever Maslow up&down) kite-surfers appearing on the Infinite River

Ah, where did the pig-headed and arrogant in the post above go? Guess I just imagined that. Well, never mind my friend. I plead guilty on the arrogance and unshakeability of the Absolute Infinite Eternal Reality which never changes (only appears to do so), and which gives birth to all things. And pig-headed: the german native speaker learned a new english word, which can be quite useful the describe phenomena in this lovely little Samsara of ours. I mean, from which "place" "one" can be more arrogant and non-yielding confident than from this lovely piece of real estate of Infinite Reality. I admit guilty on that also. But on the other side "it" gives some nice grounding (in the groundless ground of being with no moving parts, and hence no possible damage possibly occuring), freedom of mind, and a good portion of fearlessness (oh, my present illusion-vehicle transpired - what a pitty. Back to square 1). And on the question if it restores some kind of "ideological" lightness, humour and tolerance, the reader may make up his/her own mind. And of course Sat Chit Ananda. So, yours truly can't really complain. Actualized.org is my favourite "waste of time", so to say. I admit to that also. May all beings be happy. PS: Your Public Relations consultant got better. Always be positive and on the light side. Any being always does what it wants anyway, and the world gotta do what the world gotta do: "I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves

Gestapo? Sprechen Sie deutsch ?! Heaven in Europe is where the English are the policemen the French are the cooks the German are the mechanics the Italians are the lovers and the Swiss organize everything Hell in Europe is where the German are the policemen the English are the cooks the French are the mechanics the Swiss are the lovers and the Italians organize everything

And you confuse the summum bonum of realizing/living/ stabilizing non-dual undivided infinite Absolute Reality without any filters and lenses of separation still left, or in other words Infinite Being, eternal and timeless, with its changing and temporary manifestations and understandings, looking through remaining filters of separation, through which you interpret all these alien appearances/understandings/illusions. What is the essence of Alien consciousness (of)? YOU. Where was your alien before you were born? Do I need to get fascinated by alien turtles upon turtles upon turtles, to Infinity? Or rather, confuse my Being with that fascination? I know that that what you talk about appears. Never doubted that, or "your" aliens. I just don't give it the importance you give to it. What is that importance, ARISING IN YOU? The last remaining filters/lenses of separate-Leo. But don't worry, no one is left behind. Also separate-Leo-illusion not. https://www.actualized.org/insights/crocodile-love Selling crocodile love by the River - and also at the same only the best to relative Leo. May he have fun and rejoice in his explorations, and wake truly up one day to the futility of climbing aliens turtles upon turtles upon turtles, before any crocodile may even smile at him. And then, "he" can continue exploring alien turtles upon turtles upon turtles, but will do it as celebration and not from a perspective of separate-self-Leo-suffering-contraction-lack, but from infinite abudance without any sense of urgency or lack. Or higher or lower. And he will look with the same love at the flower in his garden as to the highest Alien Consciousness (of). And all of that just for fun, because there is nothing else to do. For eternity. Om mani padme hum ) Always right here.