mandyjw

You are right, but we don't disagree. It's just another way to say the same thing. My favorite teacher I got too attached to was Eckhart Tolle. I thought Osho was possessed. Opening my mind up to Osho teaching something different but also necessary, another way to say the same thing... that changed everything. I didn't have to listen for hours upon hours to get the message, I got the message like a knife to the heart. Eckhart's message felt like hours/years of sitting out in the sun, feeling its warmth. It was lovely and I thought it was everything but it wasn't. It wasn't enough. I was attached.

@FoxFoxFox Another trick is looking at the ideas that don't resonate with you with an open mind. That nauseous feeling you get when you do it is your ego slowly dying.

@tsuki That's exactly what I've been realizing before and after this whole thing. You should have seen what I accidentally did to this poor guy in Walmart the other day. I still feel bad but slightly amused it happened. I've identified my problem, if you think you can help me come on over to my journal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVRCyELQnSw

The mind can never understand anything else either. It's fun to try though, isn't it?

"Relentlessly improve, let's see where it gets you", says Sadhguru, that's the part Leo teaches you to do extremely well. As he says you have to let go of your idea of enlightenment. No teacher can give you the truth, everyone has a different way of pointing at the moon. They point in different directions at different times. The moon moves around.

This is me right now. https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/04/29

Your disabilities are your super powers.

You are right. Free will is the knowledge of good and evil, the original curse that eating of the apple signified in the garden of Eden. Having free will is to suffer. Surrender doesn't seem like a prison though, it feels like freedom. It feels like the freedom to be one's true self. Freedom means to question one's true self constantly. I believe that personality remains after enlightenment. I need to be more aware of my tendency to assume that everything should happen for everyone else the same way it happened for me. I recognize that I'm still too caught up in my own impatience.

I wonder what makes us resonate with different teachers.

Don't create duality between your teachers though. I had to listen to Eckhart Tolle for years and deal with my depression and anxiety before I could even open my mind up enough to listen to Abraham Hicks. I thought it was such a materialistic scam. I needed Eckhart Tolle to teach me and I needed her to fill in things. I needed all the other teachers I sought out, or teachers that life threw at me, including many people on this forum and especially Leo to fill in all the things I didn't see in myself. They are all me, I created them. I am them, they created me. Just try to listen to her with an open mind. But maybe she's not the teacher for you, we all pick different ones because we need different things. Honestly though men love intellect and science and I feel like she is a master of emotions and heart and men look down on that. Emotion scares them. It's unconscious sexism. Maybe I'm projecting but... prove me wrong.

She is! Who said enlightenment couldn't be fun? I am thankful for my hours and hours and hours of Eckhart Tolle before discovering her but my mind was too closed to listen to her then anyway. Materialistic stuff always made me sick. Ironically I had a really big desire to move away and I tried to force it into happening. But I couldn't. That offset a spiral of events that made me realize that I'm here, like physically here, for a very good reason. Also Tsuki, thanks for that too. Sorryiforgottogiveyoucreditthereasecondsorry.

Ok. Create yourself a shallow luxurious physical life that your parents will be proud of and all the while you're doing it get enlightened at the same time. Come on son, get to it. I gave you life, you gave me gray hairs, you owe it to me.

I just wrote this in response to another thread but I think it explains her methods really well. Yes, she's a trickster. She seduces you into thinking that you're going to get sex, money and fame in the future and when you fully embrace the desire of those things, in a way that really feels like you actually have them NOW... then you realize that all you ever wanted was that feeling. And that feeling is the vortex, presence, enlightenment, love, God. It's timeless. Your future desires melt away into a present moment feeling of bliss. Also @Serotoninluv When I awakened/leveled up recently it was really painful. Physically painful. It was because I had no education about yoga or chakras. I was too busy for it, I didn't accept it. it didn't resonate with me. I paid dearly for that. Still do really.

@Aakash Your parents don't think that you are wasting your time. You think that.

Yes, she's a trickster. She seduces you into thinking that you're going to get sex, money and fame in the future and when you fully embrace the desire of those things, in a way that really feels like you actually have them NOW... then you realize that all you ever wanted was that feeling. And that feeling is the vortex, presence, enlightenment, love, God. It's timeless. Your future desires melt away into a present moment feeling of bliss.

@Aakash Look at how ridiculous this video and the title look. Are you too spiritual to watch it?

It's all spirituality you silly. Go get enlightened doing what your parents want you to do. You don't have to leave. I want to hear about all your insights along the way.

I want to be the queen of the universe, live in a palace with a turret and have a harem of enlightened men. I also want a velour leisure suit. Ok, I'm lying about the leisure suit.

You've got it all right. She talks more about "paying attention to how you feel", rather than in terms of leaving the vortex I think. Except that Tsuki could be the man if he didn't think Abraham Hicks was some dumb woman trying to make money by selling people lies about how they can live a happy life.

@Aakash Do you want to make your parents happy?

@Aakash Look at what a powerful creator you are. You manifested your spiritual parents out of thin air. Do you want to go to school or do you want to get a job? Whatever you want, it's at your fingertips. What so you really want from life. Money? Women? Fame? A velour leisure suit? What?

OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER. Let's school him David.

@Aakash GODDAMN IT, YOU CAN DO BOTH. Check out the law of attraction. Go ahead focus on your physical life, create it with spirituality. There's no difference between the two. You are creating a duality between the two! It's all God!!! YOUR PARENTS ARE GOD. YOUR TOILET IS GOD. Wake up!