Karmadhi

The fact that Leo not only has dozens of 3 hour long videos for free on Youtube but also has a forumn where he personally answers dozens of questions every single day is something i personally really admire about him. No other Youtuber will do this for you to such an extent, they always charge for stuff. I remember the first time he gave an answer to a question of mine on a thread 1.5 years ago, i was legit blown away to the point where i had to click his profile to be sure it was actually him. Highly respect him for this alone. Personally, his videos have really changed my life. Made me MUCH less judgemental, much less obsessed with comparing myself with others (still am but WAY less), greatly improved my understanding of politics and society and arguably jumped me from the achiever to half-way pluralist on the 9 stages of ego development model. So yes big THANK YOU to you Leo!

For me it is much harder to find wings than to find girls that would be interested to date me. I tried that telegram group you sent but most of the people there want to do daygame and the group for my city (big capital city of europe) is kind of dead. Also most are quite older than me (im 23 they are like 28 or so). Is there any other source or website or forumn or group to find wings? Also is it worth daygaming with a wing or is it a solo activity?

Im getting tired honestly. No matter how much i try it is still a bit hard not to get emotionally invested AT ALL, especially if the girl is somewhat good fit for you (high quality girl as they say). I am a decent guy i dont geniounly think i deserve to be treated like garbage like this. If this keeps on i fear i will become one of those ruthless sociopathic puas (even though i dont really do pick up) that gives 0 shits about the girls and just cares about his agenda and has 0 empathy. My vision for what i want is the only thing that keeps me motivated to keep moving forward.

Yes well if she was flirting and still interested she would not make it crazy hard to meet me a second time like she currently is. The first time to meet her was so easy compared to the second time. I will still try with her until she explicitly rejects me because i got nothing to loose but i am not very optimistic. When a girl is interested to meet you she will meet you, as long as you are asking her to meet you. Simple as that. So yeah fuck her honestly.

I want to practice going outside my confort zone. I used to be really platonic in dates so i am trying to improve my escalation, touching and going for the kiss skills. These things push me outside my comfort zone.

I am all good with gaming in a place that fits my personality. Daygame works for me. A loud nightclub does not. I am a fish and i want to hunt in the sea not in a dessert. House parties also work great for me but going to them is quite random depending on social circle events, not very consistent. Bars could also work but i do not find a lot of girls my age there. Clubs i hate, at least the ones that are open right now. If i cannot talk to girls normally it is a no no for me. Keep in mind my standards for sex are VERY low compared to most guys, so i can find plenty of girls attractive enough to date every time im out on the streets doing my thing. My pickyness is usually when it comes to personality, not looks. I am generally bit feminine when it comes to this dating stuff which is why conventional dating advice is not 100 percent applicable for me. Once i went out with a girl and when i first saw her on the date i thought to myself: "Damn im not feeling it at all, im not attracted to her physically at all", then after talking and flirting a bit for 3 hours i got attracted to her enough to want to kiss her myself. I think this is how girls are regarding dating. The "I know within 5 seconds if i would sleep with her or not" thingy does not fully apply to me. Of course there are girls i am not attracted to at ALL no matter what but i would consider maybe 30-40 percent of girls "dating" material looks wise if i also liked their personality and we vibed well. Might seem weird but this is what i have learned about myself once i started talking to girls and trying to date them. I am still on the phase of learning how to get a consistent make out on the first date, closing on the first date is still bit advanced for me. At least with not super sexually liberated girls.

Normally true but this one seems a bit not that social because she is still new in town so i doubt her life is that busy yet. Good point for future girls though, thank you. Thank you I get dates from uni and being social in general. I do not do pickup, i really do not need it. If i ever do pick up it will be daygame, not a fan of nightgame tbh.

@Leo Gura I already did it on thursday evening, legit told her "lets hang out on the weekend". She said: "yeah lets see".

Just do daygame instead.

So i asked her if she could meet me during the weekend on thursday and she said "yes lets see". It is saturday night now and no sign from her. Should i remind her AGAIN if she can meet on sunday or should i just not text her?

Not the case at all

Do you even read what i wrote? I said i did your way and did not work. Simple as that.

The women's perspective in this topic is irrelevant. I listented to it for years, does not work Most guys here will agree with me on this.

Is rejection rate lower in daygame? Girls with actual boyfriends dont count.

Also keep in mind not every girl will be into your looks. There is nothing wrong with that per say. It is how life works. Talk to a lot of girls and some will find you at least okay looking. If you totally not her type, then yeah, you cannot attract her however if you talk to a lot of girls you will those that will be into your looks at least somewhat. It is a threashhold thing. You do not need them to find you legit handsome to attract them, "he is okay" is honestly all you need for them. And yes maximize your looks if you havent already. Good clothes, good gromming, skincare (if your skin has issues), GYM GYM GYM GYM etc are MUST for every man.

Why do this honestly, if you like him just go for it...

A video for Incels would be appreciated

Thanks bro, appreciate it! I ve lost like 4 girls so far because i was a pussy and did not make moves so it feels good ngl. Thank you!

I mean this one was okay with it and at some point we were holding hands sitting close to each other for like 5 seconds and she did not let go. That is what made me believe it was the moment she would be receptive to a kiss. Idk if it was the right move but she didnt move away, she return the kiss then kissed me again after like 10 seconds or so herself. "It was just a friendly meeting, things got weird at the end, beer in empty stomach" BS. One thing i should clarify though is that this one actually tested me quite openly and even said so. She would do these games where she would ask me what platform the train is, then she she would say the train was on another platform on purpose so to see "how confident i was on my opinion". She would say stuff like "Im trying to make you more confident etc" but did it in such a way that i found a bit offputting. Is this normal beahaviour?

I only listen to guys when it comes to dating advice, females are clueless.

I texted her after we met. I cant be texting her always me every day. There should be some sort of equality. Do not forget it was me who asked her out both times, who added her on insta, who started the convos etc. I think it is enough investment from my part.

Ok thank you!

Guy wants sex or gf. He will push you towards that. Simple. No need for games, if he does games it is to hook you not to "test" you then ditch you like girls do. A guy decided on the first 10 seconds whether he would sleep with you or not and they are very difficult to turn off from doing so unless you are crazy or something. If they play games it is to basically hook you so you will become more invested on him and not pull these bs games i am experiecing rn.

Thanks for the advice but i was referring via texting. If i get a meetup 1 on 1 then i kinda know what to do. I am clueless about texting though (the gateway to a meetup). So if i brush off what she said via texting, tell her a date to meet and she asks again "is this friendly meeting" what should i text back. That was my question

I do not know a single guy that does this stuff, they are pretty obvious if they want something or not. I do not know what kind of guys you re talking about tbh. I try, i really do! I know. It is not over yet. However this is the furthest i have ever gotten with a girl (if i dont count meeting someone that is staying over a weekend and you ll never see again stuff). Dating properly wise, i never got this far. So i am still in uncharted territory.