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@Yali I would be curious to know too. High value in terms of being sexually attractive especially.

@LastThursday @Jacob Morres I am not talking about pure sex here. I am talking about relationships. Guys these days can easily get pure sex via prostitutes, if you really want to “bust a nut” you can do it easily. The idea is not for pure sex but for the whole emotional thing of a relationship. Cuddles, hang holding, being loved and desired by someone, feeling like a lovable human being, making someone else happy, growing with someone etc. Basically a relationship, it includes sec ofc but not just that. Why guys are willing to settle for basically ANY girl that shows ANY interest in them and have 0 standards when girls meanwhile have quite high standards and only will settle with a high value guy. Why dont men also have standards especially decent guys. I know plenty of guys that were quite fine that were quite willing to date anything.

@Preety_India You are right. However i have met a lot of guys that need more emotional connection and love than pure sex. Depends on people i guess.

@Preety_India Yeah exactly people watch some pick up videos and expect girls to have sex in the first date haha. That might happen in Vegas or Murican cities and Western Europe however in other parts of the world sex needs a shit lot of comfort and time spend with the person to happen. ESPECIALLY when people are younger. This is one of the things where i heavily dissagree with Leo because he sees it from a Western liberal point of view when most of the world is not that. In a lot of countries you need to legit marry to have sex with someone, and in a lot of countries including eastern europe you first get with someone in a relationship and then you have sex with them a few months later. Usually kissing is the "we are together" indicator, not sex. Sex happens after relatioship. The "there can be no realationship before sex" applies for liberal western places, not for the entire world. The attraction triggers might be the same for women in different parts of the world, however the order of operations is not. I know a lot of people from conservative countries that legit dated for months before they first had sex, they were in a relationship in the meantime. This is the case especially for younger people.

@kras Try to seduce her and at least do other stuff like kissing, foreplay etc. Some girls can be prudish and sexually repressed due to their upbringing so 6 days without sex can definetly be a thing. How old is she? Where was she raised and where is her family from? Does she has a lot or little previous sexual experience. I know teenage couples (around 16 until 18) that legit did not have sex for 2 years (except oral) while they were in a relationship and both were virgins. Sex and dating is not always like it is in American Pie, some cultures and people are very conservative and reserved about it. Stage blue basically.

@Preety_India Very true however a lot of them do not just want to fuck, they more than that want to feel loved and cared for by someone. Guys often will not admit it due to pride however deep down what they seek even more than sex is love, affection and human warmth.

@StarStruck @tsuki Yeah it started like a dumb thread that demanded sex communism and then it became a thread about sexual education and teaching guys to be more social and skilled at getting girls. Also it underlyed a huge problem in today's world which is not talked enough about which is the increasing trend of guys that struggle with girls. What pisses me off is that you have some guys that i personally know that are intelligent, kind, caring, relatively confident, cool to talk with and overall great people that are either virgins or had sex like once and then you have some fucking pieces of shit like John Anthony and other PUAS with legit hundred and hundred of girls that they slept with. Purely disgusting.

@Peter Miklis Plus sex is considered less and less as something that should be charished and done with someone you love and more as casual feel good experience. A girl that sleeps on a first date will be more likely to cheat than a girl that takes 5 dates to sleep with you. Reason is that if she takes longer to sleep with you it means she cherishes sex more and therefore will be less willing to have it on a moment of weakness or drunkness for example. This is a bit of a paradox for us guys because we all love girls to be able to sleep with us easily however we want them to be loyal only to us. It is the equivalent of the girls that want a strong ruthless guy to date but to her he will be super nice and kind. That often does not happen. Girls know this well which is why they hesitate to sleep with a guy very fast. Note to other: A girl that sleeps easily with you is great for casual relationships but tread carefully for serious relationships.

