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@Leo Gura, I also don't want to complicate things. I have been using a glass oil burner pipe. It seems you were referring to the smoking method. Sorry for the confusion. I thought you referring to the human body, because I superficially read your post.

Religion, as I see it, was never actually about making people awaken. It has been about making people adhere to a set of moral codes, which was believed to be a shortcut to awakening. If all you were taught is to adhere to a certain set of rules in order to be spiritual, then those rules will seem absolute to you, which is what prevents religious people from deconstructing their beliefs. It is delusion and it makes the process way less immediate than it already is. What makes this so tragic is that religious people are so humbly arrogant about it. If religious people truly deconstructed their beliefs, they would have no reason to stay religious, except for fear of being ostracized.

That's the attitude! And if you have some time and energy, and if finding the equipment and the materials don't become too complicated, then you can extract some DMT. It's really worth it. The extraction process is really rewarding.

Aren't they illegal in India?

I haven't said I don't want to know. However, there seems to be a never-ending mystery. It would be wise of you to take psychedelics, then talk. Your macho attitude will melt away.

All I can say for now is that after a few mild experiences, I remain amazed at the existence of anything. It brings tears to my eyes.

@Leo Gura, is that a thing I need to worry about?

That is a literal hell for me. Way too much unconsciousness.

Hasan is on fire!

I think it is better to consider multiple options for oneself rather than assuming the military is the solution for your lack of responsibility when you do not even understand the consequences of joining the military. Yeah, people can find value in the military. People can also find value in religion. Imagine that someone tells you that they want to join a religious community because they feel lonely and want to be with others but don't put in an effort to find others to communicate with.

@Basman, the AI is doing some trashy analysis on Guy C.

Understood. Sure.

@Leo Gura, I think you just gave away one of the answers in the above post on what differentiates fake from real spirituality.

@Basman, this is not the same thing as education. The OP has many problems and responsibilities, and he finds it hard to commit to them. Learning responsibility should have been before joining the military. The military is about learning how to survive in war-like situations. If you do that only to learn to be responsible, then you already failed. The OP's intention is not good enough to join the military. He either has to go to therapy or contemplate his issues and work on himself. Of course, if you aren't working on yourself, then automatically the military might help you. But if you have a brain, then it is unnecessary in this case. Joining the military has to be more than wanting to have structure. You have to love the military lifestyle, or there is a genuine need for defending, so you train for that. Also, you have to factor in that he does not live in a Scandinavian country. He lives in India.

That's why no one should casually join it unless it is involuntary. Joining the military should be first and foremost treated as a need and not as a way to grow up as a person unless you love the military lifestyle. Training to survive in harsh or war-like conditions wouldn't necessarily make you mature, although it can sober you up, but that's it. Life is already full of responsibilities, which may be necessary or unnecessary, and you can make yourself more responsible if you think you lack responsibility. Actually, by joining the military, you are giving away your responsibility to consciously make yourself more responsible if you feel you can't do it yourself. In this case, the intention mentioned is not a good enough reason to join the military.

Debating stuff doesn't make people open-minded automatically. It is not a good enough method for truth-seeking because people mostly debate to convince others why their beliefs are true. There are few religious people that are intellectual; however, they still deceive themselves in more sophisticated ways to cling to their religion. I'm not specifically talking about extremists. I'm being critical of the mindset that all religious people have. Religion is supposed to be a method of delivery, albeit a very bad one, and not about realizing some truth, which is the fundamental confusion among religious people that makes them believe that their religion is absolute. Yes, New Age people are similar to religious people in some ways. However, there are structural differences in how they perceive reality. E.g., New Age people don't cling to the mythology of one religion. They may cling to many because they're more open-minded. I'm for organizing people in such a way that it doesn't become a religion, and I would throw out the spiritual language as it's being used to effectively deceive oneself because of how spiritual words are interpreted.

@zazen, the constructs you mentioned aren't equal in terms of making people conscious. Religion is such a low-intelligence construct, i.e., it's very limiting and conformist, that the epistemically blind cling to it and makes them believe that they are thinking for themselves and making decisions based on their own understanding, and if those people ever understood that, they would feel disillusioned and probably would get depressed because of how stupidly unconscious it has been for many years. If you value truth and independent thinking, why would you want to follow a religion? Yeah, you can understand religion, but that is not the same as following it. It is like understanding criminal behavior. Understanding religion wouldn't make religions right by default, but following them requires you to believe that they are absolutely right without a doubt, and questioning them is not admired; otherwise, it makes no sense to follow them because they are constructed that way. Following a religion is like using a shitty food delivery service that is always given five stars by the users. Being a religious person requires your surrender of the things I mentioned in my above post, and you should also defend your religion because following multiple religions is essentially against being religious. Religions completely ignore that they are surviving with a very conformist attitude, and with spiritual language, religious people try to justify its survival and make claims based on beliefs as they believe that beliefs should not be questioned and that they are seeking truth, which deceives them.

It's really about how conscious you are. Following a religion will make you less conscious because you surrender your authority over your most decision-making, independent thinking, and desire to gain understanding, especially about what reality is, to other humans. There is little to no consciousness in conformity. If by "perfect" you mean "truthful", then that person cannot ignore the unconsciousness of religion.

I think that such distinction is pointless to understand why it is bad for your body. They are just alkaloids.

If a person is religious or still clings to a religion, they are epistemically blind. Though I would like to think that enlightened people aren't religious, but who knows?

I know. I'm talking from experience. Read the above carefully.

They are. You are wrong.

You didn't understand what I said. Your reaction is very telling.

I'm jealous. I couldn't even get my spore syringe from the customs because they didn't understand what it was and wanted a phytosanitary certificate. I can only get spore prints, and somehow the customs didn't care about it. I have to start from scratch.

They take epistemological blindness to a whole new level — and they are proud of it.