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@Leo Gura May i ask how is it that most guys do like 100 approaches in their entire lifetimes and still manage to get laid/find girlfriends/wives etc if 200 is soo low to even get a girlfriend once? I do not see 99 percent of guys doing 1000 approaches and still they have some degree of success, some more/some less but all can at least find a partner at some point. This is what makes me bit skeptical of the neccesaty of 2000 approaches. I mean none of my friends have done it and still they all got 1 girlfriend at least. They are relatively social and do not suck with girls though so i guess 2000 approaches are needed if you tend to suck with girls/ or not social person at all.

@Emerald You mistake intent. I did not say not to flirt, i said not to play coy. By that i mean not playing games, "dont text him for 4 hours" or "appear like you are not interested", and all of that shit. Flirting is indeed fun but when girls start testing you and doing power struggles/frame wars and all of that shit then it is super annoying. Young girls do this A LOT. It honestly made me uninterested in dating for many years because i do not have nerve to play silly games.

One example of stage-green mob justice going too far and being just retarted. Quite sad in my opinion. Stage green excess is not as bad as blue or orange for sure but it can still damage you. Calling someone sexist and racist for no reason. PS: PLEASE watch the whole video before deciding to comment on this post.

Great video i found from a good youtuber i watch. This is what i would consider stage green dating coach, his results are probably not as good as some of the more manipulative PUAs but overall seems more developed person. He also called Trump an insecure child

@something_else What about "wow this guy is smart and knows so much shit, he seems wise and mature and also has goals/ambition/goals and works hard towards them". Is not this attractive for girls?

@Leo Gura Psychadelics could be used to reform incels just as well as they reform heroin addicts. Endless potential here!! @Onecirrus Amazing story man! Thank you for the explaination. I am curious about two things. First, what is Luci, i did not understand. Secondly, do you try to make friends or also attract girls?

Could you please elbabore a bit more, especially the LSD part? Also where exactly have you been going out and how are you making friends? Your story seems very interesting.

@Etherial Cat Ok, i stand corrected. I use them a bit interchangibly. Change submissive with receptivity and surrender. In my home blue country they seem much healthier than western marriages, maybe middle east is different since my country is from eastern europe. I do not know tbh, i just used my personal experience. Agreed, just tell a female that females are more intuitive and emotional while guys are more logical and pragmatic. They will be offended and say something like : "so you are saying i am less intelligent"? A huge bias we have towards logical while ignoring things like intuition. Sad imo. There is 0 reason why logic is superior to intuition or emotional intelligence yet most people including females believe it so. This is mostly a stage orange issue in general imo than a gender issue, it will be corrected as society moves towards green. I feel like in corporate environements there are plenty of female workers. Keep in mind females also make kids and tend to be more involved in raising them so they cannot do an insane 80 hour workweek like top managers do in most firms, not because they will not be chosen but simply because they do not want to. Marriage age for females has already increased a lot in the west mostly because females have become more career driven. So i think this stuff is moving towards the direction you desire. However if you have a female that is absent from home 24/7 because she works all day it will hurt the child more than if the husband does it. Might be sexist for some but i really believe a child needs a mother more than a father especially on the first years of his life.

@something_else Any ideas how to do this?

@something_else It is not. I just prefer it personally. Around 70 percent of the time or so, the rest you fuck around and make jokes. Totally agreed, however i do not like much the way it is done. Acting like a goofball all the time. You can make jokes and tease without being a goofball. This is much better imo than being a goofball. There is actual meaning to the conversation, not just bullshit empty talk that makes no sense yet there is flirting and tension.

@something_else Social skills are good to have but this "small talk be random and illogical" in conversations seems so pointless to me. I put effort into developing it and made progress and it is somewhat fun but when i think about it it seems so stupid. I prefer intellectual stimulating stuff more than just "illogical dumb shit". Before you come here roasting me, i am doing it regardless and it is somewhat fun but i find it in principle unecessary. You can make jokes without being a goofball. I do not see how being a goofball would aid a female survival either.

