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It is an interesting one because I have great experience in this area with years of research in to spiritual healing. I understand what @Leo Gurais trying to communicate here becuase there are many fake healers out there but one thing that I am so sure about is that spiritual healing does work whether it is from rituals or prayers because I have seen it and experienced it myself. So the question is, does Leo debunk all sorts of healers or is he talking about a majority that seems to make a living or fame of it.

So I myself have done a lot of psychedelics and even 5 MeO DMT and like @Leo Gura said in his videos, it is almost impossible to have such deep awakenings even if you meditate for 40 years in a cave but guess some people are blessed. This guy got these all inclusive awakenings without doing anything and with no spiritual work. Thought you would love it. It is amazing! I did not have an NDE, but I had two major STEs, or “close encounters with God,” in 1989 and in 1995, when I was 25 and 31. --- First experience, 1989. --- Awakening from a dream In the afternoon of a random day, while sitting on a bench under a large tree in a secluded square of a city center, suddenly and out of the blue I had a strong feeling of awakening, literally as in awakening from sleep. I felt as if I had just awoken, and my whole life before that was but a dream. I also felt that the person experiencing that dream was only a character in a story: transient, ephemeral, and non-substantial; and the “I” that awoke in that moment was not really him. In other words, I awoke into an “I” that was as much more real than him as he is more real than a fictional character in a novel. The astonishing size of space and time Next I became extremely aware of the incredible vastness of both space and time, and my exact position in it. I saw how extremely large the universe is. By “saw” I actually mean “felt with my whole being.” “Mind-boggling” would be an understatement. It felt as if my being expanded to the whole of existence, both spatially and temporally. I felt the incredible vastness of the universe with all its galaxies, and the incredible, immeasurable length of time with all its eons, while at the same time feeling the precise position of the present moment and the place I was at in all that vast space and time. Right here, right now, in all that astonishing vastness. I was on this bench at this square of this city in this country on this continent on this planet in this system in this galaxy of all galaxies and the staggering empty space between them; and in this minute of this hour and day of this month in this year of this century of this era. I strongly felt the particularity of that exact place and moment in the context of the whole universe and its history. Eternal Now Paradoxically, even though I was witnessing the mind-boggling size of time itself, I clearly saw that in fact there is no time. Or, more precisely, that nothing is passing. It exists, but it is standing still, not coming and not going. All of its eons, eras, millennia, centuries, days, and minutes are in fact just one single moment, and it is the only moment there is. It is the very first moment of existence, it never passed, never passes, and the “next moment” never came and never will. One I could also clearly see that everything in that existence is in fact just one thing. Somehow, the infinite multitude of things and beings in existence is an illusion, and everything is in fact some nameless, formless One: single and undivided. And this One is conscious, and it is me. The “I” who awoke from the dream of this life was this One itself. Omnipresent presence At some moment, I strongly felt being seen. I became aware that someone, some person, was quietly watching me sit on this bench and have this mind-boggling experience. But this Person was everywhere, in all points of my visual field. Even though they were invisible, they were in fact more visible than anything else. As if they were hidden not behind or inside, but in front of everything, invisible yet more visible than all that was around me. Father In a heart-stopping moment, I felt that this omnipresent and everlasting Person is my Father. Father in a literal, human sense. My direct parent, who created me. And He was emanating pure bliss. His blissful smile, which was felt, not seen, is like the shine of a thousand suns. Still, even though I strongly felt that the name of this person was Father, there was nothing patriarchal about Him. In fact, the persona He emanated was of an extremely motherly disposition: warm and loving. Hence, I can fully understand that someone else could experience the same Person as Mother, or as a gender-neutral personage. To me, “Father” was simply what I strongly felt, and that is why I call Him that. One with Father The next equally astonishing surprise came soon, when I realized and felt that in fact I am Him. “I am you!” I almost audibly exclaimed, shocked. And perhaps I even