Natasha Tori Maru

@Schizophonia so in your view a cognitive bias is anxiety? I view these things as distinctly seperate.

Not in my experience. You do not have to be anxious to have a habit of thinking with a bias. There is a lot of crossover yes - but it's not a given. Anxiety is an emotional and psychological response to stress, while cognitive biases are systematic errors in thinking that affect how people make decisions and judgments. When the cognitive bias applies to something like dating (being black pilled, as per context) it can cause anxiety but cognitive bias does not inherently do so. It could be yes. They aren't forming a belief based on careful observation & analysis - more reacting in the moment without using intellect to try to solve a problem. Pure non-thinking play and flirting or goofing off to make a woman laugh is probably a good example. In my experience a lot of guys who don't do so well in the dating arena are INCREADIBLY intelligent. But that bias in their thinking is so powerful because the full force of that intelligence is behind their thinking: their black pilled view really is actually correct. Their thinking process is top notch. They have slowly begun to miss key data points in their experience that show the full picture. This typically forms a meaning/belief. It is quite insidious because the thinking and assessment is correct, it is just the bias that makes them see only one data point: IE 'only good looks get girls' by observing their mates dating. But they miss that their mates got girlfriends because they stuck with dating for 18months, whereas the guy in our example gave up within a month. It can be as small as that. Then you end up looking for more data to support your point to confirm is it accurate. Because technically it is. There is just a bit more too it. 2 of my mates were locked into black pill sorta ideology and it took me 4/5 solid conversations to show them how they were operating from a belief, and missing the full truth. And these dudes work at University of Melbourne in the STEM field. They both had these sorts of small subtle loops on their thinking

Honestly 5g is a lot in one go - for me at least. I pissed myself, took off all my clothing, locked myself in the bathroom, and lay face down on the tiles while seeing airplanes emerge from the tiled patterns. I can handle anything around 2g, but 5g? Maybe because I am a chick and sub 50kg weight. I know he has a tattoo for 5meo so it wouldn't be a stretch to surmise he has experience and maybe an idea of tolerance. Interested to hear his report. Anyone know the aims he has with this new protocol?

Not just in relation to this thread - but DAMN @Leo Gura I almost feel you should release the black-pill vid so users can become aware of their own cognitive bias with it. Lots of guys here would probably benefit from it. Even if all it did was show them how their beliefs are being enhanced by their own strong intellect. I find the smarter someone is, the more powerful the cognitive bias. Because they pick the correct data out - but ignore all the other relevant pieces to bring concordance across their psyche (and a more balanced equanimous view of the topic). And their own intelligence works against them to cement that shit in place like a turd that won't flush

The things you listed you want are all desires that won't lead to happiness. Your statement contradicted itself in that you listed temporary ego happiness with inherent suffering, but then said you wanted happiness. It comes across as confused and not well thought out. Almost like your inner world is confused. Just how it appears. And while I think many people do desire happiness, I think most do not know what it is. I perceive you as conflating happiness with pleasure. Even my reply to the OP - if you read it again, it is honest. No lie. OPs reply is also honest. Truth. If you take the time to contemplate, you will see happines being pointed to in the replies. Some people just want peace. Which can become happiness with true embodiment.

Well there's your issue - you do it for your own greatness. Not for other people to see you that way.You'll be locked in ego with a glass ceiling for growth Can't escape the rat wheel with that mindset.

@zurew cheers, the way you phrased your answer cleared up some misunderstandings I had on this topic. @SimpleGuy thanks for the topic 🌱

You can't possibly believe others want something different from life so you look at what you want. And then surmise everyone must want what you want too, so they are lying.

🤦 holychit now you are projecting harder than a postmodernist grading his own essay The whole idea behind projection is that you are unconscious to it. So trust. You just can't see it. And you do it 7/10 posts here! I don't mean this as an attack. In fact I think you are confused only because you haven't realised how you do it - yet.

bruh projecting harder than descartes trying to prove he is real

@Emerald I too am slightly confused with your take here. There may be a nuance or context you are operating from that hasn't been stated. If a woman consensually sleeps with a man - she must perceive him as attractive. Unconscious or conscious. Whether that be looks, social status, intellect, wit, charm, humor. Something in his character is attracting her. Whether it is low consciousness (she has anxious attachment and is attracted to avoidant men, she has had trauma and mistakes love for adrenaline, she has low self esteem and negging makes her approval seeking) attraction or high consciousness does not matter. There is still something there attracting her. That she is matching to within the man. Unless you are referring to the sort of axis relating solely to the physical - IE a woman will sleep with a man who she finds physically unappealing due to his humor, intellect etc. But this is still attraction to the man. My perspective comes from a woman who has never slept with a man I found unattractive. And I have experienced no sexual assault. And my frame is one of enthusiastic consent with the above. I can only think of outlier cases being exclusions. IE a woman feeling she owes it to the man but doesn't like/feel attracted to him. Or feeling guilted into sex.

