Karmadhi

I am all good with gaming in a place that fits my personality. Daygame works for me. A loud nightclub does not. I am a fish and i want to hunt in the sea not in a dessert. House parties also work great for me but going to them is quite random depending on social circle events, not very consistent. Bars could also work but i do not find a lot of girls my age there. Clubs i hate, at least the ones that are open right now. If i cannot talk to girls normally it is a no no for me. Keep in mind my standards for sex are VERY low compared to most guys, so i can find plenty of girls attractive enough to date every time im out on the streets doing my thing. My pickyness is usually when it comes to personality, not looks. I am generally bit feminine when it comes to this dating stuff which is why conventional dating advice is not 100 percent applicable for me. Once i went out with a girl and when i first saw her on the date i thought to myself: "Damn im not feeling it at all, im not attracted to her physically at all", then after talking and flirting a bit for 3 hours i got attracted to her enough to want to kiss her myself. I think this is how girls are regarding dating. The "I know within 5 seconds if i would sleep with her or not" thingy does not fully apply to me. Of course there are girls i am not attracted to at ALL no matter what but i would consider maybe 30-40 percent of girls "dating" material looks wise if i also liked their personality and we vibed well. Might seem weird but this is what i have learned about myself once i started talking to girls and trying to date them. I am still on the phase of learning how to get a consistent make out on the first date, closing on the first date is still bit advanced for me. At least with not super sexually liberated girls.

Normally true but this one seems a bit not that social because she is still new in town so i doubt her life is that busy yet. Good point for future girls though, thank you. Thank you I get dates from uni and being social in general. I do not do pickup, i really do not need it. If i ever do pick up it will be daygame, not a fan of nightgame tbh.

@Leo Gura I already did it on thursday evening, legit told her "lets hang out on the weekend". She said: "yeah lets see".

Just do daygame instead.

So i asked her if she could meet me during the weekend on thursday and she said "yes lets see". It is saturday night now and no sign from her. Should i remind her AGAIN if she can meet on sunday or should i just not text her?

Not the case at all

Do you even read what i wrote? I said i did your way and did not work. Simple as that.

The women's perspective in this topic is irrelevant. I listented to it for years, does not work Most guys here will agree with me on this.

Is rejection rate lower in daygame? Girls with actual boyfriends dont count.

Also keep in mind not every girl will be into your looks. There is nothing wrong with that per say. It is how life works. Talk to a lot of girls and some will find you at least okay looking. If you totally not her type, then yeah, you cannot attract her however if you talk to a lot of girls you will those that will be into your looks at least somewhat. It is a threashhold thing. You do not need them to find you legit handsome to attract them, "he is okay" is honestly all you need for them. And yes maximize your looks if you havent already. Good clothes, good gromming, skincare (if your skin has issues), GYM GYM GYM GYM etc are MUST for every man.

Why do this honestly, if you like him just go for it...

A video for Incels would be appreciated

Thanks bro, appreciate it! I ve lost like 4 girls so far because i was a pussy and did not make moves so it feels good ngl. Thank you!

I mean this one was okay with it and at some point we were holding hands sitting close to each other for like 5 seconds and she did not let go. That is what made me believe it was the moment she would be receptive to a kiss. Idk if it was the right move but she didnt move away, she return the kiss then kissed me again after like 10 seconds or so herself. "It was just a friendly meeting, things got weird at the end, beer in empty stomach" BS. One thing i should clarify though is that this one actually tested me quite openly and even said so. She would do these games where she would ask me what platform the train is, then she she would say the train was on another platform on purpose so to see "how confident i was on my opinion". She would say stuff like "Im trying to make you more confident etc" but did it in such a way that i found a bit offputting. Is this normal beahaviour?

I only listen to guys when it comes to dating advice, females are clueless.

I texted her after we met. I cant be texting her always me every day. There should be some sort of equality. Do not forget it was me who asked her out both times, who added her on insta, who started the convos etc. I think it is enough investment from my part.

Ok thank you!

Guy wants sex or gf. He will push you towards that. Simple. No need for games, if he does games it is to hook you not to "test" you then ditch you like girls do. A guy decided on the first 10 seconds whether he would sleep with you or not and they are very difficult to turn off from doing so unless you are crazy or something. If they play games it is to basically hook you so you will become more invested on him and not pull these bs games i am experiecing rn.

Thanks for the advice but i was referring via texting. If i get a meetup 1 on 1 then i kinda know what to do. I am clueless about texting though (the gateway to a meetup). So if i brush off what she said via texting, tell her a date to meet and she asks again "is this friendly meeting" what should i text back. That was my question

I do not know a single guy that does this stuff, they are pretty obvious if they want something or not. I do not know what kind of guys you re talking about tbh. I try, i really do! I know. It is not over yet. However this is the furthest i have ever gotten with a girl (if i dont count meeting someone that is staying over a weekend and you ll never see again stuff). Dating properly wise, i never got this far. So i am still in uncharted territory.

I am rather unlucky then, so far they ve all been like this. I ll keep moving forward regardless until i find someone that loves me the way i am.

Idk why i always get girls like these, i just want a normal girl. Lessons learned. I am very straightforward in dating regarding meetups and stuff. I never say anything explicitly but i never play these dumb af games. So far every girl i have been on dates with has been weird in her own way. Well i replied to her story 2 days after and texted a bit then suggested to meet up later that week. To me this is more than enough to imply i had a good time.

Yes but i was rejected/friendzoned when i did this in the past (not touching nor kissing on a first date) . I would rather not make the same mistakes again. Most first dates do not end up with sex yet people still end up together. Lesson learned. Leo scolded me too about it. I am just extremly punctual and i would always show up even with a friendly meeting with another guy and i project that into others and expect them to do the same. My mistake. I doubt i gave such a strong player vibe that i would EXPECT sex on a second date. However this is just my assumption, maybe you are correct. That is what i have been planning to do. Getting the meetup is the hard part. She is being bit defensive about it.

Exactly, they are the hardest ones to get due to their conditioning so as a beginner i am a bit lost, hence why i made this thread. I always text like this tbh, it was her that opened up this "hey btw this is friendly meeting right" BS. If i ignore her bs and try to arrange a meeting and she brings up again this "friend" bs should i just clarify it or just flirt back.

I am trying not to get too attached to it because i have suffered greatly in the past from over-investment with girls. Made massive progress in this domain but still could be improved a lot. At this point i feel like being sociopathically detached is the only way to date and stay sane as a guy