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Thanks! That makes sense! No glaze lol, but I really admire your ability to explain shit well. It's fucking great! Have a good day!

Wilhelm, an accusation of genocide must rest on evidence, not thought experiments. The UN actually has NOT declared this officially as a genocide. Officials within the UN have, but not the body as a whole. Also, please remember that intent still matters. Just because this is a horrific war with thousands of civilians deaths, and just because Gaza is a shell of itself, does not mean it's genocide. That is a mental jump. The legal threshold for genocide is intent to destroy a racial, ethnic or religious group. I told you that my position is not "definitely not genocide" — just that I'm not convinced yet. You asked me to imagine accepting this as a genocide. Fair. I did that. Now I ask you: can you imagine that what's happening, while catastrophic & unjustifiable in many ways, might still fall short of genocide? Wilhelm, genocide is not a term that you can just throw around. It has a specific definition. That being said, as we both mentioned, it does not matter how we label this catastrophe in regard to the real suffering it has caused many, many people. Understand that I am not downplaying the harsh reality of what's happening. But you must provide a well-reasoned argument for why Israel is commiting genocide for me to take you seriously. Saying that Bibi thought: "Fuck it, let's kill them all" is speculative.

1. Suck the Energy on the Outside Inwards instead of projecting the energy on the Inside Outwards 2. Scream in your Mind 3. Become the Room Credit @Hojo for #1 & #2.

Great read! This really helps explain the Jungian psychology of anima & animus. Who even knows if Jung understood it like you do... This is really important stuff. Though I don't really agree with one part, which is that going to the gym & developing physical prowess is purely feminine. Seems to be an example of when both come together??? (Masculine & feminine..) Anyways, doesn't matter. This is awesome insight. Thanks Emerald.

You don't gotta leave your friends and your church and your Christian community to transcend the belief-sysyem that goes along with it. Behold the enlightened churchman!

I went there. It cured my rat-trauma When I went on one trek without lodges in Annapurna (North ABC), me and my German friend slept in a "shelter" (three-walled rock-hut). Middle of butt-fuck nowhere. Night comes. And there are rats in the shelter with us. I hear them scurrying about our midst. I jolt. "Veles!!! THERE'S FUCKING RATS IN HERE MAN!" "Yeah, so what? Go to sleep?" He was indifferent. But I was writhing around, utterly uncomfortable. It was more disturbing than then that time when my ex had the most heinous breakdown on the streets of Jerusalem at 3am. She went bezerk. It was hard. But these rats were another level. I was hysterical. I was horrified. I held onto my friend, Veles. I was crying into his arm. I was so goddamn scared of those rats. After I finally fell asleep for a few minutes, I woke up to one of those bastards gnawing at my hair. Euuuuuggghhh!! My German friend was stoic. He was such a strong man, unperturbed by the rats. Fucking Germans. I did not sleep a wink that night. I sat upright, alert, terrified, on the look out for the rats. They ate a one and half pieces of our roti by the time morning came. He teased me about it for a long time after. I dedicated many pages in my diary to the "Plight of the Rats." However, When I went to the Rat Temple, i resolved my rat-trauma. There were just so many of those nasty fuckers, I realized they were benevolent little creatures. Still, I don't like it when they eat my hair in a three-walled shelter in the shivering cold mountains at night. That will live on as the single most horrific night of my life. Except when the trees tried to kill me when I was tripping off 500ug of LSD when I was 14 years old, running from the cops with my friends in downtown San Francisco. Ahhh, memories!

That's a badass response. #freehuman

The reality IS hard to accept. But what IS that reality? Calling it genocide doesn't do it justice. It is much more evil than that. And more nuanced. At the end of the day, you think that Israel is commiting genocide, so be it. I think that what is happening is a bit more tricky than that. I won't settle for a simple definition. Sir Wilhelm of South Africa, I love you. Leave it there. Arguing is no fun for me.

