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Im not here to assure, that my morals are correct. As if morals as something objective to be found out there. For example: I want to know how Leo's take "that every humans behavior is sourced to maximize love" fits in this whole scenario. How is Putins behavior explained within "maximum love" and "spiral dynamics"?

@hello1234 I don't want Leo to be a news journalist. Thats not what he is valued for. Rather I'm interested how he explains the decisions of Putin in the bigger picture. Maybe this whole situation is a massive ego backlash from Russia in some sense. For example, in one post he made the example how the US would behave, if Russia would arrange an alliance with Mexico. With the possibility to have atomic weapons right at the US border. Do you think Biden would be any less cruel than Putin? The point is, i'm not interested in the content as who is false and who is right. I'm interested in the structure of how such political crises develop.

It's like one of those brilliant adventure game, where you can interact and talk to others, and get interesting dialogues through that. You are a lucky boy to be part of this adventure game here, with infinite others and interactions to experience. Every computer game is pure solipsism, but you never complain about existential fear. Feel the fear. Without it, this game would be far too easy.

Why do you think that? If God went all those lengths to imagine others "physically", you can be damn sure he imagines a vivid "inner" life to them as well. Try it out. Go to some "empty suit" and ask him/her, how life is going. What the struggles and successes are. You will be surprised how full this dream is for you.

So as I've figured out my life purpose about combining physical development with mental development via strength training and mindfulness, I wondered if some of you guys already know such a place. Here in Germany there are literally zero places where you can have both. Strength training with weights and racks, while simultaneously offering Yoga classes and space for meditation periods. So this is an open request specifically targeted to any of you, who live in the US. It's an open secret that most new concepts get developed and tested out in the USA, before they spread around the globe. Please let me know if you have encountered such a holistic approach to fitness and mindfulness.

Yes im currently working on building a place like that. Would be awesome to see such a place in action somewhere. In my worldview the logical step of a classical stage orange "gym bro" is to move on to a more holistic "mind body connection conscious" athlete. This happens naturally if "gym bros" get hurt and therefor feel their body the first time under pain. This kicks starts this mind body connection for most. And yes its true that most yoga classes are filled with mid 40 women and most gyms are filled with mid 20-30 guys. However, I see the possibility that both groups will recognize the potential of the other developmental activity if consciousness rises collectively.

Leo should make a poll to ban all discussion about solipsism on this forum. The amount of mental masturbation is incredible.

In some famous book was it written (forgot the name of the author though): "Kingdom of heaven is at hand" Which, translated into Eckhart Tolle words means: The inner feeling of joyfulness, liveliness, creativity and bliss is all contained in the here and now, if you accept it completely. Scary thing to do that. It might involve killing your ego, which feasts itself from ideas about how this here and now "should" be.

A strong ego is total identification with illusion. Good examples are sport fans. Notice how identified hardcore sport fans can be. Anger, frustration, envy, as well as joy, ecstasy and the feeling of belonging to something are all product of an imaginary "club". Everything about a sports club is an illusion. A sports club is not a thing out there to be found. It's just the believe that colors, songs, names, values make a real thing. Simple, yet effective trick.

First of all I want to show a deep level of gratitude towards all the amazing videos packed with insights and deep understanding you have present us with. Sometimes it was just mental sex (fantastic sex after all ), but most of the times this work has really helped to me achieve and see new light in life. Thank you Leo. So here’s my final all or nothing objection, that completely constructs or deconstructs materialism or solipsism, depending how it gets answered. I want to challenge your chain of metaphysical connections of God, which gets usually laid out like this. Presented as a dialogue between me and Leo. Leo: You are God. Heres why -> There is nothing but your awareness Me: true, I can see that right now Leo: Everything, that has ever happened, including people talking about their own „happening bubbles“ happens inside your awareness Me: yes, it is verifiable right now Leo: Therefor, your own bubble of sensation is the only thing, that exist. Also known as the Universe. -> And the ultimate proof of you being God and One, is that you are infinite -> Every other God or meta God has to be insight of infinity Me: Yes, that’s technically true, but since I cannot see infinity right now, its just an assumption at this moment So this whole chain depends on the fact that your consciousness is currently finite, but actually is infinite. And than you recommend „take psychedelics to check this fact by yourself, no need to believe me“ And that’s the point, where I want to step in: What if your experience of infinity, just appears to be infinite? Maybe its enormously huge and enormously growing to appear infinite, but not actually infinity. Speaking from a materialistic paradigm: What if your neurological capacity, which is needed for everyday consciousness is so small, that a huge increase in neurological capacity via psychedelics results in the experience of „oh wow this has to be infinity“. After all, how can you be sure, that you experienced infinity. Because the possibility of „experiencing infinity, without actually having infinity“ works completely fine under the materialistic paradigm. Now, you gonna say: „Well, clearly you have not experienced infinity“. But even if I filly myself up with a pound of 5-meo-DMT, how can I be sure this experience was absolutely infinite? How can I be sure, it just didn't APPEARED to be infinite? How can you be absolutely sure Leo? Namaste, thanks for reading

