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@Leo Gura I've been following your tinnitus posts, and I have a 2/10 .. for many years now, I barely notice it now, I was interested in following the procedure that you laid out but I think you said a few times it could potentially make it worse if you dont know the cause .. its been many years for me and I dont know the cause at all, so probably I should avoid it? I rather not gamble with my life and make things worse .. is my thinking .. unless chances are very low that it could get worse? Would your 2nd option be one that doesn't have chances of it getting worse?

@Leo Gura your research suggests a crash as big as 2008 soon? I didnt check the context, maybe you're saying a similar crash in terms of dynamics, but not severity?

@Leo Gura I saw an interview with JP and his daughter, and his daughter said he flew to Romania or something to meet Andrew Tate, and he was trying to push to see if they "went to town" lol .. he mustve been slightly horrified inside .. no idea why she even flew out to meet Andrew of all people, even id be slightly horrified and im not even conservative

Hey Guys, I was hoping we can come up with an ultimate list of your most powerful motivation techniques. I think it's less about quantity and more about quality. What has personally worked for you the most? What results did you have? How exactly do you apply the technique? I truly believe one of the things that is stopping us from our goals, holding us back is our degree of hard work and motivation. I am also hoping that we can have sort of "reports" on testing these techniques and report back with results. I will try to do the same. I will share mine that has been working amazingly for me: 1. "The Eminem-Infuser Technique" Still working on the name .. lol But what I do is, 1 to 2 times a day, I first start listening to a few of Eminem's latest songs from the death of slim shady, followed by the classics Till I Collapse and Lose Yourself, ending with Godzilla. I know this already sounds corny, but honestly fk it, if its corny, dont worry, pls share. I am willing to test your best techniques. I have been working 7 to 13 hour days lately. Now I don't say that to make you think this is the "right" thing to do. This is not about morals, nor health, nor other stuff. I am simply in a situation in my life right now where I don't have a choice. (Motivation technique 2) But you don't need to be in painful situations like me to benefit from this fyi. Anyways, the guy from Bobby Fisher, forgot his name, he would use Lose Yourself as a trigger to get in the right state. It's similar to techniques from NLP. I heard it in theory years ago, but just some months ago I really made this a core part of my life. And for ex. today I was feeling shitty, in bed. And I was for sure thinking it won't work today. I put the headphones on (this is very important), and just went through the songs, closed my eyes, imagined me embodying his energy, beliefs, confidence, and that stuff really starts to rub into you. Suddenly your negative emotions go away, you get wired, focused, your up. Then Godzilla always makes my jaw drop because of his utter confidence, excellence in rap, the speed of his rap, etc. And I got out of the shitty state and I'm back on the flow. 2. Just being in a painful situation, a situation where you don't have much choice, reminding yourself of that, getting in touch with that 3. Just realizing how long you've been putting off your dreams, sort of being "done" with that. I am interested in the best ones for you. No need to share them all, just the ones your most excited to share. If we make an ultimate list, report back on results, I think we can all start to have this compound effect, network effect in this thread. I know this form is a lot about philosophy and all that. I love that too myself. But I truly feel many of us need just much more action in our lives. I've noticed how much philosophy takes me away from my goals that need intense focus and action on. A bit of philosophy does help actually, but too much and I'm all over the place. If you're like me and you need more focus in your life, let's focus on more action (on the right things of course).

@PRai1ND1A wow i resonate with that a lot, that just got me excited by life. Though I know nothing about MMA lol but I did hear great things about Khabib Not wanting an average life is also huge, im gonna write these down.

@Leo Gura ah okay nice .. would be an interesting conversation for sure, I do like a lot of his talks

@Leo Gura That would be very interesting but wondering a) just sending him an email means its a high likelihood of him agreeing? b) why would you want to if you have a lot of criticisms towards him? Im just curious why engage in conversation with him if you're opposed to his worldviews?

@Quader He would earn 1/100th of what he earns now .. he would barely earn a proper monthly salary, and he worked hard at building a product, theres no reason to make it donation only; Its not about his worry, his patrons will leave him high and dry, most people will not pay if they dont have to, thats how humans are

I would but Im still recovering from bad trips lol

@Leo Gura loll that wont help us .. I have gotten scammed multiple times, a 5k course by some marketing lunatic, even owen scammed me with a subpar course once, the list goes on .. when you struggle in life from a lack of success then something much stronger is needed, dunno what that is, maybe a very strong pain point .. I have been holding back on the life purpose course because I keep trying these quick side hustles, the cycle keeps continuing, its exhausting

@Leo Gura oh okay .. all this is very tricky to navigate at times. Orange is a very consuming mindset for me and I guess america at large, and yet at the same time I need it the most at this point in my life, and yet the all consuming nature of it is making me realize how distorted this lens is, damn .. I have listened to much stuff beyond orange, including most actualized teachings but when you're in orange the pull of orange is very strong

@Leo Gura damn i have idolized them all for so long listening to them almost every day .. I mean they all have a lot of good teachings though, but if that is peak orange then you are saying there is better success advice out there? I never thought of them all like that. Quite frankly, doesnt make me feel so good to hear that lol .. but of course one can take the good teachings and leave out the bad Like Tim Ferriss, he puts out so much wisdom these days with his podcast, all these nuanced self help techniques. Systems thinking books may help, so would other books like LOA, but isnt the books you call orange the gold standard for success?

