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The you talking to me now is all I need. You're speaking from a frame of reference developed by you over a lifetime. You built ideas, let some go, accepted new ones, let others go... Imagining you're beyond concepts is still a concept. etc. etc. It's not involved in your experience much, but it manifests in your interactions with me fairly clearly.

I agree. I've just seen too many people fall off into the depths of madness, homelessness, isolation and worse from bringing in ideas they weren't ready for. I don't agree with lying to people, but I do believe it happened out of fear and for a reason (even if I disagree). It's an observation.

I wanted to engage in this initially, but not so much anymore. You're here asking strangers the question, so decide for yourself.

Redacted. I'd just say that I learned it's important to tread carefully in our life and with the people we interact with. Especially the ideas we entertain and propagate... I live my life more like the video below these days.

These are low level experiences too. Usually 10-30x concentrate. My being unified with the river and I watched it fade away. Another time I fell down to the ground and couldn't move. An instant later my body had become the new home for a circus (I could perceive and see it without looking) and there were hundreds of little fellows operating independently within me and on top of me. When the high faded, they faded. 80x was reality shattering. Ego shattering.

I've done a ton of Salvia. Was my first psychedelic aside from weed and I've experienced the ride of up to 80x concentration. Both hilarious and terrifying... And ego shattering... I'm not sure where to draw the line on that one. Somebody here can relate. PTSD inducing and life changing. And...Humbling? Maybe.

Not sure it's something to admire... hehe. I'm having a hard time understanding what you mean by "I have already fulfilled! now you go, you will see, it is very funny". Are you saying you don't need to seek anymore so you wouldn't need/want to try again? Not doubting you, just clarifying.

@Breakingthewall I likened her vibe to Kali as well. A "you fuck, you woke me up, I will ruin you if you fuck with me, leave me alone." Then again, I've done 10-80x many times... Feels like I wanted to call her out on the challenge. Yikes. I'm one of those idiots that just keeps getting back up in a fight .

Is there a trip report/analysis of @Leo Gura having a high concentrate Salvia experience?

Convinced me that my entire life was a lie/misunderstood experience, that the people I know aren't who I think they are and that reality isn't what it seems. Cliffhanger of non-existence or being at the center of a grand joke/conspiracy. I was totally grounded and caught up in my life at the time so these thoughts weren't easy to understand. I had to convince myself after the fact that what I thought I learned wasn't real because it was absolutely traumatizing to my young self... I basically blacked out for 10-15 mins and woke up screaming with my face buried in the couch. When I started to calm down and open my eyes, reality was basically draining into a line across my vision. Everything was normal, it was just seemingly folding it on itself in front of me and it felt like it was pulling me into it. It was like gravity pulling me into this distortion in reality (very physical feeling) I had a faint memory of waking up on a bed with friends near me that told me what was going on... But they looked very cliche alien to me. Then I awoke on a couch with other friends. There was another time (20x concentrate) where my body turned into a circus and there were all these little entities moving about within it as thought it was completely normal. Funny to reflect on those experiences with my current worldview.

80x Salvia concentrate told me some direct truth before I was ready and I didn't believe it and didn't understand. It was traumatizing and terrifying. Not for the faint of heart/mind. Easily the strongest and most forceful psychedelic that I've encountered. She sassy.

Do you call soup, soup? Or do you give/respect each unique variation of soups name so you're able to remember the unique flavors? Or are you the type that says "soup doesn't actually exist."?

Blah. It's a fun exercise but if you try you can relate to all Gods.

Semantics, yo. Enjoy sparring with your thoughts. That being said, I'm invasive and strong willed. I fucking love your exercise "Strip away all sensory input... Just imagine removing reality out of existence .. Toss . Spot the now in the middle of it all. Find it. Identify as that. Or recognize that you are that and not anything else because there isn't anything else. Recognize that you are that moveless point. And it's not going to die ever. Because ever is now." That immortal awareness typed up this message using human wetware. When are you going to just go full nucleus on us?

I read a book that said something like: In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Words convey ideas, right? And words are just ideas taken form, right? Thank you for noticing ?

Let’s rendezvous at the end of time and see if this theory stands ? Freedom isn’t free ?

I mended the relationships around me and did not abandon them. I started to and quickly realized my trap... Be the change you want to see, lay it on them softly my friend.

You're showing God that you don't truly appreciate your family and friends and find yourself above them. This is my harsh perspective - not true for you, but you might learn something from it. It tells us that the "you" they have come to know and love isn't actually you - so who is making this happen here? Are you just finally finding the courage to embrace your true values? If they don't fit, then do your best to make the transition as painless as possible... But you'll have to accept everyone eventually, so why not try with your own peers? Now of course they would be removed from your life and replaced with something that fits better. You're always being heard and you shaped this event with your thoughts and actions. Whatever you do, just remember that this is your making. You're being a judgy shit just like they are (assuming you can see the bigger picture of this life event). You can imagine how you would react to someone going through this shift yourself all you want, but you don't know. Show them some empathy. Sorry for being a dick. But I sure wish someone would have laid it on me directly when I went through it. You might regret your behavior and apathy during this time and it will hurt bad... If you don't, you've only solidified my point. Cheers. This is projection of my own story, but there's value here if you look for it earnestly. This experience will be a fading memory one day - give it the love it deserves - YOU built those relationships.