@Bow24 @Judy2 @Leo Gura Alright. Enough of this mental zigzag. Lots of work ahead. I hope we will laugh together one day

Session Eight: 35 minutes. Peace. Stillness. Today I was filled with doubt about God and Oneness. Little glimpses of God structure gave these doubts a little slap with the back hand No deep and clear memory flashbacks this time. But had many interesting ideas and plans what to do with this wonderful moment. Ideas were mostly about food like to prepare and stuff I want to do in the gym. Sounds petty, but thats what makes enjoyable for me right now. Happiness. At the end I "dropped" under my perception of reality and felt this surrounding nothingness in and around me. Reality was just this thing in front of me, which is contained in nothingness.

This resonates well with my understanding of God realization. I've experienced it four times, with LSD (with up to 1000μg). There was absolutely no speck of a doubt, that I'am God. Every "other" merged into this singular ungraspable point of stillness and Love. Unbelievable, shocking, ecstatic. In face of such mind devastating realization I was quick to say that had to be infinity. But now I'am sitting here, contemplating how I can be so sure about this conclusion. And I don't find anything satisfying in being skeptic. I just want to be absolutely sure about how I see reality.

@Judy2 For me its absolutely clear, that everything is just consciousness. That the ego is an illusion, that this experience right now is the only thing that has and will ever happen. However, all these insights can be explained with finite consciousness. Don't forget, finitude can be arbitrary large. Everything that has every happened to you can be inside of a finite frame. Yet, Leo claims absolute, undoubtable INFINITY INFINITY INFINITY (TIMES INFINITY) !!! is the necessary for solipsism and Oneness to work. I don't see how "Not knowing" will help me with that questions.

@Judy2 I don't see how this relates to finite consciousness or infinite consciousness. Realizing No-Self/Nothingness can still perfectly be explained in the materialistic paradigm. Infinity cant, hence the post above.

Exactly. Still, the question remains, is Oneness/Infinity actually to be found in reality or is it just a ungraspable huge, yet finite thing with the label "infinity" on it. Hopefully, you see my problem now.

The ultimate "end to all solipsism questions" video is his "Guided Exercise For Realizing You Are God" video.

10 minutes before the video got taken down, there were only positive comments. Most people, who watch his videos so early are subscribers, who are fine with Leos teachings. Besides that, when did Leo ever take a video down because of rude comments? If anything, his "outrageous experiment in consciousness" video would be the first one to delete after that logic.

Have watched over two hours of it. Nothing fundamentally new has been said. Maybe there was a big outrageous claim at the end. But I really doubt it gets more outrageous, than YOU ARE GOD.

Your content about God realization was at least as radical as this episode. Why take it down then?

We leave the topic of this thread here, but yes the Kardashians and catholic church deserve every penny they get. Just because we can't appreciate their value, doesn't mean they have none for some. For a fundamental christian the church offers so much value. I'm to lazy to think about a fitting example for the Kardashians, but the structure stays the same. And Eckhart Tolle has massive value for a conscious developing humanity.

He associated so much suffering with his old name "Leonard Ulrich Tolle", that he wanted to change it. In a dream he was called Eckhart. And as woman called him Eckhart in real life, because she intuited that would be his name, he decide to change that.

You sure have developed a strong "interpretation muscle" Money is just a signal how valuable he is for humanity. People are not recommending his work by accident.

Eckhart is open about psychedelics. He openly spoke about taking LSD, to get a perspective on "psychedelic awakened people". However, he didn't recommend it. Being aware is enough for him.

If I remember correctly, he chose to live on a park bench for two years after that. Seems like something happened.