Natasha Tori Maru

Regarding the *actual* debate I feel like they didn't select opponents well. They could have chosen better IMO. A good skeptic that could steelman the shit.

How about yourself? I've run 2 business' - current one is commercial construction and quite successful. When you really run a business - you learn how corrupt the system is and how it runs on exploitation. You have to use that same system against itself to win, which just further fucks over those at the bottom. All the leverage points sit where weakness is, and almost every business needs to exploit them to survive. Construction is a fucken REAL business and one of the most corrupt. It's also the bedrock of humanity. There's nothing you can put forth that will change my mind after having worked this industry for half a decade.

You know... often in marketing and business they sit people down and showcase a product. Employees will be asked to comment - 'Yeah the cup is great, beautiful outlines. Great colour' And remark it is a great product. Top notch and they would buy it for sure. It is going to be a best seller. Then you slap on $10.00 and ask them to purchase the cup - suddenly all those singing praises can't put their money where their mouth is. What people say they want when dating or looking for a relationship is actually NOT usually what they end up 'selecting'. The wisdom here is not to let some of these dialogues/metrics limit you. People say one thing, and do something completely different.

I live alone and very very insular. I do not have much need for general conversation or socialising. But I have had a LOT of experience when younger. Like extroverted social / family mode up until around 35 years old. I just naturally grew out of the requirement for so much variety. I spend most of my free time in meditation, physical practice, nature, reading/research and drawing/art. But my work is quite counter to my insular and peaceful homelife. I work in a family owned business that requires extensive socialisation. Additionally, construction is fast paced and based on people. Problems, always problems. Stress everywhere. So while I live alone with my dog in a very hermit like life on my time, outside of that is 100% people. Not sure where I fit hermit-wise really. If I had the choice (no financial pressure) I would dedicate all my time to inner work, art & body being.

A lot of people get sold on dreams and magical thinking from individuals at the top of the system. I wish them well and hope they make breakthroughs. But I am always looking for the grift. And the is ALWAYS a grift Shhh, don't tell him about how money works - popping the balloon of happy ignorance

I view this as sexist also. This is not isolated to sex.

It is very very head heavy here IMO. I view many users bypassing core emotional issues and attempting to heal on their own (or through spirituality). In reality plain cognitive behavioural therapy is what 70% of the forum needs. But there are many here who simply have no idea how skewed their thinking is. ChatGPT is actually terrible for this in general - it actually does the OPPOSITE of what therapy does - really challenge thinking and belief by pointing out biases. There is a belief that CBT won't be able to assist. In addition most users just need to experience a genuine connection with a human being. You could simply be feeling the lack of emotional intelligence here. Which is very very true. And to be clear I do not think users come here for emotional growth and learning. But that is what they genuinely NEED to progress. It can be frustrating having conversations where you know you can help with thinking loops, but the block by the user is so immense. Arrogance with regard to intellect is the biggest 'vibration' and block here. Aging will humble 99%.

Gotta say I agree with this - would like to see a genuine answer.

Get ready for half the forum to pounce on you, compulsively

@LordFall You could, but at the end of the day one has to use their own discernment & look at the picture wholistically.

I'll have a think about it

@NewKidOnTheBlock The problem is blackpill involves a lot of cognitive bias. The nature of these sorts of slinky thinking loops is that one has no idea their thinking is skewed.

Because it is not what you really want. You want a different circumstance. A change. That doesn't necessitate self harm or death to achieve. These things do not lead to escape.

@theoneandnone Do you have any professionals you speak to, regarding development and mental health? Love and hugs ❤️

@mmKay Thank you for sharing this! And thanks all. I really enjoy the radical open-mindedness. BACK TO UFOs

The basics he promotes are really good - 90% of all you need. And it is a good reminder to many who have forgotten these basics, or are so mired in technology they forget. He just has some whack shit going on as well But we all do, so...

I literally build stuff - construction 😊

Good advice. To be honest there isn't much for anyone to gain from my story. Not at the time, I was very tranced out like you described. It was afterwards. I felt like my concepts of all I knew disintegrated. I questioned everything and felt like I was going insane. I kept trying to redefine reality and what I classed as real. And I really understood in that process that I didn't know anything and hadn't ever really dug into what made me able to define something as real or not. The experience was probably what prompted me to explore OBE's and hypnagogic work. Thanks for being open minded. Will leave it at that

@Eskilon I wasn't going to reveal this here. But I just sort of lost all fucks hiding shit that is a big part of my experience. I used to be so closed off. As I get older I just stop caring about how I am perceived. I have just as many questions as you really. I don't know why the mantis ones showed themselves to me. No other type. I can tell you that they don't exist in our material reality. They don't experience time. They have a collective form of memory/consciousness that is really different because they don't have voices, there isn't a language. Whole concepts of information felt transmitted - it feels like you suddenly have all these gestalt/images but with context transmitted at the same time. But there is an awareness another is connecting and sharing the concepts. You feel the expanse. It is like a giant mind behind the eyes - and it makes me wonder if @Leo Gura's alien consciousness wasn't something similar accessed, somehow. And I do not mean alien as in NHI or extra-terrestrial. I mean like a hive mind of consciousness like a river of knowing. Like a tap into some other type of consciousness that isn't contained to a form but semi unified and expansive. Don't know any of this for sure. Just makes me wonder. I don't have answers - just more unknowns. Like yourself!

Thanks for this. I don't often speak about my experience because in the past it has simply acted to discredit me in other arenas: suddenly one is not taken seriously or completely dismissed because one aspect of experience isn't aligned with others. I do realise it is a huge claim. But to actually deny the experience is a much worse outcome for my own sanity. It is/was a big ontological shock. And I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Did I claim that though? Which is sort of what I am pointing to. Because he is doing some good things. I think you assume I do not see the good stuff simply because I can discern oddities/inconsistencies with someone's message/character. I have been tracking his progress for a good few years, because I am curious.

Maybe - harkening back to your other thread touching on this - the anger is disowned from your experience. This place may be acting as a safe space for you to allow this. Perhaps there could be some suppression. Coming on here could be a function of healthy expression. But I am sure there are other conduits for this. The anger could be masking something else. I always tend to take a good hard look at amplified emotions. 💚💚💚

@Ramasta9 I find it so odd. It is like they want to preserve their ego above all else. The worst part of themselves. The part that refuses to accept limitation. The attached, material side is clung to at all costs. Staunch refusal to engage in the flow of life and its process. Inoculation against nature.

According to the proper use of the word 'claim', yes - because I have no evidence or proof. All I have is my own experience that I return to. For a long time I just told myself I was crazy. And I have been told I am crazy. Or making shit up. I have gone over and over what makes something real.

Twice it has happened - no idea why I was chosen. They gave me the impression I was being observed since an infant. I don't think there is anything remarkable about me that would single me out. Only that I have some skills with emotions & feelings that are less common. At my late grandfathers house the first time (Melbourne). Second time at the Riverina - which is an outback agricultural region in NSW Australia. There is a farm there owned by a family friend I stay at occasionally.