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@Preety_India I have two questions. Firstly why is rice specifically bad? Secondly, how can i replace rice in terms of energy and calories. If i just eat protein and veggies i will starve myself, tried it. Felt malnurished.

Also another guy from Brazil said the same about Swedish guys. I have talked with a lot of people and this is an overall conclusion. Westerns, at least germans and belgians are more introverted and shy and reserved than lets say americans or spanish. It does not neccesarily mean they are worse or lesser but this is the trend (of course there are exceptions). In these cultures it is super normal to go to parties and get drunk. This is how they socialize, especially when young. When they are drunk they are much more outgoing and that is why they approached you. If same people would approach you sober they would be much less confident and talktive. I have interacted with people from these areas when they were drunk and then later met them sober. It is scary how different they were, they barely talked when sober. Most of the sex that happens in these countries is either from social circle or from parties where everyone is drunk. This is not just a guy thing. Overall people in northen western countries are more reserved than southern europeans or americans for example. Cultural differences.

@RendHeaven An attack on titan video on this forumn. love itttttt

@Preety_India Sure, some guys are naturals. Many are not. Also it really depends where you live. I have experienced both eastern and western europe and the difference is huge. Western guys are a lot more shy, needy, weak and lame and hence they need pick up more. You live in India so i assume indian guys are stronger than western guys. You can find a good guy that has some charm. Not hard at all. If you live in a place where most guys are charming then it should be easy to find one that is both charming and self developed. A kind guy will not be able to attract but it is easy to build good relationships with him. A pua attracts and fucks girls easily but due to his nature it is hard for him to keep them. A kind caring guy will tend to be usually also submissive (no attraction), but that behaviour makes it easy to keep a relationship together and act responsible if he magically gets it. Your posts tend to critize men a lot. I am referring in general. You clearly have some issues with guys survival agenda and i do not blame you for it. I also am annoyed by the female agenda sometimes. My bad, i apologize. Wise women are attracted to kind men would be a better statement.

A healthy conscious women will not get attracted to that good man to beggin with if being good is all he offers. If you give her some love potion then sure, otherwise that good man will be left with his dick in his hand. Why should a man be a good man when he will not get a girlfriend at all? Better for him to learn attraction and do some PUA shit and get a girlfriend. However if he becomes so good with girls why should be only be with 1 girl when he can sleep around and have fun. This would be easily solved if girls were attracted to kindness instead of that PUA shit however the world does not work like that, and me asking this is selfish biased opinion. At least i am aware that it is selfish.

That advice is useless if you cannot get a girl in the first place. You make it seem as the hard work is the relationship while the easy part is the attraction. For guys it is the opposite, we rarely need relatiobship advice,especially those that do some sort of personal development. You think people here will become abuse, manipulative and cruel once they are with someone? The biggest struggle is to get them in the first place. Hence pick up advice is all they really need. Then do not complain about guys because guys need the opposite of that advice. Sure, but do not shame guys about getting their agenda met. That is all guys care about. If you want to call guys out it will not work. They will not care. You are targeting guys here.

His advice has helped people get more sex. Where am i supposed to get advice? I have watched other sources like RSD, they are not much better. I have talked with more females than you can fanthom. I have talked with successful guys with girls too. These patterns are very clear to see. Even most guys in this forumn would agree with me. Girls dating advice is usually catered from the female POV which is not suitable for guys. This is not advice on how to keep a relationship. This is advice on how to get a girl to see you as something more than a good guy, to see you sexually. To get her attracted to you. Most guys struggle with this part, not with relationships. Well i applied your "good guy definitions" for 22 years and no girl was attracted to that. ZERO. Only like 2 of them were and it was just because they initially found me very physically attractive, once i started to act as you wrote there they got turned off. A guy friend of mine used to have a clear linear relationship with how kind he was. The kinder he was, the more rejected he got. To the girls where he acted like an alpha ruthless person he got the girl, when he acted nice and kind he got friendzoned or rejected. Usually that guys watch these sort of advice have already tried female advice, failed and now look into it. Most of them get results after some trying so it does work. Leo is another example that we are all familiar with.