@ertopolice He got lucky with you. Most quiet intellectual guys get completly overlooked by women. Wish more girls gave such guys a chance . Respect to you.

Scary how much looks will change the way society percieves you. That guy became a sex symbol even though he is a criminal. Disgusting!!!!

@ertopolice How did you generate your attraction towards him? Was it just because of how he looked? I am curious

Nothing is gained by playing coy, if he is a non-judgemental developed guy he will not judge her for being "sluty" or "easy" or anything like that. If she likes him no reason to play coy, it just wastes both parties time. Maybe she should just make it bit more clear that is she interested in him and if he is too something will happen. If he is is not then they can part ways. More simple then playing coy games dont you think?

@Knowledge Hoarder The whole industry seems a circus to me, bunch of scumbags calling other scumbags. I do not take anything they say with full trust, however they are helpful if you are clueless about this stuff i guess. You do not need to buy products, there is enough free shit as it is.

I notice two big trends in the PUA community. The first is demonstration of higher value which is popular with Mystery Method and John Anthony Lifestyle. It's premise is that you convey higher value to the girl by showing elements of yourself. An example would be if you are a DJ (popular with john anthony), or you own a company, you travel a lot, are good at weightlifting etc. This is done in a way that conveys value and makes you seem as a cool high value guy in her eyes. "Natural game" is often popularized by RSD Tyler and it is basically about self-amusement and just being fun and playful. It is not about conveying yourself as a cool high value guy in terms of tangible things but more on a "proving fun and humour". A simple example would be conveying you do a lot of cool shit and are an important person versus making jokes and being playful and goofy. Which one do you think is better, especially for beginners? This is what i mean.

@Emerald Give us an example of "attractive masculinity" then.

@JJfromSwitzerland I do not care about motives, i care about what works and what gives me results as long as it is obviously legal. You cannot tell a starving man to do "ethical" business when he just needs some food to survive. So regarding dating i am 100 percent pragmatic. If it works, it works. Dot. My only rule is not to hit on girls with partners or bf because i personally find it very lame but i see no issue with convincing her to sleep with you and plowing through her objections. If you have to do some white lies, so be it. Girls dont think twice about ruthlessly stepping on you if it fits their agenda.

I would like to ask whether rice is healthy neutral or unhealthy for you I have read posts here about how eleminating carbs is good etc etc and i agree 100 percent when it comes to wheat due to gluten. Gluten is not healthy at all and causes a lot of issues. However, when it comes to rice what is the problem? Japan for example or south korea eat rice with every meal and people there are quite thin and the life expectancy is very very high. Not only that but they are also really healthy and fit all their lives. You have 70 year olds in Japan still working hard while in America for example they have less energy. I feel like there is big difference between wheat and rice regarding health and they should not be all packed together into "carbs" group and demonized. Personally i am quite young, 22 year old and therefore cannot tell much difference in how i feel. I can say that rice, especially white rice digests a lot faster and overall is lighter to eat. That is about it, however the issues rise up after 35 or so, therefore my direct experience here is a bit irrelevant. I would like your opinions because i plan to eliminate wheat as much as i can and to replace it to some extent with rice and somtimes with potatos (mostly rice though). Also, i workout and have a fast metabolism, therefore weight gain is something which is not an issue, actually it is something i embrace sometimes.

@Windappreciator Sorry, i did not mean to be rude.

@Windappreciator If the "west" had develop out of biological evolution then they would not be 40 percent overweight because they are addicted to salt, fat and sugar.

@snowyowl You can be successful and still be feminine and submissive in the household. Strong and independent outside, girly sweet and submissive in home. Integrate both. Same for guys.

@Leo Gura When you are a sociopath it gives you a boost regardless of what you do. It is not that DHV game is for sociopath and "natural game" is for non sociopaths. Besides that a lot of PUAs have sociopathic tendencies to some extent. Anyway this is an old post that got clarified, idk why it got opened up again.

@Windappreciator This is biological not cultural. Unless you evolve biologically then you are stuck being this way. It would be nice if people could evolve out of being naturally inclinced to like sugar salt and fat but here we are.