I think it also depends on the girl, some girls tend to sleep more and shit more than others (less wanting commitment). Also liberal girls tend to be like that more than conservative girls in terms of open relationships and stuff. Sleeping around has become less and less as a signal of cheating the more liberalized sex becomes. A trade off of being able to fuck a girl in the first date which is super nice for us guys, is that there is higher chance some other guy will seduce your girl and screw her behind your back. Liberal sexually open girls are more fun but for serious relationships i think a prudish girl would be a safer bet. Also trying to increase your worth and skills will increase the chance of keeping her loyal to you but you cannot compete with the entire world. Never and i repeat, never become less than the person you were met you two met, always try to grow and improve. Not for your relationship sake but for your own personal sake. Bottom line: Be wise about who you decide to commit, focus on values and not just on looks. Try to find a good balance between the two.

I have noticed that a lot of people tend to say stuff like "women like personality more than looks" and "just be confident and fun" and stuff like that. I think there is a lot of truth to that, however this leaves me with a question. Why are men these days in Western countries so insecure about their appearance and not their behavior/personality. If it was a fact that women like personality more than looks then would not it make more sense that guys who cannot get girls would feel insecure about not being confident enough or charismatic enough? Why the most insecurities in men stem from their appearance and sometimes lack of money/good jobs. Why does society in general promote the idea of the good looking guy getting girls instead of the confident charistmatic guy? If you do not pass an exam, the common answer you would get from society is simple, study more. If you cannot get girls why the common answer people give is regarding stuff like "the girl does not like your looks" and shit like that. Why most men suffer from physical insecurities a lot more than personality insecurities. I am not saying that all insecurities are about appearnace but most of them are. "If only i was good looking" is heard more often than "if i was more confident and charming". Why?

This has been going on for a long time now. We started from tribes, to city states, to small states, to bigger countries and now some bigger organisations are created like the EU for example. It will take a long time though for a global government, centuries in my opinion. Not happening anytime soon. Just uniting Europe which is one of the most developed regions in the world has proved to be extremly difficult and messy process. Globalization is arguably the biggest thing that will speed this process up. @Leo Gura I have noticed a lot of people are against this idea of a global government even educated people from developed countries. They fear it will ruin diversity and different cultures and some also fear that the new global government will give too much power to a select few people (those that will govern it). Personally i think a global government might have some cons but also has a lot of pros in it. Just the amount of energy and issues created by wars, political tensions, trade wars, etc is huge and this is removed by a global government. Also (might be wrong about this), but global government will hopefully eliminate or greatly reduce the issues of racism and discrimination. The idea of the concept of country being dissolved is scary for like 95 percent of the world population and therefore that is why i think it will take centuries for the global government to become a thing.

Many possible reasons. Some of them are: 1. Sex and love are human needs 2. A man's worth in society is closely related with how successful he is with females. 3. When the rest of your life is handlded well, the few things which are not will become of major importance. Your mind is always looking for the next thing to "check from the needs box" 4. Some people do not have enough friends and need someone to spend time with 5. Lack of self love and self acceptance 6. Lack of ability to be happy alone 7. Lack of experience with girls and hence a huge desire to try it since it will be something new for you I hope these clear it up for you.

Not true at all! That is a bullshit steriotype people have which is incorrect. 50 percent of relationships these days are formed through online dating, which is literally half. Most guys use them to find a girlfriend not neccessarily to get laid. You can use same logic in real life, the guy just wants to fuck and dump you. Online dating is not any less relationship driven then real life dating is. Maybe it used to be 10 years ago but these days, especially with COVID it has become the main source of meeting partners, even more than actual real life interactions. I would say the chance of some Chad approaching you in a bar and trying to seduce you is equally high than with a Chad in Tinder regarding "pump and dump" possibility. I know plenty of guy friends that used Tinder for example to find a partner that really wanted someone, not just for casual sex. https://qz.com/1546677/around-40-of-us-couples-now-first-meet-online/#:~:text=Some 39% of heterosexual couples,same-sex couples that year. Would not be suprised if with COVID this reached 50 percent (2017 study). I used to also believe girls in online dating were of lower quality and sluts however i was just being retarted. When like 75 percent of the whole population uses online dating then you will basically run into the same people you would run in real life, be it good or bad. It is no longer a small specific portion of the population, it is literally the entire population. If a guy wants to find a girlfriend, both high and low quality guy, he will first use online dating since it is more conveninent and simple rather than going out and shit. So the access of good guys is not any lower than what you would find in bars and clubs. I can even say guys in bars and clubs are lower quality since there is quite a high percentage of players and stuff like that which obviously is not good partner material.

