Karmadhi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzPkDmqfr6s You mean this guy? Lol. Even if only 10% of what is said on the video is true, it is enough reason to stay the fuck away. Your friend AG Hayden is much better role model for learning game. Also seems introverted too and not natural since birth so good for learning from.

I feel like to do well with women you need to be stage orange or to some extent have its elements. I say this because your How to get laid series outside the ethics section looked quite orange to me. Most green people would call it mysogonistic and sexist if they saw it and you would get hate for it. Meanwhile you are like yellow and still talk about getting laid in an orange way. Why is this so? Basically all of green approach to getting laid is totally different from yours (they hate pick up for eg).

I personally dont care, i was just following his trail of thought which was: "If you cannot tell your friends and people about it because they will judge you then it is not socially acceptable".

We dont live in the stone age anymore. A nice guy provider is way more useful to her survival these days. Or is her attraction circuit still based on the stone age, on what would be useful in the stone age.

Spam approaching in general is not socially acceptable. Even in places like clubs. Sure, apporaching in clubs is normal but spam approaching 20 girls a night, every night is seen as a bit weird, by most people. My question is : Why do you even care what they think honestly. Maybe this is the difference between us because where i live girls usually go on clubs to have fun with their friends and usually there are also guys with them. Most of them do not respond well to being approached, they just want to be left alone to enjoy the company of their OWN group. Personally if i approach a group of girls during nightgame i am equally disturbing them as if i approach a girl during daygame when she is doing nothing and probably bored. Yes, clubs are a social place but on big groups people dont want to be approached by random people. At least in my city it is like this. During daygame girls are alone and often have nothing doing at that moment. Parks are especially good for this. Street i am not a big fan of personally but i have seen it work a lot. Clubs a set of two girls is the best imo or a group of girls but for that you need a good wing which is not always in your disposal. Or you need insane social skills which if you had, you could equally do well in daygame. The reason why women hate daygame is because the guys doing it are weird and creepy as fuck. I noticed the most socially clueless people do daygame instead of nightgame. If most people approaching you are like that, ofc you wont like it. But i assume that you are a person with good social skills and social intelligence so way less likely for girls to be creeped out. And tbh its not like nightgame has better conversion ratio, i would say daygame approaches are way more likely to lead to numbers and dates, at least that is what i have noticed from talking to advanced guys in my city. I personally have female friends that hate when guys talk to them because they are usually weird and creepy as fuck during the day. However when a normal decent guy talks to them, they never speak in a bad way about it. They are actually taken by suprpise in a good way. "This guy saw me and told me i looked nice and talked to me for a bit, he was so cute and polite". Exact words of a friend of mine whose daygame experinces are guys catcalling her or following her home. But of course it is nice to do both day and night game. No reason to just stick to one. Maybe one weekend you do nightgame with a wing, another week when your wing is busy or you re not feeling the club you do a daygame session by yourself. Combine both.

@Optimized Life He has these opinions because he lives in a town (100k) so of course it is a bad idea to spam approach there during the day. I wouldnt do it either. However, he projects because not everyone lives in a small town, some of us live in large cities and there it is perfectly okay.

You project a lot on these posts. It is not true at all that girls are receptive during the night more, they are super bitchy and always in groups. Personally, in my city (Brussels) all the guys i met that actually get results do it during the day. Even newbies get numbers on few approaches compared to nightgame where 99% of them are blow outs. Also not every personality type will exceel on a loud busy bar/club. People have different strenghts. Night is great for practice or fuck around with wings for sure, i do enjoy it under the right company but personally i dont have that high energy explosivness that is needed to get results during the night. So dont many introverts that do pick up to get better with girls. Most of the advanced gamers i have met in my city said they used nightgame to train fast but most of their actual results came from during the day. Maybe other cities are different, i dont know. I have seen gamers talk to girls in parks and there was nothing creepy about it, it was super romantic and the girl responded very well. A guy i met was so smooth and good he literally opened girls in metro station and they responded well, had a 5 minute convo and gave her number. It is creepy if you are creepy. I have heard the worst harrasement stories by girls during the night, not during the day. Note: I always assume the guy has decent social skills and social intelligence/awareness, if he is a legit autistic person then night will be better because it tolerates socially clueless behaviour better. Daygame requires at least decent social skills already.

I ask this because i have noticed around me, usually two guys with same level of game, the white guy gets better results than the darker skin guy. And often i am not talking about Indian per say, even middle eastern or latino. Also some of the ones i have seen struggle relative to their white counterparts were not really insecure about it, they never mentioned it. It was something i noticed and also influenced by the internet (JBW stuff). Disclaimer: I am not saying dark skin guys cannot get laid, ofc they can. Some can even slay it, my point is that for a white guy with 5/10 game a dark skin guy needs 6-7/10 game to match his results (i am talking super super generally here just to make my point). Why is this? Is it because white guys are considered higher status due to most rich and powerful countries being white dominated? Or is it something biological? Considering black guys are usually the most physically capable (not to mention big baggage) it does not make sense so is it just cultural? Even Leo's friend AG Hayden just made a video talking about Indian guys and how it is a disadvantage and they should try to look as "American" as possible. And this guy is way more experienced than anyone here so we cannot say his words are bs. Now you might say, that is because you are talking about white girls and Indian guys, people tend to gravitate towards their own race.e th Well, if a typical white guy goes to any ethnic country he will do WAY WAY WAY better than the dark skinned guys do in a white dominated country. And please don't use the typical "I know a dark skinned guy that does well blla blla", ofc you do. We all do. If you have good game or are super handsome you will get results ALWAYS. I am talking about your TYPICAL guy not your top 5% in either money, game, looks etc. Most guys cannot be top 5%, they are by default TYPICAL, so we focus on them only. Outliers are irrelevant. Curious to hear your opinion.