Probably. I think he used to do it in the past. I have seen way too much infields and proof of him living with girls to call them prostitutes. I am sure there is some ploy bs here but overall he has banged a lot of girls, more than 99.99 percent of guys. Even if his laycount is inflated by 90 percent as Leo says, 140 girls is more than most guys out there. With that logic every dating coach hires prostitutes. You think RSD is any better lol. They re all bunch of scumbags that get laid a lot. Yes. That is rougly overwhealming majority of girls pre 25 in western countries. RSD also gives advice like this too. They re all similar even though they claim they re all special and different. Main principles are the same, and lack of giving shits about the girls follows all. If these guys with these attitudes were virgins then i would believe their advice. The fact that they teach guys how to get laid and those guys get results is proof that their shit works. I am not picking on anyone here, all same principles for most part.

@Gesundheit2 Exactly. Reading shit like that just enforces the belief that most females are clueless. Look @Preety_India That advice mighttt work if someone wants to date you but overall it will not work for most girls at all. It will just result in friendzone or rejection. Not everyone is as self developed as you are so please do not give guys advice that works for 1 percent of girls. Watch the video i just sent, that guy has advice that actually works for 99 percent of girls. Whether you like it or not

Lol you people complain about guys all you want meanwhile look who girls are banging This is the mindset of a guy that actually sleeps with a lot of girl. No niceness, no empathy, none of that bullshit. This is what girls reward.

I have personally tried this and it never worked for me. I did not try it as a dating strategy, just i have a shit lot of female friends, some quite attractive but none of them got into me or considered dating me even when we became close. It is the typical, i love as you as a person and i enjoy spending time with you but i am not attracted to you nor see you that way. It used to bother me a lot because i felt like there was something wrong with me but once i learned some attraction theory i stopped caring that much. So for most guys just hit on girls if you want a partner. I have seen sometimes friends becoming lovers but it is quite rare and if it fails it will break your heart.

Toxic pick up is about body count and how hot the girl is. Positive pick up is about how much your skills improve regarding attracting girls. You can use pick up to get a cool girlfriend that normally you would not be able to get. Normal people do not approach a lot of girls, do not know attraction theory, do not act dating like fishing with a net instead of with a hook. Normal people just get obsessed with 1 girl while pick up you talk to multiple girls.

@Tangerinedream 1. Not going for girls with boyfriends/husbands 2. Lying as little as possible. 3. Not pumping and dumping girls 4. Avoiding harems (dating multiple girls at the same time) 5. Avoiding being overly pushy to the point where it becomes harrasement 6. Not calling girls bitches and sluts if they reject you 7. Caring about the female agenda in terms of caring about how life. 8. Avoiding dread game These should do it.

@NoSelfSelf Yeah women also naturally should be perfectly hot. BULLSHIT. Both sexes try to maximize their attractivness, it is just done in different ways. Nothing natural about make up, shaving, working out etc however girls do it to make themselves more likely to find someone. Why should not guys do the same?

Interesting that when men are given tools to make themselves more attractive to girls, girls get angry about it while wanting that guy pickup creates. Meanwhile men love women who try to make themselves more attractive.

Just let guys do pick up in a responsible way and stop crying about it. Problem solved.

The phenomenon does exist. It is not bullshit. Asian countries have a lot of influence from the US and therefore they are seen as higher status and overall "superior". This cultural conditioning does affect the fact that whites are considered as more attractive and higher status than asian guys. Basically they are seen as better fitting a woman survival agenda on a biological level. Most of it is cultural with a bit of biological elements on it (whites tend to be taller, larger penis size and more masculine faces). Most of it is cultural though. HOWEVER, it does not mean you are fucked as an asian. I know many asian guys with white girlfriends so it is not an excuse. Same for being short, same for being indian, same for being bald, same for being whatever. The downsides are real but they are overblown out of proportion imo. Just talk to girls as Leo says, it should solve the problem.