did, who knows. And yet, even though we were looking at each other, I felt no paradox in me being Him at the same time, and both of us being one and the same person. After all, I was just fully aware that in reality there is just one thing, which is conscious and therefore also a person, and it is the only person there is. Love I also clearly saw that He is love. Again, literally. He simply is Love, and Love is Him. Love is, so to speak, Father in liquid form; the warmth that we feel in our heart when we see a person or a thing we love, or are doing something we love, that warmth is God, silently flowing through our hearts. It was clear that Love is all there is. Love is literally the material, and the only material, of the universe. There is nothing but Love in the universe; and no one but God, and God and Love are just two names of the same thing, and it is the only thing that exists: The One. And this only thing that exists is also a Person, a person in a very human sense: Father. Maya, the cloud of worries Since at that time in my life my spiritual journey had brought me into eastern spirituality, at one moment I asked Father: “From the literature I understood that the world around us is but an illusion, the Maya. But now I see that everything is actually infinitely more real than I ever imagined!” For that was another aspect of the experience: although this life's narrative is but a dream on some level, everything around me was just so present, far more here and present than it feels inside this dream. Maya is a Sanskrit term for the illusion of the world. To this, Father said: "That’s not Maya. I'll show you what is not real. This is the illusion, this is Maya" and He moved my attention to the multitude of people walking along the alley behind the cathedral which was in front of me at the square. He was very saddened by what He was showing me. I looked, and people were passing on their way to shops, jobs, schools, and homes, each in their own thoughts. And above the people, there was a thick layer of something, stretching in all directions where there were people, starting from a few meters above their heads and being about a dozen or so meters thick. Something ghastly, a floating layer of permanent spasm, a kind of soul-cramp. Like a smoky dark cloud, but I did not physically see it, so it was not literally dark. I somehow felt it from the inside, like a kind of magnetic field. I clearly felt that this cloud is made from worries. It was somehow connected to the people under it, and was feeding off their worrying thoughts and emotions, and feeding them back in a vicious loop. These worries, these imagined futures that worry us, these visualized bad situations in our imagination that put fear in our hearts but we still imagine them, these possibilities that we fear although they have not actually happened, these bad scenarios we churn in our heads; these projections of ours, that is the illusion. It does not exist, because it is only imagined. That is Maya. --- The scene with the Cloud of Worries was the last part of this experience, and as soon as thoughts, more precisely words and thinking in sentences, started reappearing, the feeling was flying away, unstoppably and fast. Within seconds, I was again just myself sitting on a bench, now only remembering the waking state from a dream, just as we usually remember a dream from the waking state. --- Second experience, 1995. --- Intro and context This time, the experience was not wholly spontaneous. I invited it by sitting in meditation during a certain spiritual crisis, determined not to leave the spot until I got any kind of answer from Father about an issue that was bothering me greatly. I was not in fact practicing any form of meditation at the time; I was just very determined that I would rather die sitting and waiting for an answer than continue my life without it. So I sat there in a park on a lake islet for hours, not moving my body or even my eyes, staring at one point and just waiting. After about four or five hours, it suddenly happened. Roaring Silence First, I heard The Silence. I suddenly became aware of some omnipresent and ever-present Silence, inaudible to a normal ear, but actually much more audible and paradoxically louder than all the sounds of the world. It is an absolute, deaf silence, but incredibly loudly silent; there is no other word. Or incredibly silent, but enormously big is another way to describe it. Sounds of the world may be louder than it, but then again the Silence is much larger than the world. It was like suddenly hearing the absolute silence of outer space, beyond the confines of our planet. And yet, just like the invisible Father, this Silence was hidden not behind but in front of all other sounds around me. Only later in life I found out that some eastern schools know of this phenomenon and call it the Roaring Silence. Wall of Light At the same time, this Silence felt like some incredibly and indescribably huge Wall of Light. This Silence is the sound of that Wall. And