@Leo Gura yeah but its not just the low consciousness success advice, even the best success advice teaches the same principles of relentlessness, and such. Tim Ferriss, Tony Robbins, Jack Canfield, top podcasts with CEOs showing up, top books, the greats like Michael Jordan .. thats what makes you take a step back in your personal dev journey

@Leo Gura because personal development circles glorify the principles of relentlessness, and similar values pointing to such "heroes". So in trying to model those behaviors I didn't equate those values and principles to all the negative consequences that leads to it. I am also aware of Amazon's culture, but its easy to mentally segregate the bad things to glorify these traits that make you successful. It's a weird personal development thing.

I used to really look up to him as a role model but now its mixed feelings because of this greed. My uncle has been telling me for a long time how corrupt musk is but I didnt buy it. He works at Tesla and apparantly its absolute hell to work there. Not just musk but the culture is absolutely toxic, even with the workers there. Everyone cusses each other out and is greedy and stuff.

Am I getting this right .. Elon musk has been constantly pushing hard for the regulation of AI, meeting the UK prime minister, putting that letter forward for people to sign .. and Biden admin was actually taking steps to regulate AI compared to trump admin, and still doesn't vote for Biden despite him saying AI is the greatest existential threat to humanity? and also the fact that he's going all out to build it, partly fueled by revenge for OpenAI?

I just saw @Leo Gura's blog post. I had to rewatch the first guy's video 3x, this actually sounds batshit crazy. I tried skimming some parts of the 900 page paper: https://www.project2025.org/policy/ But I honestly don't understand it. I'm unfortunately very ignorant of anything politics related on a technical level, although I do listen to a lot of high level stuff. I tried putting some of the pdf papers into chatgpt, and well ChatGPT is too damn nice I guess. It says everything is fine lol but its ChatGPT. Anyways, what's really going on here? Some things I'm thinking: What are the implications of this? By current government processes, built over centuries, how could it let one man have so much power and be a dictator like that? would the government even allow this? How much of this is fear mongering? Could this be just a bunch of idiots trying to get it there way but the government won't allow that? I really don't know, but I definitely didn't like a lot of the points the guy in the first video described. I mean people say a lot of stuff, but does that mean any of this stuff will really happen? I'm also curious what you guys think the implications this could have on an individual level? the future? different sectors like AI, military, etc.? What groups will get affected and how? Key point of my post: I definitely don't want to make this sound like I am choosing an argument or position here. I really just want to understand this situation deeper, if there really is that much of a concern at all. I think first having a deep understanding of the situation is key. Kind of random, but a youtuber commented on that first video: "German here. I have found out about Project 2025 months ago and have been worried ever since. My grandparents fell for it. I hope that most of you don't." you guys don't really think this is anything similar to hitler is it? again, just looking for understanding here.

@Leo Gura not a bad idea to link it in the high consciousness resources forum

@Leo Gura Well true in most cases, but my last girlfriend we'd have deep philosophical convos and bonding in that way with a girl .. you can get a lot of meaning and joy out of that, but even then its not something that you do all the time, most of the time it really is just play

@Leo Gura it seems you're pretty confident about the likelihood of a crash. Im honestly not that skilled in it. I hear people talking about a "crash" all the time. I guess that's a skill one needs to develop, which allows you to execute such a strategy. If you're able to accurately assess market crashes then it's a strategy worth looking into, which I will.

@Leo Gura But see here's the problem, say I sell now, the market goes up from here, then there wont necessarily be a good time to re-enter, which you'd want to do because Im talking about its value in 10 years, and then when do you re-enter? It's very hard to time markets. If Im not skilled in timing markets, itd only make sense for a buy and hold long-term strategy. You're thinking of a buy and sell short-term strategy.

@Leo Gura I got in Nvidia early, at a 3x right now, overall sure you can try to time the market and sell when its overheated, and sure there is definitely a lot of hype right now, but continuing to sell, buy, sell, buy, some of us just want to buy and hold long-term, and that's a solid strategy too right? Sure even if there's a 60% drop, if you believe in a company longterm, and see its long-term value, then it makes sense to just stop eyeing the fluctuations so much, focus on the value of the company, let it go and move on to other projects? For ex. Nvidia is leading the monopoly in computing and chips, and over time more and more products and services will be built on compute, making Nvidia a no-brainer buy.

