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@Preety_India Yeah makes sense, i only asked because Mystery Method and John Anthony lifestyle promote DHV a lot and those two have like 300 and 1300 laycounts specifically. Insane numbers, so i thought maybe DHV work better than the RSD stuff since i doubt RSD have such insane high laycounts. Your and Leo's arguments make sense to me.

@knakoo It is a good video however that is about being like overly nice and fake nice. We are talking about genouine niceness so when you are nice and kind because that is who you are, not to get sex. You should be nice and kind because that is who you are, not because it would get you girls. Personally i have no issues with being nice and kind and not getting extra points towards getting laid, it is an issue when being GENOUINE nice actually reduces your chances and you are forced to become an arrogant selfish dick. IMO you should not become an arrogant selfish dick if that is not who you are authentically just to get laid. Your realness is more important.

@Leo Gura True words, a thing which can be fixed only through experience. Meditation will not work with this one. Abudance is needed to cure it. Similar to having friends, once you burn through that social karma neediness tends to be removed quite a lot. Also regarding the struggles of girls except the 3 i mentioned which can be easily avoided by dating normies over players (getting pumped and dumped, dumped for younger/hotter girls and abused) are there any others? Would be quite curious to know.

When you work on yourself and still denied love from girls it can make you a bit bitter in these situations. I can assure you in normal life i am a lot more positive and uplifiting, usually my toxicity comes about in forums in threads like these. I actively try not to influence my real life

Thank you very much for your replies. Very in detail and useful

@Jacob Morres Good! This is the sort of wisdom people should have in dating. Not go for people based on chimp brain monkey feelings. If people had the same dumbness when picking food as they do when picking partners then it would be called America. hahahahhahaha

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura Getting pumped and dumped by players is not a challenge in my book. Stay away from players and you will not get abused nor pumped and dumped nor dumped for younger/hotter girls. Problem solved. I tell guys all the time to avoid spoiled bitchy hot girls and not just go for pure looks so same logic applies for guys too. Be selective and not go for pure animalistic attraction like a fucking moron and then complain when you get burned. Have some wisdom on who you choose to date, this applies for both sexes in different ways. If there are other issues you can maybe explain them instead of being obtuse about it. Maybe a short thread because most guys here unfortunately are too self biased to see it. I remember you mentioning being abused, pumped and dumped and dumped for younger girls. In the domain of dating that is. If you go outside of dating then yeah it is another story and it is fucked up (fear of rape, giving birth, periods, emotional flunctuations, etc).

@Lucas-fgm I agree with you. Guys sexality is equally fucked up and shallow. The only thing which i believe frustrates guys a lot is that females since young are properly told what guys like. Meanwhile guys are not taught properly at all what females like. Just see what females in this self development forumn say, they deny all and say females want good kind guys. Imagine being raised all your life believing you should act X way and then that whole reality crumbling when you actually start applying X and also getting a couple of hard heartbreaks from it. If guys were properly taught what attracts females from a young age like females are properly taught what guys like then there would be no need for such threads. A second reason is that due to comfort life these days guys have become soft and lost side with their more ruthless part. Basically creating stage red shadows, which makes them meek and weak. In the past life developed you properly to be a strong man due to how brutal it was, these days guys need to do that work themselves in a society that heavily discourages them to do so. You are basically going against the wind and it is difficult process. People do not like to do difficult things hence they complain.

@Leo Gura Thing is women have it as easy to get a relationship as it is to get sex. Women get proposed by guys all the time to be their girlfriend, not seduces to sex by some creep. Most girls have no issue getting a boyfriend to commit to them as long as that guy is not some player kind of personna that is too rare to consider. It is true that guys value sex a lot more than girls do however usually they will propose to a girl they like in some way so the girl has no issue getting a guy as a partner. At least pre 30 this is how it happens. Only thing is that girls only consider like top 10 percent of guys worthy of them so all those offers they get are turned down and when that 1/100 guy ignores them they get depressed and upset. Seen this shit with so many feamles in my life it is not even funny.

I notcied within my circle and people i interact with that when it comes to dating guys have legit 0 standards. They are willing to get and settle for anything they can get and basically give all their power to women just to get something. I understand you should not be super picky but at least have common basic values and things you screen the other person on. Quite sad.

