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Oh. @Truth Addict We need to have a talk.

Ok, I'm even starting to really annoy myself now.

I believe that he knows exactly what he is doing. Being older and getting a bit senile might play into it some, but don't be fooled, he is a genius when it comes to making the common man think that he has their best interests at heart. What we need to someone who can make them believe it and who actually DOES have their interests at heart. That's a major challenge. Sometimes you have to appear at just the right moment when they realize that what worked for generations isn't going to cut it anymore. Timing is everything.

@tsuki You're as blind as a bat my love. So was Grammie, by the end.

@tsuki I did tonglen for my Grandmother, the night she died. It bounced back and I received a feeling of peace and well being stronger than I was able to give. An hour later my mom told me that she was gone. Everyone wanted her to hurry up and die. She was inconveniencing everyone, she stopped sleeping and started seeing dead people and she got mad at people for not understanding her reality. Grammie just needed to finish her vision quest. All in good time.

@jbram2002 No, you missed the point. It's about enlightenment. There's a reason that she continued to call the old man boy, even when he is too old do nothing but sit upon her stump.

@winterknight Excellent points. I believe that someone is always going to find weak people to take advantage of, and no matter how much regulation you put into place there will always be a loophole. Regulation is needed, but I would also love the uneducated to receive financial education, especially poor communities. The kind of people who don't understand how interest accumulates, the kind of people who regularly take pay day loans those are the ones who need it most. Teach kids in highschool or earlier to be conservative and intelligent with their own finances. Teach them that their freedom and their time and life is worth more than money and possessions. I don't care if you have to get rid of algebra and English class, drill it into their heads. The reason that politicians make these mistakes, the reason Alan Greenspan was deluded is that he doesn't understand the mindset of those who are getting preyed on. When you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth, when you are blessed with a high quality education, it's easy to think that everyone can have the same opportunities. They simply do not, they have different motives, they live in the present moment. It's the very same present moment that we are trying to go back to having spent so long engineering our futures and slaving away towards them. They never left the present moment. It's beautiful and it's also really dangerous. Why are the people who need Democratic policies THE MOST resistant to them? Because Democrat leader STILL don't really understand them. Instead of seeing wealth as a status symbol, they see their intellect and education as it. That's their self worth, that's where they have a lot of ego. Education and intellect is the same as material success. It feeds, you it clothes you, you need it. But do not attach your ego to it. We know nothing. This is a democracy, it's as beautiful as it is inconvenient. We are only as strong as our weakest link, we are in this together. You can't shortcut and cheat your way to a better world and leave people behind in the process.

@Shin My kid is sick so I can do this ALL day long. You guys are all so nihilistic, black holes and melting and nothingness.

@Shin Face what, there's nothing here. No face to face.

@Preetom You must be both a rebel and a devotee simultaneously. The Civil war in your mind will free you from slavery, even though the slave isn't the one who is fighting in the war.

I agree, I'm not sure why it shouldn't be worthy of youtube.

@Etherial Cat For some reason I had assumed you were American. Why are there so few Americans on this forum??? It's seriously destroying my skewed American centric world view. Hey Leo, I was born in the US, so if you want, I'll run for President for you, I'll be the face, and you can do all the hard work. As a bonus, I'm really good at saying stupid things out of the blue, just like George W Bush. The American people really seem to appreciate that kind of thing.

I'm already dead, I gave up my faith already, the war has already been fought. You stand over me with a knife but I'm not afraid.

The server is infinite, silly.

Itchy nose meanings. https://www.ryanhart.org/itchy-nose-meaning/ @tsuki I am in love with myself.

@tsuki othership sounds too much like mothership for me not to make a wordplay joke that ended up being really funny and nondual because I was talking to Leo, about the leaders of our country. Then I started playing his video exactly where he was talking about aliens. It was great.

@Leo Gura If so many people weren't idiots who continually take on mortgages for home they can't afford, get themselves into credit card debt and take our massive student loans the Great Recession wouldn't have happened. There are many different defenses against evil and misfortune and teaching personal responsibility is YOUR forte. It's also the conservative highest value. I'm not saying that who shouldn't be so interested in politics, you should I just hope that you fully understand your potential here. There's something to learn from everyone, every racist country bumpkin redneck knows something about the universe that you don't know. It's all pure potential, don't overlook anyone because in doing so you only underestimate yourself.