1. If they talk too much about themselves and are not geniounly interested about you- BIG PROBLEM 2. If they brag too much and are not humble- BIG PROBLEM 3. If they do not do the small gentleman stuff like opening door, paying for you (cultural so depends where), suggest to walk you home (if that could be a thing) etc -Problem 4. If they look at other females like waiter etc- Problem 5. You can ask them about a specific thing you said, so come back at it in a way to see if they were paying attention or not to what you were saying. 6. If they act overly dominant or assertive- Can be a problem. Confidence yes, overly domininant no. 7. You can tease him a bit and see the reaction, if person gets too butthurt or takes it way too seriously- Can be a problem unless it is a hurtful comment like commenting on their appearance, income etc. 8. You can test their intellectual capability or knowledge by doing a bit of deep conversations, not too much but just a bit to get a feel if the person would be compatible about that stuff. Hope it helps, im not expert but i am very good at reading people from a few meetings and get a good feel for their personality.

I think another reason on top of what others said, is that males tend to be more rational and pragmatic then females. They have a bigger bias for pure logic, quantification and rationalization then females which use intuition more. Logic can create barriers on practicing spirituality. Another reason which i think is huge is that usually males tend to be more achiever focused. This is partially from evolution and partially due to gender roles where the man is supposed to provide tangible results, that is their definition of success. A male that earns an average income but is very spiritual would not be considered as successful by mainstream society. Spirituality is anything but tangible. It is not just spirituality that is dominated by females and gay men, the zodiac is another thing that is super popular with females and gay men. I remember once a guy friend told me: "An easy way to tell if a guy is gay is to see if he follows the Zodiac and shit like that".

Just use common sense guys, be assertive but not violent. It is not rocket science.

@mivafofa The thing is that guys believe that girls actually want to fuck them but will pretend like they do not want to so they wont look like a slut or easy. That is why guys are taught to push for sex until they get a hard NO. Honestly if a guy did not push for sex at all his success rate would decrease dramatically. If a girl says like hmmm i dont know, maybe im not feeling ready etc that to me is not a hard no. A hard is no is exactly what it implies. NO!!!

@mivafofa Well there is a fine line between "hard to fuck" and "rape". As a guy you have to be a hard closer otherwise you will miss a lot of girls. Even Leo advises it, however there is a big difference between rape and pushing for sex. Often girls have these anti slut shields which you can break and then have sex with her. Rape in my book is if the girl gives you a super hard NO. You do not need to be a genious to tell if a girl wants to fuck you and is playing hard to fuck or legit does not want to and proceding would be basically raping her. I think a lot of these cases happen because either people are drunk or the guy is a complete moron.

This is the standard females should have regarding awareness of what they like. This kind of stuff should have views. One of the few females i have seen both online and in real life that ACTUALLY understands this shit. Very honest and objective. The first blind spot is arguably the biggest one. A must watch for you ladies on this forumn and arguably guys too.

@mivafofa How can male friends rape you? Those are not friends. Unless you are both super drunk and the girl has been leading you on then there is no way that can happen. Screen your friends better, guys that would do that to a female friends are pieces of shit.

@Preety_India Sick shit, that is pure sadism not even sociopath.

@Preety_India :'((((( I do not understand why men rape, if they are so sexually frustrated then get a hooker or something. Maybe they like the idea of having power over someone? Society should try to eliminate the rape problem, it is really a pain in the ass for most females.

Is rape common where you women live?

@Emerald Exactly, i dont know why Leo and other people here advocate it. Sure it can work but is it worth the hassle and hatred you get from it? Plus it does not show real confidence or authenticity which apparently is what matters the most

@Hulia Yes that is what i think too. That is why i never considered it as a positive thing unless the girl is being a bitch and you stand up for yourself. You can be confident and charismatic and cool and fun without being cocky.