I saw and knew that this Wall of Light was God himself, in his unimaginable and incomprehensible size. I call it a wall because I had an impression of an infinite and vertical surface of light; that is, God, is endlessly larger than the created world. I clearly saw how the physical universe, the same universe whose seemingly incomprehensible size I witnessed and felt directly six years earlier, was but a tiny dark speck on this immeasurable shining expanse which is God. So much greater is the Creator than his creation, or at least than this physical universe. Playful child who is Father of all beings After a while I suddenly saw Him again in front of me, again invisible yet visible, and everywhere around me at the same time. And again He was smiling with his incredible shine. But smile is actually not a good term for what I saw this time; a giggle is a more accurate description of what I now felt. It was just like a little child having difficulty restraining its laughter with a hand while playing hide-and-seek when spotted by a third person not playing the game. Because I saw that He saw that I see Him, and I could almost see a finger on His lips, and hear a silent “hihihihi, ssshhh!” This time it did not feel as if we did not see Him by our own mistake; it was as if He was almost intentionally hiding from us in a cheerful and merry game. “Ssshhh! You see me now, but don’t tell anyone!” I could almost hear through this incredibly cheerful, shiny smile and giggle and laughter. However, this time I did not explicitly feel that I was Him. And since I knew I was looking at the only person there is, I was puzzled as to who I was then. “Who is seeing you then?” I asked in my heart. Instead of an answer, I was suddenly immersed in a strange vision. Hall of sleepers Namely, I suddenly found myself on the floor of a large hall, waking up from sleep along with many other people. The hall was full of people lying on the floor, many sleeping, some also waking up. Apparently I had been asleep on the floor, and now I was waking up, just like many of the other people around the hall. And the dream that I was waking up from was my life, this life. I remember being so surprised that it was all but a dream. So this time life turned out to be even more of a dream, literally dreamed while I was lying unconscious. Standing next to me was an extremely cheerful little old man, and at the same time somehow standing next to everyone else without being visually multiplied in my memory, that I immediately knew was my father. Actually, I and everyone else was recognizing him from before the sleep. And as we were waking up and rising from the floor, we were all rising directly into his waiting and loving embrace. And remembering our dreams in this waking moment, regardless of them being just dreams, we were all astounded, suddenly realizing how selfish, arrogant, and stupid we were in our dreamed lives, and especially upon seeing and recognizing the all-good Father, we were terribly ashamed of how badly and selfishly we behaved in the dreamed lives. We wanted to apologize and to cry with shame, but the little old man did not even want to start to listen to our self-loathing moans. He already knew everything about it, and He was shutting us up immediately with an indescribably shining smile that was actually barely holding itself from bursting into laughter, because there was some incredibly great and merry thing, or even a joke, that He had on His mind and could not wait to show us. To the still confused and ashamed us, He was saying, "Hush, I know! I know what you did and want to tell me, but don't worry about that! It’s really all okay. Hush, it's not important, come here, look at THIS!" He totally could not wait for us to stop moaning over our shameful lives; He was in a hurry to show us something much more important, something incredible in the other room, or simply outside of this hall. He was calling and escorting us towards the only door in the hall's walls, in a corner. Behind this door was this incredibly great something He wanted to show us, the beautiful something because of which it did not matter how bad we were in our lives, some fantastic surprise that would instantly erase the sorrow and guilt from our hearts, a magnificent thing that is somehow connected to our dreamed-up lives but in some super-special way that none of us dreamers expects. And this something is so glorious, great, and most of all so much fun that He literally has difficulty restraining Himself from bursting into His incredible, endearing, shiny laughter. I did not see what it is. Just before we reached the door, the vision ended and I returned to myself on the lake, sitting stunned and looking at the thin rain falling among the trees. But I sure cannot wait for the day the dearest Father will show me His thing, the God's unimaginably great incredible cosmic joke. Such a mind blowing and amazing read, especially for people that have a long history of spriritual research and work. Love and light to you all.