@Etherial Cat Perhaps i should post a video made by Leo who we all tend to respect. 5000 approaches and 2 years of trying to get better with girls, interacting with a lot of successful guys with girls and this is the wisdom he shares with us. I would reccomend to watch with an open mind, and for once be truly honest with yourself about what you desire. No one will judge you for it.

This kind of thread again Girls do not like nice guys because nice guys are weak. Women reward strenght not kindness. It is not about being a bad person, it is about being strong. Strong and ruthless if needed. Think of a ancient warrior, that is what girls like. They will of course deny it because it is not ethical in today's world to be rewarded by that behaviour but in reality girls reward it. My advice: Integrate stage red in a healthy way in spiral dynamics. Stage red might be the most important stage in order to improve your chances with girls and most guys these days suck at it. This is the kind of self awareness and honesty i would expect from females in this group. Not the garbage that females respond with to rationalize their fantasies.

@Windappreciator I live close to germany, same shit for us too. I love when americans here make the whole world seem super social and open like murica is, far from the truth.

@Preety_India If a woman is toxic to me she will be deported from my life asap. I value peace in my life more than anything else, if a woman fails to do that by being an obnixious neurotic person than i have no reason to keep her in my life. I have been rejected enough at this point to be able to remove someone i may have feelings for if i see this person is not a match for me. Rejection makes you strong and able to cope with losss. Thank you for wishing good for me though, it is nice from you

He is in my opinion the best channel regarding the blackpill. He tends to be more pessimistic than the typical PUA or red pill guy but much more positive than the typical blackpiller. He downright says that if you are more than a 3/10 you can get girls if you improve yourself. Honestly that is more accurate than the bullshit "looks dont matter at all" stuff that some people say. Basically if you maximize your looks, most guys will be at least a 4/10 or higher and therefore they can get laid according to this channel. The only thing i dissagree with him is that he says that age hurts your dating chances which in my opinion, a man is at his peak around 35, not 25. If you are super insecure and hate your appearance then yeah do not watch him, you need a lot of super positive stuff. If you are mature and love yourself as you are than you can for sure watch his content. It is relatively realistic, especially for a blackpill channel.

@Leo Gura Mad respect for the willpower. I feel like most guys would have given up after like 200 apparoches without results. You should make a video just explaining how you managed to get the willpower and motivation to approach 439 girls without results and still going for it without giving up hope

@Leo Gura Man, i never trust girls if i ask them why they go to clubs. When i say this i do not say it from asking girls, i say it after i see how downright annoyed girls are after being approached by guys in clubs and how they complain that they just want to be left alone to have fun with their friends. I also see how unwilling they are to get approached especially when they are in a group. I used to believe that girls go to clubs with the purpose of fucking but after going to clubs myself i think they go to clubs to have fun with friends and if some top 5 percent guy comes to them they will leave their friends for that guy. Also you tend to ignore culture and the place at hand. Different countries have different cultures, Las Vegas for example is known to be full of girls wanting to casually fuck and it is super liberal city. Also american girls are super open relative to european girls. I have interacted with both a lot and there is a huge difference between the two. If drunk then yeah everyone is a social butterfly. The biggest introvert will become RSD Tyler if properly drunk. Of course you should approach and not use location as an excuse but i am just clarifying it.

@Leo Gura Most girls these days go to bars and clubs to have fun with their friends not to find partners or people to fuck. We are in the digital age now, girls have enough sources to meet people from social circle, work/school and online dating. I do not know 1 single girl that goes to bars and clubs to meet people or find partners, it is just to unwind with people they already know. Of course you can talk to them and try to do something but the notion that clubs/bars are places where people go to meet people is long dead. At least for girls it is. Plenty of horny drunk guys still and will always hit on girls on bars/clubs. Much on the annoyance of girls that always complain about it. . Exceptions would be parties organised by a specific organisation/events and social gatherings like a football match.