I came into this world KNOWING I was both the Devil and God. Other people have confused me all my life. tsuki calls me a repressed saint and Leo calls me the Devil. Why do I create other people? Why is confusion better than being alone? I think the only kind of people who pursue nonduality are the type that HATE surprise parties. Then you get rewarded with the realization that life is just ONE BIG SURPRISE PARTY THAT YOU'RE THROWING FOR YOURSELF. At least there's cake.

othership, mothership? take me to your leader. now i sound like nowisforever.

@Leo Gura Jesus was radical but he wasn't dealing with a democratic government. We have to be realistic about how much we can make a change within an existing framework. Hearts have to be changed before minds can be. Minds have to be changed before physical change is made. I recently saw this engraved on the only black guy's grave in the old cemetery here in my town. "The war of the rebellion freed the slaves." The backlash came before the slaves were freed, the backlash started the war and the loss of the war was what freed the slaves. Abraham Lincoln quoted Jesus to say that "A house divided against itself cannot stand", the disagreement about the issue of slavery was too great. Do we need another civil "war"? Or do we need to integrate and compromise with one another? Everything you do is ultimately something you do to and within yourself. Republican, rural, conservative values are not worthless. While they are very difficult to respect sometimes, they must be appreciated and they must be integrated or we are fooling ourselves that we are conscious. Go spend a year working on a farm somewhere. Forgot your education and work with your hands under the sun. There is a certain kind of wisdom that hard physical work, that the earth so gracefully imparts on you. You don't get a degree to show for it, but it's real and it humbles you and opens your heart. Why do you like Bernie, why is his image the way it is? Because he's from Vermont and knows how to govern a rural state. Why do you think so many of Jesus' teachings were stories and parables about farming and fishing? Why do you think he worked as a carpenter? The Pharisees were the learned ones, he was down to earth. If you want to be a Christ you need to learn to understand these people, you need to become one. Time to get your hands dirty Leo.

@Leo Gura Jesus stayed out of politics and the government, in fact he really disappointed a lot of his followers. They tried to blame him for inciting people against Rome, because they had a hard time coming up with a good reason to crucify him but he never did that. He told people to pay their taxes and he resisted when they tried to force him into becoming a king. Jesus was a healer and a spiritual teacher. He knew his life purpose and stuck to it. He didn't try to be a radical, it just happened to be the case. I do see your point but is there no room for mediators and compromises? Isn't that the purpose of understanding other people and using the model of spiral dynamics? Too much change too soon causes collective ego backlash, and that's what Trump embodies. We have a two party system, and an electoral college that decides for us. If the popular vote decided the election Hillary Clinton would have won. Rural American gets more weight in elections and you have to apply your understanding of spiral dynamics. Bernie might work out. He had a great shot in the last election but we can sit here and blame the DNC and corruption there for that. Bernie better understands rural America and how to speak to people. I think he is seen as too polarizing now. You're very well educated, and you've spent your life around people who are also well educated. Spend some time living in rural America and you'll have a different world view. I'm not sure that you realize how intimidating a politician who doesn't hide their intelligence is to people who don't have a good education. You have to know how to talk to people on their level. Bernie knows this. Hillary Clinton had little understanding of it and neither does Elizabeth Warren. Warren would be my top pick if it was up to me, but it's incredibly difficult for anyone to come off as both highly intelligent, capable AND down to earth. How do you think Bernie and Warren's messages sound? Canceling student loan debt? When I've spent my life working a blue collar job and no one in my family has a college education? When the few people I know who have gone to college look down their noses at me? What planet do you even live on? Uneducated people look at intelligence as the highest form of Devilry. There's a reason Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Obama, literally ALL the Presidents had a persona that all people could see themselves in. Clinton and Warren spent their lives trying to prove themselves to intelligent men, and they forgot the importance of not alienating the rest of the country that wasn't as blessed with the opportunities they had for education. It's not their fault that women have to work so hard to prove themselves, or that they feel they have to. But it is their fault for carrying a chip on their shoulder that other people can see from a mile away.

@Shin

@Leo Gura You're more optimistic than me. I would rather put in a democrat who is a waste of a term than risk Trump getting a second term. Ironically, I just mentioned the law of attraction but I'm not being very mindful of it right now am I? The problem I see is that both Warren and Sanders have been branded as extremists. Moderates and frustrated Republicans WILL come out to vote against Trump as long as the democratic candidate doesn't scare them away.

Can we please just have boring old Joe Biden, he's friendly, kinda cute and most importantly he's NOT SO POLARIZING. The law of attraction made Donald Trump president. Everyone who voted came to vote AGAINST a candidate not FOR them.