@Breakingthewall It is so complex to explain it with human langauge because time and space doent even exist in reality. Everything is happening now forever. I think you got the idea of what I am trying to say here. You can choose the buddah way or you can go even further and more advanced.

@Breakingthewall You are the one projecting on that plan that God have for itself because you are thinking from a human perspective. Don`t forget that humans are also Gods so what you experience as a human is a fraction of Gods personality. You are speaking like that because you don`t see the big picture. This is life and there is nothing else to do. Have you watched @Leo Gura episode where he mentions that God have been in that state of Love and self realization for so long for what felt like eternity but it divided itself in infinite ways and created infinite systems because it can and because it is infinintely powerful and that is what LOVE is. It is not a mental illness or an obsession like your lower mind is trying to assume on that behaviour because you are just a weak human right now and don`t have access to the entire information plate. You are also part of this because you agreed to come here and play this game of life. There is a deeper meaning to all of this. To evolve, explore and become God again. It will go on forever because that is what GOD is. Infinitely capable and amazing.

You are both right and wrong at the same time. Every truth and realization of this Universe is equally important because everything is expressing itself infinitely and that is exactly what life is. This physical reality and all other dimensions and every being in this Universe is equally real and important. You seem like you have not realized that life on earth is not the end of this infinite imagination that will go on forever. This imagination is also creation. You will not understand God by sitting like buddists and contemplate emptiness or the light. Why do you think this life on earth and other life forms exists? That is because the LIGHT or GOD needs that to understand itself, what it is capable of and how long it can go and create and at the same time experience all the emotions and reactions. It cannot do that by simply being the light. It is not the same thing. You are missing the entire point. Every realization is infinitly important. Why do you think @Leo Gura keeps exploring and everytime he keeps on getting more conscious and even at extreme levels of awakenings, he keeps moving on and on. If you think that this will stop after death because you rejoin the light then you are dead wrong. The exploration goes on forever and it is all about becoming more conscious and more advanced by understanding how consciousness is working. Your Mind is also the mind of GOD. Sometimes it operates from ego mode and other times from the highest levels and vibrations. The goal is to become a more advanced being the next life and so on and it maybe takes you thousands lifetimes to ascend to another plane of existense that reminds of earth and so on and it goes on forever! Like the person said in his story: “From the literature I understood that the world around us is but an illusion, the Maya. But now I see that everything is actually infinitely more real than I ever imagined!” For that was another aspect of the experience: although this life's narrative is but a dream on some level, everything around me was just so present, far more here and present than it feels inside this dream. Maya is a Sanskrit term for the illusion of the world. To this, Father said: "That’s not Maya. I'll show you what is not real. This is the illusion, this is Maya" and He moved my attention to the multitude of people walking along the alley behind the cathedral which was in front of me at the square. He was very saddened by what He was showing me. I looked, and people were passing on their way to shops, jobs, schools, and homes, each in their own thoughts. And above the people, there was a thick layer of something, stretching in all directions where there were people, starting from a few meters above their heads and being about a dozen or so meters thick. Something ghastly, a floating layer of permanent spasm, a kind of soul-cramp. Like a smoky dark cloud, but I did not physically see it, so it was not literally dark. I somehow felt it from the inside, like a kind of magnetic field. I clearly felt that this cloud is made from worries. It was somehow connected to the people under it, and was feeding off their worrying thoughts and emotions, and feeding them back in a vicious loop. These worries, these imagined futures that worry us, these visualized bad situations in our imagination that put fear in our hearts but we still imagine them, these possibilities that we fear although they have not actually happened, these bad scenarios we churn in our heads; these projections of ours, that is the illusion. It does not exist, because it is only imagined. That is Maya. Point is all these awakenings are equally important.

So I tried the plugging method for the first time in my life, started with around 15 mg and experienced some really interesting experience where my thoughts got a lot clearer. It's like I was watching concsiousness for the first time in very long time and could understand every detail at such amazing depth. I saw the interconnectedness of all and felt this powerful vibration that I love to call it God working through me, solving daily life puzzles. The day after I tried a dosage that looked like 30 mg but oh man... I wasn't ready at all for that one. Just few secondes later I felt this nausea and my heart staryed beating like it was about to explode. I soon realized that I was about to die and feared that I took a little bit too much. My body vibrated so fast that I literally left the human realm and entered absolute reality where I had to feel all of the scariest emotions that really exist. It was like a purification of everything "bad" that I have done in my life as I could feel this nasty energy wanting to come out of my skin and stomach through puking. I had to go through the worst that a human can possibly experience to feel inifinite love. I really prayed to survive and I think I stopped the death process by fighting mentally too hard. Anyways I did experience great levels of awarness afterwards that made me become aware of how careless I have been in my relationships and my health. I really felt dissapointed but also very happy that I grasped it. It's all love and the lack of it is the result of our misery. The only way to become really succeful in life is by connecting to that divine source. So much wisdom and knowledge is hidden by the amnesia we go through in our daily life and that's why spiritual work us so important. There is a lot of bullshit preventing us from reaching our truest selves which is of course GOD like. Anyways back to the question. I know that I didn't go all the way but I want to know, what dosages are safe before it gets too much. I know that with DMT it's almost impossible to go wrong as people have done up to 200 mg but with 5 MeO, I have heard it's a different story. Does anyone have this kind of knowledge as I can't find anything on this except of 25 mg+ for heavy territory. Thanks.

