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@Striving for more Decent looking is not enough if you use shitty pictures. Use high quality pictures that show you at your best, add some photoshop to make yourself pop more and you can easily add 1-2 points in looks. How do you think girls or models do it? Do not underestimate the power that photoshop and professional photography has on the way pictures portray someone. Also do not except to sleep with super hot girls anyway. I would say around 7-7.5/10 is where you will end up with. Yeah, if you look like a model then you can get away with shitty pictures. If you are not then either do not use online dating or do the things i wrote above. You do not even need professional pictures anymore honestly just a good phone camera and someone that KNOWS how to make you look nice. I have pictures where i look MUCH more attractive than i actually am thanks to good camera and angles.

@Leo Gura That is so fucked man. No wonder the blackpill and incels are rising so much if it is like this. I still think IF you are decent looking and with some effort you can get results in it but yeah you will not get a super hot girl. The good thing with online dating is that once you put in the work at first then you do not have to do much. I see it as passive income while approaching in real life would be like the actual "job".

@Leo Gura By personality i mean showing a cool lifestyle, your hobbies, social life etc.

@Forestluv Just get good pictures, if you can some photoshop and professional photographer and you should be at least decent looking. That is all you need. Professional pics and photoshop can bring you from a 6/10 to an 8/10 easily. Also keep in mind MOST tinder accounts SUCK DICK. It is the equivalent of those wasted creepy guys hitting on girls on clubs, yes they are competition but it is such bad competition it is not worth considering. At least half of Tinder accounts are not worth considering at all given how bad they are, at least where i live.

@Leo Gura I just thought she would not smash that easily in an not emotionally stimulated state. Of course she would pick the hottest guy but i assumed that personality mattered to, like how your pictures convey you and stuff. Most importantly i thought they would go out with you for coffee first (like a few of the girls there suggested) before fucking. I thought girls would not casually fuck a guy unless they were emotionally stimulated in the moment (girls do shit based on emotions). Those girls were acting like legit horny guys. What happened to "girls loose their value if they are perceived as sluts". Apparently that is not an issue anymore in these countries so slut shaming seems irrelevant.

@Recursoinominado Actually you look like that guy in the article so you do not need to do that stuff to get some action hahahahah. But i am not saying i will not talk to girls in person or anything like that. Just showed it since it surprised me and the views i had about women caring about personality mostly. I do not like the concept of cold approach though unless it is in a social setting like nightclub bar party festival etc. I am still in uni so i can still approach in class anyway.

@Preety_India I know that you can work around it, just found it interesting since i did not expect girls to do such stuff.

@RendHeaven This girl here has clearly been hurt in the past and now has created this reality where most men are bad selfish men and pick up is responsible for that. In reality pick up is used by shy weak men to become stronger. The asshole jerks that hurt women are usually not involved with pick up at all. Most of the audience in this forum falls into the shy nerd that cant get laid hence the shit load of posts regarding sexual frustration and pick up advice. I do not think a sociopath would use this forum.

I found this and it is very interesting. It seems a lot more similar to what Leo says regarding genders and it seems overall a very mature outlook. Would love to hear your comments, if you know this guy tell me what you think of him as a coach

Cannot wait for it honestly!!!!!!!!!!

@Leo Gura What is wrong with real estate? If you have the money for it, it can be quite nice and bring you a lot of money. If you do it properly there is, there is risk involved with it. Not all business requires pure creation. Take a restaurant business for example. People can make a decent earning from it, yeah you will not be rich but if it goes well you can live quite decently. You need knowledge of how to run and maintain business but no real creation. Creation is a smaller part of business, it is not the WHOLE of business. I doubt all businesses that do well create and innovate all the time. So all of the businesses you ever made you were a creator? For all of them? If i am wrong correct me of course.

It will get you laid a lot if you know what you re doing. In online dating is 90 percent and even in person it can make quite a difference. However it is not a mandatory for her to find you good looking, average looking in her eyes is more than enough to fuck her IF you know what you re doing. I have failed with girls that found me attractive so they are not the end all be all. Game matters much more than looks as long as she does not find you legit unattractive. Intelligence is fucking useless for girls honestly. DO NOT listen to them saying they like smart guy and shit. Countless people including me and Leo are regarded as "smart" by most people and still struggles with girls. I would say being less intelligent helps since it makes you less stuck in your head, less logical and more spontaneous and chilled. I am talking about getting laid here not for marriage.

@Leo Gura Can you do IPEC in Europe too or is it an USA only programm. When i checked it once it had live events that were held on the USA.