First of all you mean 20 approaches a week, that is really good. You will not need as many as Leo i think because he has said himself that he was totally horrible when he started and he has very high standards regarding looks. So 440 was with the worst odds possible.

What is their level of game? I am talking here about your typical guy, not PUAs or naturals.

How did you meet her if i may ask? Also congrats bro, good job!

Tbh Leo I am also like this guy that made the thread and i heavily dissagree. Many girls are intellectual and love these convos, most of my female friends are like this. It is not so hard to find them as long as you look for them in specific places. I notice most girls that go to clubs often are not like this because all my female friends that i consider intellectual rarely rarely go to clubs and they dont like them. Also these girls are usually not the hottest girls, i would say 6s and maybe 7s but never 8s plus. So there is definetly a trade-off. Introverted girls are way more intellectual but also bit harder to find because they are less social. Extroverted girls are way easier to find but from my experience i cannot really date one, they would bore me to death.

So i watched Leo's videon on how to love which he posted 8 days ago. First of all i would like to say it is an amaizing video and i really enjoyed it and gained wisdom from it. However, i feel like a lot of the things on that video work great for keeping relationships together (platonic, romantic and family), but when it comes to getting girls to be attracted to you and want to be with you it does not seem to work well. I have noticed that girls, especially young ones 18-25, tend to be into guys that are quite toxic. How do i define toxic? Well, giving mixed signals, low empathy, very selfish, bit controlling (depends), bit narcissistic and drama creator. So the opposite of healthy and steady and stable. My question is, how can i become more loving and selfless and empathetic like Leo says when girls are attracted to the exact opposite of it. It seems like i have to be toxic and unpredictable and ghost girls and do all this BS in order to get them hooked into me. And guys i have seen so many examples of this in my life with people i know that i am convinced beyond a doubt that this is what works with young girls. Do not even bother explaining to me that young girls do not respond well to this toxic crap. I just need to know how can i be attractive to girls while being stable, healthy, actualized, caring, honest, humble and non-drama person. Honestly i feel like sometimes i should just start playing games and become a toxic fuck and do what some of my guy friends do if i want a girl to be attracted to me. It is very tempting but i do not want to go through that route, i feel like it would corrupt me and would be hard to go back. SO So please, some advice would be really appreciated.

Libraries also can work. Actualized people tend to read

If pick up is so effective and at the same time it does not respect women, then does not respecting women make it easier to get laid? Does respecting women hurt your chances of getting laid? Do women prefer a guy that does not care about them at all which is what pickup supports (total detachment in an almost toxic way)? I have been thinking about these things. Is it even worth it to be kind and caring with girls if they will treat you like shit if you do so? At least with girls you are trying to get, not female friends ofc.

@Federico del pueblo Beautiful response. Well done.

Giving someone different treatment based on their race is the definition of racism. And not wanting to date fat girls is not fat shaming, is fat discrimination which most guys do often. Just because its racist does not mean he is a bad person, but the act itself is racist.

Then why good looking people tend to be more confident? If looks didnt matter then there would be no correlation between looks and confidence but there is. For example i dont see any relation between confidence and the position which you sleep at night but i do see correlation between confidence and physical attractivness. How much they matter though is up for debate. I think it depends on the girls. Some girls i know dont care much about looks while others wont even bother dealing with a guy if he is not handsome in their eyes. I personally think that the more insecure a girl is about her own looks, the more importance she will give to the looks of other guys. All subjective.

Having preferences is okay, not dating a person only because of their race is racist in my opinion. So prefering asian women over other races is okay, but not dating a girl because she is asian is racist.

It would be nice if you told us either via a blog link/video or a blog that you can write what exactly makes Trump so bad. Personally i am European and outside some dumb shit he has said when it comes to external relations i dont see what exactly he did wrong. You mentioned once filling the supreme court with religious ideologous which is a valid point. It is hard to find this stuff online from non biased sources. Personally im not a fan of him because he is clearly too conservative for my taste but during his time no wars were started by the US (unlike Obama) and the economy grew quite well. His handling of Covid crisis was horrible imo. Idk what else to add, would be interested to hear what exactly makes Trump so bad from a non biased source (either you or a source you think is non biased), it is hard to find them when you re not american and totally clueless about what goes on there in an internal level.

Girls are picky in general, even ugly girls have more options than most guys due to online dating. Do not expect them to wanna fuck you just because you show some interest in them.

With these standards how can you even find a partner? Every person has flaws.

@Tudo Any thoughts on it?

I found this video on Youtube and Coray Wayne i think has good relationship advice. The guy on the video basically was very attentive, loyal and caring to the girl and she treated him like trash and dumped him without any explanation. It is stories like this that really scare me when it comes to emotionally investing in girls. No wonder players are so successful, it is a lot easier when you are a sociopath that gives 0 shits about the girl. Did this guy do something wrong or is the girl just a bitch and bad character? Sometimes it is not your fault, just the other person has bad character. Scary how heartless some people can be honestly.

Bro, not dating someone because of their accent is ridiciously superficial. I doubt you would turn down a smart kind caring honest cute girl just because of her accent. There is nothing special about american girls outside maybe being more friendly and slutty than europeans which have are more uptight at least western ones.