You will almost never have a girl be in a situation where she feels like nobody wants her. If she takes basic basiccc care of herself then she will always have some options. Whether she considered those options its on her. The boy that cries to her mom is not getting liked by ANYONE, not just by who he likes. Big nuance here. Another example: I can get some bread but i want a cake versus i cannot get ANY food.

@Gabith 5/10 for me. Of course it is relative. @Thought Art I never said looks do not matter. I said it is threashhold thing.

@LastThursday You take for granted how hard it is for some people to "openly flirt and advertise yourself". For some it is super difficult and needs 15 different limiting beliefs getting tackled. Imagine you think you re a shity boring weak ugly guy, you will not have the guts to even flirt with her. Imagine being super shy, you will not have the guts to even look her in the eye yet alone create sexual tension. Pick up is a last resort for such people.

@Tangerinedream Female friends are very healthy to have and i personally have a lot of them however they will not help you get laid most of the time. Translations from friends to girlfriends are quite rare and messy processes that cause a lot of pain. Not a good idea. Trust me, i have tried it and also many of my friends have tried it. The success rate is crazy low and almost always involves a shit lot of pain. You might say the success rate of pick up is very low and it can be difficult too. True, however you gain a skill set that is priceless. Also i notice that female friends tend to make guys quite weak and soft. Not good for attraction to be weak and soft. It should be balanced between guy and female friends. Too much guy friends is also bad imo because then you will objectify women or treat them as species from another planet. I think best strategy to date is to talk to girls for a bit of time and then try to date them. Does not have to be pick up but pick up is most conveninent for people post college. Pick up= talking to a girl you do not know, if you vibe well then go on a date with her, if date goes well then you have sex/start relationship. This is healthy pick up. No need to be evil.

All females that do not like pick up, ask yourselves this. How would you feel if you had a son and one day he comes home very upset. You try to get him to talk but he just says everything is okay. Eventually, he tells you crying that every time he likes someone they do not like him back and even though he is a kind respectful person no girl seems to be interested in him. I feel unlovable, like something is wrong with me he says. How would you feel if your son told you that? Pick up may have a lot of devilrly in it for sure, but it is the only realistic solution to fix this problem. The issue is not pick up per say, it is conscious versus devilry pick up. Big nuanced difference.

@Leo Gura The biggest issue with the blackpill is not that you will not talk to girls. It is that you will talk to girls but you will not flirt or do anything sexual with them. I suffered from this a long time, i felt unable to flirt because "flirting=i want to date you= i am making it clear that i am interested in you, therefore how can a girl date such an average looking guy". That is how i used to think when i was blackpilled. My inner game was shit which made it impossible to even BOTHER flirting or doing anything non platonic. You are making it as the biggest issue of the whole inceldom is the lack of talking to girls, i respectfully dissagree. To me it is the horrible inner game you will have which results in you not making any moves. Why do you think this whole friendzone epidemic is even a thing these days. The amount of videos on youtube about the friendzone is quite sadly high. All happens because guys do not flirt nor show intent, why? Because they think they are not enough. The blackpill is amaizing at creating such believes in guys. Approaching 5000 girls is not as hard as it is to flirt with 100 girls. You can approach girls and not flirt with them and just make it platonic, if you are social person that will probably be the case unless you push yourself. The emotional difficulty of pushing yourself is regarding flirting, not talking to girls. Talking to girls is really easy as long as it is not done in a super weird manner like stopping them on the street (daygameish).

@Lucas-fgm Nuance pleaseeeeeeeeeeee. I did not say i do not care at all, i said it is a THREASHHOLD THING!! Meaning after a certain level they are not that important anymore. For me over a 5/10 it does not matter much anymore. You can be attracted to an okay looking girl, also females are not just attractive because of how they look. Vibe, personality etc can make you attracted to them. Yes, sure if you talk to them in a bar then that will not happen but if you talk to a girl from time to time, her personality will draw you in. Happened to me more than once. If i feel insecure about my appearance i will not be able to flirt or pull or do anything non platonic. I tried it and couldnt. Now with this new mindset i automatically became more flirty.

Btw opener, i also have an interesting partial solution to the blackpill problem. I kind of found it myself based on basic self development work. Read this