In my experience as you gain those things you seek, the desire is removed. This reveals a curious emptiness beneath. And diving into that emptiness has been the most revelatory and exciting part of growing older. The inner journey of purification as you attain things, and the synchronous falling away of seeking, lifts off the obscurity that expectation pushed onto us. Clarity. The importance of gaining pleasure or material things has been in the transformative experience and less the thing itself. There is no courage or virtue in being a celebrate monk in a cave unless you know what you are giving up. The experience of this reality is sacred. I know you are already experiencing that process, because you have been on the path for a time already 😊 ...if you are doing it right, that is. And most aren't. Unfortunately most of society is locked in the wheel. Sleeping. And they won't comprehend the beauty of wisdom and experience in the face of the suffering that aging and limitation can bring. They fixate on the loss. Loss of beauty, youth. Ableness. Independence. And so the desire for these lost things takes over and locks people in a calcified mind of lack. I think this is why forgiveness and surrender are such strong pillars of progress.

Maybe old-school Disney. Modern Disney is full of woke ideology and shits out stuff like Tron and Alien Earth. Corrupt money grubbing leads to the endless turd factory of their latest catalogue.

I haven't noticed a lot so far. That being said I really take care of myself and respect my body more than most. What I have noticed is my recovery is longer - so things like hard weights, sprinting etc I need more time to recover. Shit like drinking and having less than 8 hours of sleep hit a bit different near 40. I am blessed with no injury or physical limitations. I haven't experienced any cognitive changes yet. I never crash or slump. No brain fog unless I eat something I cannot digest

Hahaha Waxing poetic. I can picture you entering a beautiful troll mode of replying to posts in ONLY haiku !

@Someone here It could simply be that as you grew out of childhood you developed expectations and had expectations projected onto you. I think in regard to aging up, you have a point touching on the complexity: we seem to trade one set of problems for another. We are less able, but more secure. Know what we want 'clarity', but don't always have the energy to pursue it. Master various parts of the world, but loose openness to knowing. Retire and have more free time: but with a body so broken we cannot enjoy it. Value others more as our social circle shrinks: only to have them die on you or battle debilitating illness. 'Youth is wasted on the young' My advice to you is you cannot possibly conceptualize or try to imagine how you will experience aging. Just like you cannot conceptualize enlightenment. It's another one of those 'experiences'. I look back at my 30 year old self and almost pity her narrow scope of understanding. And knowing how ignorant I was makes me even more aware of how ignorant I am, now.

I hope you are just saying this in isolation and not applying it as some life philosophy. Because this is really a crossroads of ego and meaning talking. If you are chasing greatness for something in return - it's all ego. The moment you don't get what you want you are left with a hollow feeling. When you choose greatness it is because excellence feels like alignment: it is who you are. The truth is you don't always get anything lasting 'in return' for being great. You become something from it. That is the real transformative transaction. The process is where all the good stuff is.

You might be surprised as the breakdown of the body can reduce your capabilities and independence. That autonomy loss must be greived, accepted. Relearning how you live as you go. Not to mention you do/can end up with lots of physical pain. Little things.

Starts with Shakespeare quote, ends with total obscenity 💀

It is a sort of madness trying to fix something internal and intangible like a samskara with something external. Like trying to reshape a concrete block by yelling at it.

So much misunderstanding 🙁 Trying to understand is the issue

Show us on the doll where the European cities touched you @Twentyfirst

Hell yes. Once you get to around 40 it all settles down because you know who you are and what you want.

And INFJ is supposed to be the rarest type - but people often get typed as it. It could speak to the amount of trauma most people carry or it could simply be how people answer the questions in an 'ideal' way they WANT to be, not how they are. And therein lies one of the huge flaws in MBTI testing as it is self reported (online testing that is). I believe @Emerald is an INFJ and comes across as very integrated and healthy. The way she writes and her life purpose scream INFJ to me !

I did! I actually discussed this back and forth with @Joshe as I expressed a lot of doubt with my typing. His questions helped me work out the areas I had issue with and where I was misunderstanding how I was making decisions and acting in the world. I can't be 100% certain, but I suspect I typed INFJ a lot longer ago due to some significant unresolved trauma causing hypervigilance (paying so much attention to community, harmony, others emotions so that I was safe from wrath). This led to me thinking I was a default Fe user. I seemed to have picked up on social queues as a way to survive bad situations with violent people. But the process was extremely draining. I am a project manager in construction... so I think I was blind to where I was using Te. I like this role and I am very good at it I think this highlights the issues with the Myers Briggs tests. I remember you being ENFJ thought