@kev014 Regarding the "bullying" part, I also feel that Owen is more on the side of just being direct, rather than trying to be nice, but there are moments where he is up in his face yelling at him saying things that was clearly hurting him. I mean throughout the whole thing this guy is on the verge of tears and Owen just says he's going to keep hammering him. Now sure that still might not be bullying to you, but Im not so sure to be honest. He was much happier as he came on the stage, but Owen just kept hammering his self-esteem and didn't stop. I was looking to join some toastmasters organizations and on every club page it says in clear writing that there's no pressure to speak, and you speak if you want to speak. Contrast that to Owen yelling in his face, not giving him a choice, saying things like "look you can't even smile" "you can barely talk". Again, I don't know for sure, but thats what Im even wondering about in this thread, is if that is even bullying or is that a way to make him stronger. Maybe the intention makes all the difference. Regarding the "pain with the old way of being", that's a good point. I have been considering experimenting with that. I do see a lot of value in that, atleast in the early aspects of personal development for my life. And you also make a good point about being internally validated. From that POV I can see tremendous value here. But I wonder if being harshly rejected like that is healthy for the self-esteem. Like if you take another perspective, would you surround yourself with toxic people who put you down even if you're internally validated? Im not so sure that's a great idea, because we do get affected by our environment. This idea of being internally validated, of course to a high degree that matters, but Im wondering if making a strategy out of constantly being rejected is healthy. Perhaps it is, that's what the idea of failure is. Maybe it makes you tougher. Maybe it puts a scar or 2, some pain, but at the tradeoff of being very secure with yourself, and internally validated, I think thats worth it. Overall, appreciate the input a lot. After what you said, Im more on the side of incorporating some of these aspects into my life. I can see tremendous value here. I also don't mean to get too hung up on the definition of bullying either. From a bigger picture perspective, something in me is telling me I need to challenge myself much more, associate much more pain, face much more and much harsher rejections, etc.

Owen cook helped transform this kid, 20 years old, 4 years ago through what appears to be bullying? I'm still debating if this is bullying to be honest because on one hand, it seems pretty obvious that this is a pretty strong form of bullying and harassment even, but on the other hand it's like a form of military training for his ego dissolution to become a self-transformed person, more confident, less scared in the world by exposing himself to harsh rejection. Just look at this transformation. This is him before, about 4 years ago. You don't have to watch the whole thing, although I did. You can skip around to the parts where Owen is talking to him (somewhat bullying him) He said he was watching Owen's videos for 5 years and only ever socialized with 1 person. Almost no action, just a theory junky - In the first video. And this is him about 1 year ago (3 year transformation) I've even seen Owen in person treat his son with 30% of that same bullying that he did to this kid. I took my friend who isnt much into this form of personal development to see Owen and he didn't like Owen at all for how he treated his kid and how much he yells in general. But I also don't think he treated his kid right. Again you can skip around to the parts where he's making the people on stage do exercises. Now I've seen a lot of Owen videos, but this kid's story resonates with me a lot because I too have had a hard social journey, and still have so much to transform. I relate a lot to him. I also sense there's a powerful public speaker in me waiting to come out. I'm wondering, does this form of exposure therapy really work? I mean clearly it did on him, but I mean exposing yourself to very harsh circumstances, often very harsh rejection for serious transformation? Isn't that how the military is able to take weak men and make them into strong men? I've always taken the approach to kaizen, and mastery by george leonard as the path to personal growth, but I'm wondering if I could use some of what this kid got in his life, that is really challenging myself, facing harsher circumstances to make myself stronger, even very harsh rejection to grow myself socially as well? I mean in that first video he is literally getting bullied, having his self-esteem beaten down by Owen, how does that even help? And yet it did? So then is this a pretty solid path for personal development on top of the habits that you do? To challenge yourself each day to do something that really scares you, really challenging environments that scare the absolute crap out of you? Or can one coast by small iterations of exposure therapy. But how strong does that make you really if you don't truly dive into the absolute terror. This video literally has me questioning if I have been living too soft all my life, avoiding being rejected even though Ive socialized quite a bit, Id socialize in ways that are not polar, not truly myself so as not to be rejected so often or so harshly. But now Im questioning if people need to put themselves in much harsher environments more consistently to grow themselves truly.

@Leo Gura Oh yeah good point, i do mostly look at business stuff so that explains that, as well as just scrolling youtube shorts which I think is biased based on what you view more, as well as youtube shorts being more gen Z I think. It's possible that Gen Z is moreso trump, but thats a wild guess. Well thats good to hear, often looking at social media comments I start to lose faith in humanity. I deleted Insta because Insta reels comment sections are overwhelmingly very negative and toxic. Atleast youtube theres a lot more positivity.