So I haven't done a proper dose 5 MeO DMT in almost two years from the amount of respect I have for this sacred molecule. Last time it changed my life forever and I can still feel the insights that I received back then in my life. Realizing what infinity/GOD really is, isn't something that you really forget easily. It becomes part of you for the rest of your life and identity if you have done it right. Ever since I have worked on becoming more independent creator by clearing my old beliefs and seeking new knowledge. The gifts of wisdom and love is the reward of this type of work which will surely reflect on your quality of life. Anyways this is not why I created this thread so let's get back to the question. I have only tried smoking it but I am now interested on trying plugging it like @Leo Gura. I have tried plugged ketamine so I am conscious of how powerful this method can be. Right now I have freebase version in my possession and I want to get the most of this experience. So how much do you reccomend for a GOD awakening and is freebase good for this type of ingestion method. Thank you!

Hi there. I never asked how to plug, I was more after the dosages that Leo reccomends. The article that you shared dosen't even work. Have a nice day!

Brain is a filter for consciousness ;). Without the brain you would not be a human being at all. Consciousness imagines not only the brain but your physical body too. It's all a dream created by an infinite intelligent being aka God. You have done very good job in creating "evidence" to stay in sleeping mode. You can become conscious of all stuff that are being said here. Read about people leaving their bodies and teleporting between countries on earth and even astral realms. So you don't even need psychedelics to understand this. It's so obvious once you experience it. You will laugh at yourself and think lol how could I be this stupid believing a piece of meat could generate my being. You are an eternal divine being but right now you are just trapped inside of a prison created by scientific conditioning that you believed in. Funny thing is, even science aren't sure how consciousness is generated. Start seeking real knowledge and most importantly of all, be humble.

Look for the other comment OP

Yeah I think he is referring to low quality juices. You can't find this stuff here in europe cause we have so strict regulations!

You are 100% right about this, however I think if you only going to do it a few times then it's alright. Like it can't be more harmful than smoking one cigarette. There also various qualities of vape juice out there but most of the famous brand are okay.

I just want to say how much I appreciate you for existing. Many people here and outside of the forum dosen't understand how deep this stuff goes. You are literally giving out diamonds for free. I had another God awakening yesterday and saw your face "up there" before merging into an infinite God state where all paradigms collapsed. There is only GOD, the rest is an illusion, a play of different energies because what else would God do? So keep focused guys, this stuff is for real and is happening right now. It's not somewhere on a psychedelic experience, it's right here and you can become directly conscious of it. After many purification over the years I have started to integrate these states in to my everyday life and I can tell you that this journey is so worth it. Yes you will face your fears and "dark night of the soul" but trust me you will come out of it much much stronger. Your authentic self is yearning to express itself, waiting for you to heal all of your bullshit and traumas that dosen't make any sense. Move on and realise your infinite magintude. You are not just a human being, you are literally IT. So remove your fears and start following your intuition and you will see miracles manifesting before your eyes. Thanks again @Leo Gura

One of the most profound experiences that I have had doing intensive spiritual work is the realization of telepathic communication. I don't know how many of you have had that yet but I have experienced telepathy with other avatars and it shocked me. I am talking about long conversations where memories and thoughts were exchanged. First time it happend was on a low dose on DMT with my friend. It felt like he was an extension of me, like I was the right hemisphere and he was the left one. We could feel the same feelings and we did not need to talk much because it was all understood intuitively. The second time was the most profound one and it was on 600 mcg of LSD. I felt like my friend was the same consciousness as me and I had access to all of his memories and secrets. I could speak to him through my thoughts and we both understood each other. That was a very intimate feeling and he did also experience the same as I described. Now a year later, I am not really suprised why this could be possible because I realized that I am one with everything. Talking to "others" is just talking to myself. In an infinite high state, you have the possibility to download anything you ever wanted to know. It's all one Mind.

