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@Leo Gura By unaware i meant they will say they want one thing but actually respond to another. Guys for example are very clear and open that they like hot girls, nice butt, nice tits etc. If asked they will all openlly admit it and they are relatively correct. If asked for personality most will say they also like a chill, sweet girl. So what they say and what they respond to is mostly aligned (there are exceptions ofc). Meanwhile if you ask girls they will not say they want a detached strong assertive guy. They will say they want a nice guy that will treat them like a princess (most often). Why this gap between what they say they want and what they actually respond to.

May i ask why girls are so unconscious and unaware about what they actually are attracted to compared to guys. Not saying all guys who exactly what they want but i tend to find it a lot more accurate than girls.

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@Leo Gura You always did one of these things or they re just other options? Especially for normal clubs, not elite level clubs. How do you open girls waiting in line or going in the club to let you join them?

Ok thanks guys. And if i try to go early will that increase my chances? So before there is a big line and stuff? @Chives99 I am from the balkans studying in western europe :).

It is quite messed up that a female can be high consciouss and very attractive to guys while for guys they need to make a compromise between being very attractive to girls and a high consciouss person. I almost fucked a girl recently (shit logistics) and i noticed how easier it was to actually make her get into me and fuck her if i gave 0 shits about her or her agenda. Scary stuff.

Hey, so i will make an online dating account and would be curious to know if someone here has experience about it and knows this stuff. Thank you for your time!

I need to clarify, i am talking about Tinder here. I use around 3 pictures of me and 1 with friends. The ones of me are with a professional camera and good quality. Is this enough?

I do not trust photofeeler. I got 9/10 ratings for my pics there and still my results sucked.

You re soo sweet and tolerant and nice, i wish more girls were like you. In my opinion if he does not text you to meet up it means he is not really interested. If you asked him out the first time it means he should ask you now. However do not properly ask him out, just text him and see what is going on with him. Reach out to him. If he is interested he will suggest for you guys to meet and then you can set up a date. Maybe find a reason to text him. That is how most girls operate, they just "randomly" fly into your orbit and give you a clear shot to propose a meeting. If you meet him again, try to touch him a bit and get close to him. Maybe suggest to sit in a couch or something idk. If he is receptive then it means he is interested. Some guys are shy to kiss girls first (me included until recently) so kissing the guy first is okay in my opinion. Not every guy is bold. Now if the concept of you kissing him turns you off then okay but if you are cool with it then go ahead. Just make sure he is into you before you do it. Flirt a lot and shit. Maybe he is playing hard to get or has read some bs dating advice from the internet and is playing games. You never know.

@Whitesnow Using statistics is silly for this. Looks are more of a threshhold thing than anything else. It does not matter how attractie you are once you reach that threashhold. So if a girl sees me as a 5/10 i can get her, if she sees me as a 9/10 i can get her. If she sees me as a 3/10 then i cannot get her. Simple as that. Girls have different types so if you talk to a lot some of them will see you as a 5/10 or higher. What is interesting is that the attractivness of the girl does not affect how she sees you. So if you are a normal looking guy, a hot girl can find you more handsome than an ugly girl. All can happen. Personally i would say 2/3 of the girls that have been into me were above average looking according to most of society standards. Some were legit more attractive than my physically. I still messed up those chances cuz my game totally sucked. Unless you look like a legit model looks will help you but you will need some level of game. Rule of thumb: The better looking you are, the less game you need. HOWEVER some game is ALWAYS needed. You cannot escape learning it. Just if you look nice you will need a lesser level of game. So a 8/10 will need okay game to do just as well as a 5/10 with great game. However the 5/10 can reach or even surpass the 8/10 if he works on his game.

@Leo Gura So can an introverted guy with a small circle of close friends match an extroverted girl with a lot of freinds and stuff? I am not talking about instagram models here. Assuming the guy is good in bed, has decent game and they also do things like travelling, varied dates etc.

@Leo Gura What if your lifestyle is fullfulling to you but not very fancy. So you have some cool friends, you travel a bit, live in a decent place etc but nothing crazy like doing a job where you get to travel super often or a job with high social status where you meet a lot of cool people etc. Are these things necessary if you have game?

@Leo Gura I plan to do it thursday, saturday and sunday afternoons and sometimes during the day wheneveri can. The ideal would be 10 girls per session totalling to around 30 a week. 120 a month. Will probably make some update threads on the couple of months. I am terrified and excicted at the same time haha.

@Leo Gura Thank you! Which places did you personally use ? Personally i am into parks and malls and maybe on wide boulevard type streets. Squares are good too, even though half the people are just tourists.

@Leo Gura No i want to get better with girls specifically. I already have friends and it is very easy for me to be likable and make friends but i want basically to get better with girls. I want to talk to a lot of new girls basically. Your advice "Go out and talk to girls", well that is basically what i want to do. However i want to do it in a way and manner that suits me and day game really suits me. Bars could also work but most girls my age do not really go to bars much and i often see them with big groups and stuff. In malls and parks it is more chill. So i will start with that first. Maybe i will also include bars eventually but as a start i want to try parks and malls.

@Leo Gura Would you reccomend daygame at the mall or at parks? I want to give it a try, especially at parks, it suits me for some reason. Keep in mind, i do not care much about how hot the girl is, i just want to improve my skills and talk to them. What opener would you reccomend for a beginner regarding daygame?

@Leo Gura So girls are basically retarted, that is what you are saying. Trust is based on integrity, honesty and good will. For us guys it works like this. I am sure you are correct but it makes girls seem extremly shallow and stupid when you say it like this. No wonder guys just say: girls are so emotional and should not be given positions of power.

Guys can we all stop with this bullshit nice guy, bad boy discussion between guys and girls. It is really getting old! I have been on this forum for over 1 year now and i see this discussion every few threads between the two genders. I admit it, i have also taken part on it but now i realize each side thinks what they think and that's it. Nothing will change. How about we make the rest of the thread here about how guys can be less creepy?!

One word: Integrity

I have noticed on this subform that the only time girls get mentioned, it is hot girls. As if other girls do not even exist. There is no reason to limit yourself to just approaching or trying to fuck/date 8/10+ in terms of looks. There are many variables that make a girl to be a good partner, appearnace is just one of them. Yes it matters, but so do other things. Maybe if guys approached more 6s and 7s or even 5s it would make things so much more simple. I know that girls are the same, they will only filter high value guys, it is human nature. But i find this so disgusting for some reason, everyone deserves love. I feel like a girl rn typing this but that is how i feel. Maybe that 6/10 you approach ends up being your future wife which you have missed if you had ignored her because she was not "hot enough". As a guy your worth in society is partlly dictated by the hotness of the girl you are with. Fucked up imo. Hot girls are really good to practice though, i tend to purposfully treat them like their looks are irrelevant, it is so much fun haha.

@Leo Gura He said how to get girls, not how to get hot girls. Big difference. That would be like asking how to get a job as a data analyst in some random small firm versus on google. Totally different ball parks.

@Leo Gura If it was only was that easy...

@Javfly33 Yes for one night stands i would get it. But that is not what most guys really want i think?

@StarStruck Slightly below average looking minimum Fit Not shorter than 5 cm than her More confident than her More independent than her (so less needy) Somewhat funny or at least not super serious Have passion, hobbies, goals, purpose etc Have somewhat your life together Being okay in bed Being more dominant, assertive than she is. Taking care of yourself in terms of hygene, grooming etc Not being socially retarted Not being super dumb or ignorant in general That should do it