@Joshe or, from another perspective, we are already in the forth world war, and it's all happening in your mind. Behold the chaos of insanity first-hand. Terroism & very bad things are imminent indeed. But they are not occuring elsewhere, "out in the world." Your Mind is the biggest and only host of terror worldwide.

Whatever is happening, it is not a genocide. It is also not not a genocide. Call it whatever you want. It is just one of the dark alleyways of your mind. Story ends there. I'm done with this thread.

Source?

Dear Sir Wilhelm of South Africa, Genocide has a specific meaning. The UN defines it as acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Hamas — the stated target of Israel’s war — is NOT such a group. It’s a militant, ideological organization, not a race, ethnicity, or religion. If you're eliminating a military threat, that’s brutal war, not necessarily genocide. Another reason is that Israel is not trying to starve Palestinians. Israel has sent more than 1.3 million tons of aid since the war began (more than any other nation has). That doesn't exactly scream "We want to wipe you off the map." Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Is the aid enough? Arguably no. But it shows some level of effort to not commit genocide. You would be hard-pressed to make the case that this is all a show to "save face." Also, this war was triggered, not premeditated. Before Oct 7, Israel was pretty much disengaged from Gaza. Hamas crossed a line with that attack. It was an unprovoked, horrific massacre of civilians. Israel’s military response, whatever you think of it, is rooted in self-defense logic, not extermination. Their goal is stated clearly: eliminate Hamas’s capability to repeat such attacks. If genocide were the goal, Gaza would look a lot more like a parking lot by now. With the firepower Israel has, if their intent were to truly wipe out Palestinians, there would be no hospitals, no aid convoys, no evacuation leaflets, etc. Doesn’t this suggest at least some intent to distinguish between civilians and combatants?

Yup, that's the answer I was looking for. Goodnight.

@Natasha Tori Maru Yes, thank you, no grain of salt neccesary. With your input & anecdotes plus all the scientific studies out there, isn't it just str8 fax that screens screw with sleep? And yet here I am texting you past my bedtime 💀 I think I gotta bash my phone.

You mentioned the bacon thing. We can both smell the same bacon. But only YOU can FEEL the sensation of, say, getting punched in the gut.. I have pondered this too many times. It is such a mindfuck. This duality between you and me, self and other, is one of the trickiest goddamn things, man. I just don't get it!

Everything is appearing out of nothing. Fine. But I have a question. Where does my experience begin and your experience end? I cannot stomach the reality that I am hallucinating you & my mother & all others into existence. This is one of the biggest unresolved conundrums of Mind. (For me)

Hola Princessa, This is fucky territory. I also don't know how it is possible that you exist. And I exist too. You and me, forever and ever? Babe? No? Maybe so? Could it be? And so it is!

It's now about downplaying the reality of what's happening. It's about seeing if it conforms to the definition of genocide.

I made a post earlier that I deleted bc I thought it was stupid but it is kinda related to this topic & I'll try to refrain it in a more subtle way. It was about getting through to people. Especially dense people who are attached to their worldviews & identities. You are never going to convince them of God or whatever you believe. What you can do is get them out of their mind & bring out their shine/humanity by being present & intense with them yourself, so much so that they SEE, "wow, this guy is CONSCIOUS, ALIVE, REAL, AUTHENTIC. At that point, your interaction will either go in the direction of a genuine connection... Or they will get angry & have ego backlash & Behold: you were never meant to interact with such folks in the first place. Instead of trying to change their mind or persuade or convince them in some way, simply seek to connect with them. This is how you will break down their barriers. Intimacy & closeness is a much surer path to God than proof, logic, debate & argumentation.

That was the purpose of this thread: to answer your question. I am open to considering the possibility that it is indeed a genocide. Are you open to considering the possibility that it is not?

I almost shed a tear while reading this. Time to outgrow our old snake skin, my brother. But the cigarettes shall stay!

65 was the best he could do ☠️

I am doubtless.

I don't know.