Natasha Tori Maru

First mistake - you didn't know anything before knowing the concept of Jesus. A belief isn't truth. I don't mind the topics - but dude ,why are you trying to insert Jesus into every post. I am assuming you believe the afterlife is paradise only? No mention of hell. You were just talking about hell and how you dream about being a devil, torturing devils. Others are allowed to have different experiences of truth, even if it might not be correct. As long as they aren't following a belief and have direct experience - like your own experience of Jesus you keep repeating. But posting on these forums will always lead to experience and belief being questioned

Thanks for the share - interesting watch. I have noticed a proliferation of people I know going from Christian (born into it, no choice) > New Age > Christian. Some are just New Age > Christian. You see it on forums, real life, cults - tons of my family. In every case there is personal trauma / attachment issues / negative energy or mindset taken through the journey. The movement into New Age / Spirituality is done to try to 'heal' but the new age movement can tend toward bypassing and toxic positivity when trying to heal issues a good psychologist can attend to. So these individuals are taking their unhealed negativity and trauma to a belief system in the hopes it will 'fix' them. Then, when the beliefs they adopt don't work - they cast them off for a new set of beliefs. All the time carrying their trauma with them. And they turn on their old beliefs and demonise them. Not realising it was them doing it to themselves. 'New age is evil' And instead of looking to themselves and realising THEY are responsible for healing and wholeness (we are whole to begin with, these people do not realise it) they outsource it so they do not have to be responsible when some external element doesn't work. So an easy scapegoat to discard a concept and do away with the self hit of being 'wrong' ie ascribing to the 'wrong' beliefs. You can tell when someone is following this pattern because there is an intense emotional zealotry with proclaiming they have 'found healing' through their selected path. And a large propensity to want to push this onto others (there are many who do not push it onto others as well, but the proclamations and need to push speak to how desperately they wanted something to heal them). The self is happy it is correct again and wants others to see this. But this is hidden behind a 'desire for others to heal as well' and 'love'. But it is another form of attachment and outsourcing of sovereignty. There can even be a staunch refusal to admit not everyone needs the same things. Some people don't have trauma and don't feel this compulsion to be 'saved' and realise they have power within them. The whole time they carry their trauma and emotional negativity from one belief into the next, never addressing the real source (themselves, which they cannot admit they are doing as it would smash their ego to realise they generate their suffering). The elation and zeal is due to thinking themselves saved/healed/rescued and the ego's jubilation to have found the 'correct' belief. But they are the common factor... The flaw in the whole thing? We are all whole to begin with. We have all we need. We are the sky - open and pure - and just have to realise there are some clouds temporarily obscuring it. You (so to speak) just need to lift the clouds to reveal the sunlight that was always there. Blow away the clouds of belief to reveal the sun.

People read anything and trust it - especially the older generations who were used to proper journalism and vetting. Social media plays into this. Flood the zone with SHIT so people have no idea what is true and what isn't. It appeals to how they FEEL. And by hijacking peoples emotions like that you gain leverage to slowly boil their brains with insidious views. 90% of my family in 50+ age are all in support of Trump and what he is doing 'for' America. Australian BTW Disturbing is an understatement!

Going for a walk to the shops, no phone, no headphones, no devices. Just cash. Analogue style Fasting @UnbornTao this - you realise how much of your thoughts are devoted to food - the planning, the eating, the preparing, what to have, the shopping.... When I fast for 36hrs my mind is so free!

Try to directly address the questions without religious platitudes. You didn't answer anything or try to contemplate.

I do think if you are older or do not eat a lot of meat in your diet you will notice greater effects I am hoping some of the other users here have experimented with it - mostly because I didn't expect the effects

I had access to firearms on the farm I frequented as a kiddo even in Australia. But I don't think 'It's the culture' is a good argument.

The insufficient storage is insufficient-ing The en-shitification of business buyouts is... en-shitefying

Fucken PREACH. This

Gun control worked in Australia following Port Arthur - but I understand most Americans do not want to hear this argument. I personally feel gun laws should be tightened in America. Responsibility to handle firearms should be demonstrably proven.

Um, how do you know that wasn't the voice of God - that sounds like the devil... I think there is a genuine possibility you are putting your own concept onto an experience, corrupting it... Also doesn't YOU torturing demons make you a demon in your mind? That is what demons do...

@Dodo Always 😂 People want to feel and have power/dominion so desperately, they will chase any way to do so.

And what were your immediate perceptions and seeings of it as a child? Before you understood what it was - which you must admit you obtained later

If you never knew of this concept of hell or the devil - do you think you would have interpretated this experience the same? It would be difficult to say you didn't use concepts already in the mind to interpret the seeing with meaning. Attributing meaning where there is none is a common issue that can lead to a lot of internal discordance and mental distress

@lostingenosmaze Do you know what the self is? It might be of assistance to define what you know/believe. Sometimes information can be presented that banks on certain foundational knowledge.

It would be interesting to hear it as break down to fundamentals Breakingthewall expressed the opinion that perception was the same as awareness. I personally disagreed there, but maybe this ties to that?

@Jacob Morres NGL I thought this was a LARP as well .... But I only suspected it due to the lack of tangible real word examples, lessons and application in the replies. I would expect more detail - but hey - that could be my own expectations shooting me in the foot

Halp

You cannot see the common elements there?

You can still make solid points and have a whole bunch of BS in between. This paragraph doesn't refute that. It is more - you wouldn't recommend some individuals on principal due to other sources being more accurate/grounded/trustworthy - AND not requiring you to waste effort sorting the wheat from the chaff. That doesn't dismiss the fact that the cases above can be excellent studies in our ability to assess and perceive truth and integrity.

Using the whirlpool analogy above you could also say: Absolute - Truth (water) is primary Relative - Whirlpool is the way the truth shows itself

@Oppositionless This is alluding to the subject-object portion of our life we are consumed with. You are the subject - the object being whatever you are witnessing (thing, thought, perception). If you remove the object from the above - you are left with just you. The subject. With nothing to focus or fixate on. Just pure awareness. Where you exist in a state of being. We call this 'empty', but all words act to simply point at what awareness is without an object to focus on. So in dreamless sleep - deep sleep - there is just this... awareness (you) with no object. This might lead to the next question - can the truth exist if we are not aware of it? All of reality arises within consciousness, or Truth arises prior to even consciousness - truth requires a witness You could say 'truth', in the deepest sense, is identity (subject) with reality (object). Consciousness, in its deepest sense, is also identity with reality. They cannot be split in my eyes, they depend on each other: truth requires a witness; consciousness requires something to be true-of. I think one cannot be more fundamental than the other. Our experience is generated by the activity of the subject (us, identity) and object (reality). Sort of like a whirlpool in the water cannot be separated from the water. It cannot exist without the water, it IS the water. Just as the water of the whirlpool makes up the whirlpool also. From the perspective of inside the whirlpool, you only ever know water as whirlpool.

Hmm, I don't think I fit this. Perhaps in the past? Not currently though. Maybe a poll would be good to gather data 😊 I begun using the forum more when general negative moods were gone. I think you speak the truth about other users though, I could just be an outlier

Like water on Teflon 😁 I acknowledged because you felt the compulsion to respond - normally there is no response at all unless some sort of feeling is provoked Plus each of us perceive things differently, and how we convey something just might not strike a chord

@PurpleTree Sorry you feel that way.