Yes it happens all the time, without it there would be no flow in our conversations. We are always exchanging energies and that's why we avoid some people or conversations becsuse we can feel that bad vibe.

This too

It's possible. What you are describing is telepathy!

I agree with you. I just did it for the sake of exploration and not planning to use it more often than once or twice a year.

This is something that happend to me yesterday that I will never be able to forget. This was one of the most transformational experiences of my life and keep in mind that I have done LSD, Mushrooms, DMT and 5 MeO in high doses. I have had profound spiritual experiences with psychedelics and especially with 5 MeO. For me these experiences are deeply existensial and life changing. I read a few reports about people dying and going to the other side using high doses of ketamine that literally shut off the brain completely. Found this interesting article today on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/hecmsp/researchers_think_a_khole_might_actually_be_the/. Anyways let's get to the report. Keep in mind that my experience isn't really what most people will experience on ketamine and I think that is due to the intensive spiritual work that I have done in the past. I have been experimenting with mind altering substances for years with good integration for the purpose of understanding reality as it is. Also been doing plenty of spiritual work and verifying Leos spiritual content. I started by dividing 600 mg of ketamine into four lines for insufflation. Then I snorted one line every 30 secondes or so for better absorption. After completeing all lines I started to feel my consciosuness expanding in a very intersting way. I could compare this feeling to the comeup of an LSD trip where everything starts to breathe and colors gets more vibrant. After a few minutes I started to lose attachment to my surroundings and things started to feel part of me. It felt like I was my imagining my phone and everything around me. Slowly I got to a level where I couldn't understand who I was anymore and my vision just exploded into infinite geometrical patterns. My ego then started to panic and looking around for any leads to get grounded in the experiences but it was too late. I was long gone! I lost all awareness of my body, I did not know who I was and where I was, and I was this melting intelligent energy. I was pure being in a world of constantly changing patterns and stripes of geometrical patterns. I had no sense of time, whether of past present or future, so I could say I was in a roller-coaster ride in a multidimensional giant fractal for infinity and beyond. This went on and on and on and on and on... This was the scariest place I have ever visited in my life, even worse than than the one I experienced on a high dose of Salvia. I was being killed in an infinite ways and there was no way to understand what was going on. I did not even know what earth was or that I was even a human. All I knew was infinity and pure beingness. This kept on for a good while before I gave up totally and that was the moment where I was transported into the mind of God. I realized that I am the creator of the entire Universe and that everything and everyone is just really me. My memories then started to come back to me and I became conscious that I was creating all of the things/people I thought were seperate from me like my friends and house. I was this powerful pure energy circulating for infinity and a sense of oneness pervaded me. There is no secret to hide or anything to fear because really all is one. How could I be so stupid? I grew up in a religious family where I was told that God is this seperate entity that judges the bad and rewarding the good but in that moment I was literally it. That was a very unbelievable feeling! Everytime I wanted to deny this power, God took me on an infnite journey to show me who I really am until I gave up completely. This was one of the most powerful moments of my entire life. Then I decided to divide myself into different energies (souls) to experience life from different perspective and slowly I started to imagine my hands. It felt like I was watching a hand for the very first time of my life and its was so beautiful. Look at these fingers, what an elegant creation! I then became this entity in a physical body but I was still conscious of what I have just experienced. Life is really crazy and beautiful. Take care of this amazing gift that you gifted yourself. Simply enjoy the ride! You are me and I am you. Seperation is an illusion. Hope you enjoyed this quick report. ?

When it comes to ketamine, I find that this "sticking power" begins at higher doses. I have done ketamine 5 times in my life and most of them were forgotten except for the last one where I went all the way. So upp the dose and see the magic

It can't be understood without high levels of consciousness.

Your energy

I was referring to physical form. I have met entities who were just pure energy.

I have done both with high dosages and I must say that nothing can prepare you for a 5 MeO experience. It's like LSD on steroids!

There are also NDES where people become God. I think this guy is more interested in criticizing Leo than learn.