1. Awareness = experience/observation. Going a step further would be what you have experienced (knowledge/wisdom) influencing how you experience now. 2. It just means you shouldn't be thinking about your ass. It should just be a sensation eventually. Try forgetting that this world even exists. Focus on the awareness you have sitting on the black canvas behind your eyelids (meditate in the dark and forget everything but that awareness). Eventually you might see that without all of this stuff you see out here, you're just this awareness. Is that awareness a product of the body or the environment? Is it just the eyes viewing the absence of light? Is it there without the body? Is it there without the matter of this universe? This awareness doesn't feel like matter. I'm still wondering. Intuition says it's either the energy that is created by our bodies processes (catalyst for our arrival) or it is just what it is abstract to what's happening here (the illusion that it would be the sum of its parts). All I can say is that once I'm that awareness in the dark, sensation just becomes distortions in space that make me feel something. Very odd perspective to "feel" from. If you stay here long enough, you might black out and create another reality entirely. (Just like in sleep(dreaming)) The only things that seem exist in that state are 1. Your awareness of a presence 2. A voice that can speak 3. Seemingly infinite space or a flat screen without any light or color 3. You're just quieting down your thoughts so you can focus more of your awareness on what you're doing rather than thinking. Sensation is more enjoyable than thoughts of sensations for most of us. This is my perspective as of this point in time. Another way of viewing this is "What is my position respective to the universe with nothing to use as a focal point?" - No matter means no focal point. Just you. In front of or floating on/in a visibly blank canvas.

What if it's just like this?

Hey All, I'm not well versed on the topic of Mahasamahdi but I intuitively seem to grasp it, whether or not I'm just lying to myself. The conceptual understanding is there. I'm not diving into the details in exactly what I see, just that it's a reflection of a described phenomena. I bring to you today what I view as an example of Mahasamahdi as showcased in the movie "Lucy". They say a picture is worth X words - a video must be worth XX words. If you know any other examples, please share, it's really cool to see other perspectives. Lucy accidentally ingests an unreal amount of psychedelic drugs during a smuggling run and proceeds to awaken to parts of her intellect previously unimagined, leading to what appears to be Mahasamahdi in Hollywood fashion. To me, the entire scene is a showcasing of what many of you have already experienced behind closed lids. The intuitive knowledge of various concepts and understandings about "us" and the drive to share what you have learned. Psychedelic explorers this is for you. (The end of the clip is wicked) 100% Brain Usage Scene From Lucy I hope some of you enjoy the imagery like I did. Edit - BONUS CLIP - This one is for the people who were totally shook after a "peak" experience. I can feel everything

Yes! Yes, mainly because the level of self awareness directly influences your likelihood to comprehend and process how your "wrongs" "actions" have affected others on their journey to self. Idk about anyone else here, but guilt, shame and anxiety are big deals for me when I have done something that goes against what I intuitively believe to be my values. I could choose to transcend them, but they are a good compass for my interactions with this reality - these characters have been known to get violent if they're not treated appropriately. We've all heard the phrase "You knew/know better". @lmfao This concept I'm referring to is in relation to Hawkins observations.

Manage the psychosis that comes with the higher perspective better. You seem to have the same problem as me - telling instead of guiding (or conversing) and it comes off as the stone faced guru arrogantly hiding behind a wall of psychosis. Do you zone out when writing these things sometimes... Maybe it feels like “channeling” the depths. When you “tell” me that all is illusory, I immediately recognize your truths and choose to transcend the need to spend time squabbling about the details. The truths remain regardless of our conversation and my ability to articulate your mental imagery. Tell me a story if you want to make the learning more enjoyable for this dreamer. After a while, we seem to return to presence, far beyond these insights. The insights remain. Words confuse. Yet we keep pushing forward. Keep your candle lit and smile more often. We can always smile more often ? When I wake up, I go back to sleep and inform the other dreamers of my insights. I care about them. They’re just like me. I don’t have the high ground - I choose to push them forward rather than pull them. What’s your favorite book?

Do I need to say anything else? ok, I will Wake up and kick out the narcissistic doppelganger. Or give it a sedative. Having awareness of a process does not make that process beholden to the individual will. Rather, the individual becomes beholden to the process. The illusions you garner about creation are just concepts... Concepts stacked on concepts, stuffed into other concepts and then tied vigorously to more concepts and images. If it is truly God, prove it. The finger does not command the body, hence the finger is not an omnipotent (all of reality and creative potential) God. Merely a product of it or a cluster of it's "pixels" for a lack of concise terminology. And for what it's worth, beyond what is, what the fuck do you participants even think God is? The product of an emotional sequence? Only Love? If you have confidence in what God is, please share - you'll likely kill me on the spot. Leo is a stand-in Zen devil (this is a joke...) and he already knows it, might have a great laugh and then return to devilry or protect worldly credibility. His polarized view through the lens of God has convinced him otherwise. (observational opinion - this isn't really fair and I'm just trying to illustrate that some peak experiences show us things but we just don't abide in them) Thoughts? I suspect I'm a Zen devil as well... Enjoy desecrating the ground I stand on with this post.

@Moksha You've left a sign post in the road here for future travelers & explorers with this message. It points to the path. And you've opened my eye just a bit wider than it was before. You're awesome. I'm going to revisit the Gita now - every visit brings new insight. It is both near and far, both within and without every creature; it moves and is unmoving. In its subtlety it is beyond comprehension. It is invisible, yet appears divided in separate creatures. Know it to be the creator, the preserver, and the destroyer. Dwelling in every heart, it is beyond darkness. It is called the light of the lights, the object and goal of knowledge, and knowledge itself. —The Bhagavad Gita Big gratitude to Big G for this creation, big gratitude to little g for sticking around and enjoying the ride - the show wouldn't be the same without you.