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@Leo Gura I know, my only concern is that if Trump was impeached before his term was up that we would be in for even WORSE ego backlash. It's hard to know how long it needs to take to play out.

Trump is just fulfilling the role of ego backlash after having Obama in as President. What stage was Obama really? Yellow? Imagine being stage red or blue and having a stage yellow President. You're going to think he's the Devil.

@Leo Gura I'm just shocked that he doesn't know or say more about it when he does such intense Vipassana meditations. I guess that if you meditate with the goal of becoming a smarter person, you'll become a smarter person. If you meditate with the goal of forgetting everything you know, you'll forget everything you know. I'm very suspicious of people. People sometimes play roles to act like they know less than they do in order to serve a greater purpose. I can't tell if he's just stuck in his head or if he is playing an important part. Maybe both.

@Lister It cannot happen everywhere but there are places where it can and does happen. Question for you, is a spiral linear?

@Lister Let the land go back to what it was and live off the land. Hunt and fish and gather, and farm unobtrusively. Back to how our grandparents lived or the Native Americans lived. http://indians.org/articles/native-american-spirituality.html

You'll be hungry if you look to yourself for validation and fulfillment too though. We have to do our best to love people without seeking anything from them, validation or anything else. Wanting or needing something from someone is not love. It's so tricky, you can't trust yourself and you can't put your faith in others either. All there is is God, Love and connection, perfect as it is.

@Salvijus Yeah, it's a lot to dig into. I know his basic ideas from lectures and interviews, I haven't read his books. He tries to bridge a gap between science, history, intellect, technology and... that's where it gets frustrating. He gets so close but doesn't bridge the gap. He talks about human beings acquiring powers than transform them into Gods. "Human beings are in the process of acquiring divine abilities, through scientific research and technological development..."

@now is forever Maybe the settlers are the ones who need to adapt.

@now is forever We still have fish, deer and moose. I once got within 6 feet of a moose accidentally. She was sick with meningitis and wasn't acting like a normal moose. She sort of bluff charged at me but never touched me. We killed off the wolves. Managing populations carefully is our duty now.

@now is forever Do you realize that you're condemning an entire people? Hunting and fishing are deeply spiritual practices to the Native Americans and always have been. Driving a car, using electricity, all harm mother earth much more than conscientiously taking the life of an animal that lives in nature.

Love can't be communicated, it can only be felt. Let it in. It can be shared though. Just not through words.

Yes Mom.

@Nahm But they know what you had for lunch. Somehow.

@Serotoninluv I think I feel the same thing honestly. Can you surrender to the yearning? Are you resisting it?

Do you want to exert your authority and intelligence or do you want love and connection?

I came here to this forum a few weeks ago with the intention of teaching people. I had basically given up on Leo's videos and thought that he was way out to lunch. I wanted to help people to know what I knew. I wanted to tell them how great Abraham Hicks was and how Eckhart Tolle had changed my life. I wanted to tell them that Osho was a total piece of crap spiritual teacher, psychedelics were dangerous and that they were mislead. The more I tried to teach people and tried to change their minds the more they graciously or rudely made me aware of things I didn't know. When I started making youtube videos I found out that a lot of the things that came out of my mouth weren't true but I had held them as beliefs and as soon as I said them with the purpose of someone else hearing them, I knew they were false. The whole experience was a total mind fuck. This forum and what I had learned from Leo's videos in the past four years all came together and gave me a breaththrough. I didn't even know what was possible. There ARE levels of conciousness. Leo was right all along! I thought I was it already. You're the one in the bear trap. Just be a student again for a little while. It's ok. The student and teacher are one. it's ok to get what you want and what you need. You really really want out of that bear trap. Stop biting people and let them free you. You think they are trying to hurt you, you think it will hurt, it will just for a moment but then you'll be free. Maybe if you let me free you, I'll free myself too. If you won't do it for you, do it for me.

When you realize that you are just playing a part in a story, you're able to go about pretending as if there's you and other characters, but you know deep down that it's not real. You just have to learn to be a good actor, that's all. You can be anyone you want to be. You're writing the play as you act it out.

@Scholar Anyone that is too interested in one particular truth misses the greater picture.

@Serotoninluv You statement just felt defeating to me, I'm sorry if i projected that. Truly if you can enlighten yourself and you can enlighten the world.

Have you ever really watched the inclination in yourself to play the devil's advocate? It's so strong. When someone says something to us and they are SO SURE that they are right, something rises up in us and we want to show them that they are wrong. We inherently know that any firm position isn't truth, that it's utter bullshit. But, instead of recognizing that fact, accepting it and being still with it, we become it's opposite so that we can strengthen our own egos to oppose it. In the end, no one is really wrong and no one is really right. No one even wins the argument. There's no angel and there's no devil. They are both you. You can't be the devils advocate, you are the devil. If you're going to have a political discussion just go into it knowing that you're having an argument with yourself. If you enjoy that kind of thing, go right ahead. If it's making you angry, ask why you're angry with yourself. @Serotoninluv Collective consciousness and individual consciousness is another duality.

@Mikael89 You devil, you tricked me again. I come in here thinking I'm going to enlighten you and teach you the ways things are and instead you teach me. DAMN IT. I love you. This place is brilliant, it really is.

OH. MY. GOD. MIKAEL, YOU'RE A GENIUS. I love my dog, I don't want to eat him, I love cows, I eat cows. I love my Easter Lily, if I eat it it will poison me, I love green beans, I eat green beans. You can love everything, but still be selective. You still have to choose and know what's right for you. But no one elses choices are anything less than perfect, even if they are different from yours. But you can still CHOOSE THE THINGS YOU WANT in life! It's all ok! OF COURSE! Just like our true selves. Neither male nor female.

I forgot to water my Easter lily. She's totally pissed at me. Be right back.

@Mikael89 Thanks Mikael, I'm self centered and sometimes forget that everyone here isn't merican.