@Leo Gura Alright. Could you please answer: does this advice apply to all girls? What about shy serious cold kind of girls? There are some girls which are super open to serious deep conversations but its hard af to get them to be playful and do small talk. When i mean serious deep conversations i am not saying no humor or teasing at all. Just you guys talk about a specific topic rather than changing topics every 20 seconds with 0 meaning or substance like you do during small talk. Really curious about this, what do you think

@Leo Gura Spot on advice It just sucks that if you re a deep kind of person who likes deep conversations rather than small talk teasing bullshit you' re kinda fucked regard dating. Just curios, does this advice apply to all girls? What about shy serious cold kind of girls? There are some girls which are super open to serious deep conversations but its hard af to get them to be playful and do small talk. When i mean serious deep conversations i am not saying no humor or teasing at all. Just you guys talk about a specific topic rather than changing topics every 20 seconds with 0 meaning or substance like you do during small talk.

@Preety_India My only experience is all the stories my female friends tell me about how this guy is flirting with them and this guy here is approaching them and they just feel annoyed from having like 5 guys a month wanting to fuck them (mostly from social media, some in real life) Must suck being them yeah :'( I apologise for the sexist stuff i said though, the rest im pretty sure its bs

@Recursoinominado I literally said that you can get good girls with game so idk why you are disagreeing with me. I am saying if you are not good looking you can get results. @Preety_India You are right but i would like to make some claims on what you said. Firstly, a women will not have issues getting a guy, you almost never see incel women. Guys are the ones that need the most help here. Secondly, a women can get a guy if she works on herself. A feminine personality will be just as effective as good looks (it has worked on me) Thirdly, when we are talking about human interactions you have to practice somewhere. I could tell him to practice with hot girls but he will be so blinded by their "divine beauty" he will not be able to do shit with them. Yes it is mean thing to say but how would you go about it? Most guys get tongue tied when talking to a hot girl unless they are experienced, it is how it is. I am just stating reality. Fourthly, saying someone is attractive or not has nothing to do with respect. If you consider attractiveness to be something important for your identity then yeah it is lack of respect. Some people do not give a shit about how other's percieve their looks to be. This respect notion is deeply relative

@Recursoinominado That depends on how good/bad their game is and how attractive/ugly they are. If the good looking guy is a complete wimp then yeah he may not get the girl at the end. However most good looking guys have enough confidence and social skills to get a girl mostly from their looks. I know very attractive guys that get plenty of girls without game and stuff. Once a friend of mine was told by a girl that she liked him and wanted to go to the bathroom so he could have sex with her. But you need to be very good looking for that to happen. A 7/10 guy wont get that shit so it is not worth feeling bad about. If a guy has amaizing game then yeah he can fuck hot girls on a regular bases too. The destination (sex) can be reached in many ways. Pick the way that is possible for you and do that.

@Preety_India I literally said ugly girl pussy is just as good as hot girl pussy. Regarding "building yourself up from ugly to hot girls" i was being pragmatic and practical. Practical advice and " not hurting people's egos" are independent variables.

@Preety_India Poor dude was just asking how to get over his looks insecurity, he never said "ugly girls" or anything like that.

I could give you some sugarcoating bs but this is the most accurate video i have ever seen regarding this topic. It is both accurate, empowering, positive and REALISTIC

@Leo Gura And how do you plan to do that? If the guy is ugly then his inner game is already bad from years of being treated like shit by girls. Hot girls will not reject good looking guys with confidence for an ugly guy that is insecure about his looks. He should start with ugly girls then build himself up to hot girls. Pussy is pussy. Ugly girls pussies feel just as good as hot girls pussies, the rest is just bs in your head and ego validation @Recursoinominado If looks dont matter then a guy with good game would pick up every single girl he approached. Usually even guys with good game will attract a small fraction of what they approach. I am not saying looks are the end all be all but saying they do not matter is ridiciolous and denying reality. "If you are good looking you can get away with A LOT more and have girls attracted to you by just existing and not being a wimp but as an ugly guy with great game you can do just as well, it is just more work. Basically like studying for an exam versus being naturally smart and not having to study. It is not fair but life is not fair, dont complain and grow". This seems as better advice.

Alright guys so i have a question. On this video Leo says that to be a man it means to be authentic and that the confident charismatic macho persona is not for everyone. For a guy to more attractive to girls he needs to be more like a woman. However when it comes to "hooking women like crack" and other stuff like this he promotes exactly the toxic masculine persona. So being detached, confident, assertive etc. If being this masculine persona is unhealthy and unattractive then why would Leo advocate guys to be like that. Personally i tend to be different from that. I am kind, caring, soft, logical and chill kinda person. So should i be more girly so more flirty, spontaneous, smiley etc or more aggressive, dominant, assertive and ruthless. I don't know if i am i writing this correctly but i feel like the two pieces of advice contradict each other.

@Preety_India What if he is your height but has all the other qualities? How tall are you?

I would not recommend it unless you have a bad health condition that would make COVID life threatening for you. Would not be surprised if the side effects of the vaccine are bigger than the actual harm the virus does to most people. If you are below 50 without any bad health conditions, the chances of dying or being permanently damaged from COVID at this point are close to 0.