mandyjw

I'm trying to think of an enlightened master who I wouldn't describe as androgynous. Is there one?

@now is forever When you're gone, I'm going to turn this place into a Jesus Camp. Praise the Lord, Hallelujah! You're so right, we do need morals. No drinking, no drugs, no whoring, no dancing, no bananas. No playing card games, no Harry Potter. Thursday night is Prayer Night. We pray for everyone's minor health problems. Dear God, please help Marsha's big toe, Amen.

She is Love. She deserves more love not less.

Someone here sent me this yesterday in response to a question. I've been contemplating it ever since. "Since everything is you, whatever seems foreign to you, is in actuality - you not accepting an aspect of you. " Nowiforever is leaving for the same reason I wanted to cling to Christian morals. I'm lost in a world of devilry and I created it all.

Honey, what were you keeping safe here? The dandelions are beautiful, you don't need to spray the grass with glyphosate.

And when he starts to see color, he sees a red apple and sees color for the first time.

It takes a village. Many families in our society are cut off from the a larger community or even extended family. I don't think that is good for the kids or the parents.

@now is forever Yeah, that drives me crazy, I've made multiple comments to people who have worked for me that they need to wear a mask. They have been made fun of for taking care of their health, or pressured not to do anything that could slow them down. I don't want to be responsible for them getting lung cancer, even if mine was just one project of many they do. Sometimes though, someone in management will require that a certain mask be worn, but since he doesn't actually do the work and get his hands dirty, he doesn't understand that sometimes having your vision obscured by a mask puts you in more danger than not wearing one.

@now is forever Yep, that's definitely a big part of the problem as well.

I spent a lot of my life trying to keep up with men at physical labor jobs. Raking blueberries, demoing, lawn work, whatever. It was an obvious thing that i eventually had to accept that I could work twice as hard and still not match them. When we hired out a ton of plumbing work I had to leave the house because the plumbers dope (pipe adhesive), started literately making me high. I don't remember what I said to the plumbers but I left the house and drove to my parent's house. The roads were snowy but it was warm and sunny and I remember seeing the sky reflected in the road and just being so fascinated that the road looked like it fell away into the nothingness of the sky and having an almost enlightenment experience. Then I thought about how all those men have gotten so used to those fumes, day in and day out working stuck in a basement all day. And I was really really grateful to them. Most women are too smart and care too much about their health to do that kind of work. I truly admire men who do blue collar labor, the truck drivers, the construction workers. Sure women can do that kind of work, but most can't or won't. This is a fact that we're just supposed to ignore. And our ignorance of it, is why rural America elected Donald Trump. Stage green feminism elitism has created a monster.

@now is forever Yes, it occurred to me. But all phenomena are things that we created that we won't accept about ourselves. So I'm told.

@now is forever Who doesn't get it?

nowisforever You're so vague everything you say is like fertile soil for projections, they pop up like weeds. I'm going to avoid the trap this time, I have to go do yard work. Trouble is, round up kills the bees and causes cancer.

@now is forever Georgia O'Keeffe painting?

I'm super uncomfortable making this explicit comment BUT it seems important for some stupid reason. If you're a feminist it's not about the vagina, it's about the clitoris. The vagina is for someone else's pleasure, not entirely, but it's the gateway to life. Feminine power and pleasure is about the clitoris. It has no other function.

Sorry I fucked things up.

@tsuki None of us have this figured out. Not a single one of us. Don't pretend that you do and that your wife's feelings don't matter and are her own problem.

@tsuki

Ugh. I feel like this forum is scaring me off again.

I still think it's much smarter to be the tomboy, be seen as an equal and a friend first, then weed out the shallow ones from the honest ones. When they see you as some sort of angel "above" them, you'll always be something that will or will not fulfill their desires, instead of having a real relationship of any type, platonic or romantic. I mean attraction has way more layers than just visual attraction. Why settle for just that?

All women are beautiful. I've never met one who wasn't. I HAVE met women who don't believe that they are beautiful but I see through it.

@CreamCat I've spent the last few years of my life like that. Sweatpants, glasses, looking like a slob, hiding. It works, people treat me a lot more like a person. If I dress up and go somewhere around men they act stupid and look at me like I have three heads. If I dress like a slob, they aren't attracted to me but they will relate to me on a personal level much more easily. So when I care for my appearance I'm objectifying myself? That doesn't seem quite right.

@arlin It's a general "you". Our society places a lot more importance on women to be physically attractive. Personality is less important in a woman than it is in a man, society wants us to believe. This creates a shadow and an unmet desire to be seen for her personality or who she really is. So even though she puts on make up and attractive clothes she hates herself and when it attracts a man, she hates him too.

Many women have two choices in many environments, either be seen as an object and risk being harassed and abused or hide completely from people. The problem is that you only want the "hot" women. You objectify them before you even started trying to form a relationship. As long as you treat women like an object they will in turn treat you like something that doesn't have feelings.

I needed to hear/read this, thank you.