Toxic femininity would be a feminine girl that uses her charm to manipulate using sexual flirting and stuff like that. Also toxic femininity can be an overly emotional, almost neurotic behaviour in women or extreme neediness. To basically see what toxic "insert" is use this simple formula: Read the main characteristics of femininity or masculinity. Then take the characteristics and think of the most unhealthy manifestation of that characteristic. TA DA, there ya go. Masculine characteristic: Dominant, when taken too far can become down right abuse dictator. Simple example of toxic masculinity. Feminine characteristic: Emotional, when taken too far can become down right neurotic uncontrollable force of nature. Simple example of toxic femininity. However most guys do not suffer from toxic femininity like females suffer from toxic masculinity. The first reason is because guys are a bit more visual so they are not attracted to toxic behaviour the same way females are attracted to. The biggest issue is overly picky girls that have other worldy standards, that is biggest issue females create. Toxic femininity comes way below as an issue.

@StarStruck @bazera The current RSD videos i dont like at all. Aside from a few they re too soft and political correct imo. You will not benefit a lot from them. Google “actualized forum rsd deleted videos”, you will find a thread where someone posts a link with old deleted rsd videos. See them, those are 10 times better than the ones on youtube rn. Idk why they were deleted tbh, a big waste. Im currently binging some of them and i find them quite good

@Leo Gura Actually i seriously lack in the man to woman communication. I lack to some extent to leading although i do it but for very basic things like arranging where to go, sit here shit like that. I am not bad at all at handling logistics though. I have managed more than once to get a girl to come to my place and legit have her sit next to me and make it seem relatively natural. The issue is that due to the lack of man to woman communication beforehand i just came off as a friend and making moves would be extremly out of place. Not being man to woman is the biggest issue to getting girls in my opinion after not socializing and neediness. PS: these girls i did not meet from pick up, just from being social and interacting with people in my life. Regarinf logistics: Handling logicistics might be a nightmare in a same day pull or club pickup however in more everyday life social interactions it is a lot easier. "Let's come for a drink at this bar, oops it happens to be next to my place. Btw i will show you my place i got a new cool souvenir or i pay so little for it but its soo good haha. Oops we are at my place now. Hey, i will show you this video while we chill in my room, Oops you are sitting next to me now. Not rocket science at all. The issue is getting the ATTRACTION for all this shit to actually work, if you make a move without attraction it is just a friendly meeting and going for a kiss will be super out of place.

Leo has a good point here OP. In school you can interact with people easily so no need for actual pick up. Just be active, join groups and shit and try to be as social as possible. I developed my social skills A LOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT in high school, especially the third year of it and am i grateful to this day for it. At your age you can learn super fast so no need to force much outside the initial act of taking iniciative to socialize. The rest will happen pretty naturally. You should continue this in college also. I do not advise to become overly social if that is not your personality, however some decent social skills are kind of necessary to succed in life. Find a good balance just like in everything else. VERY IMPORTANT TIP: When you interact with someone new, do not see the interaction in terms of making a new friend, see it in terms of getting 1 hour of more practice in socializing with new people. Might happen that some people will not really want to hang out with you or have conflicting friends groups/different schedules etc. In these cases never go and say to yourself: "I wasted 1 hour socializing with someone i will not really be friends with or hang out with". NO NO NO NO, you did 1 hour of practice in the skill of socializing. You should be proud of it. You made a small improvement

@Leo Gura Actually you can be those things and still not get girls. What i lack which i did not write there is flirty, sexual vibe, sexual everything. You can be playful and make jokes without doing anything sexual which is my problem. I make girls laugh and create playful illogical vibes but no wettnes from the girl :'( . I also do not make legit moves, i may lead in terms of picking places to meet, suggesting meetings and the small "come here" kind of stuff, some touching etc but i never go for strong sexual movements. So yeah you can have those things i wrote and not get girls I have a small bias because the people i have met in my life that had those traits did more devilry than the rest of people i knew. May be just me strawmaning for sure, who knows.

@Leo Gura So if i want to become attractive to girls i need to reduce my integrity and self actualization? Selfishness, arrogance and cockyness show juvenile, insecure and low consciousness behavior. When i talk to girls i act funny self secure positive uplifting independent and playful. I am also humble, down to earth and try to lead in a positive healthy way. If i am confident in myselt i see no reason to act arrogant, arrogance to see shows insecurity and shallow “confidence”. It is extremly unatural to me. Same with cockyness. You can lead without being cocky. Is this behaviour considered high value?

@Leo Gura Is arrogance, cockyness and selfishness considered high value?