Moksha

My bad, apparently I'm not communicating directly enough these days Don't confuse emotions with the facets of absolute reality. It's true the absolute doesn't feel love for anything, joy about anything, or at peace with anything. These are aspects of its absolute nature. When he chose to speak, Ramana Maharshi often referred to sat-chit-ananda. From the Upanishads: "Apta-kamam atma-kamam akamam rupam: That is his real form, where he is free from all desires because all his desires are fulfilled; for the Self is all our desire." Nothing less can satisfy the human heart. "There is no joy in the finite; there is joy only in the infinite." That is the message of the Upanishads. The infinite - free, unbounded, full of joy - is our native state. We have fallen from that state and seek it everywhere: every human activity is an attempt to fill this void. But as long as we try to fill it from outside ourselves, we are making demands on life which life cannot fulfill. Finite things can never appease an infinite hunger. Nothing can satisfy us but reunion with our real Self, which the Upanishads say is sat-chit-ananda: absolute reality, pure awareness, unconditioned joy.

You don't have to reject the relative. You created it for a reason. It's phenomenal, just don't identify with it. Dualities are illusion, and despite the absolute essence of the illusion, its experience within the dream will never be the same quality when it identifies as the illusion compared to when it realizes itself. I am so open-minded that I disidentify with the mind (almost) entirely. It's ok, I wish you the best and take no offense.

Suffering is built from self-deception.

Not only can so-called gurus be bright, they can also be deluded or disingenuous. The only guru that can be trusted is the guru within.

You do, constantly. It's always "the hallelujah" or the "horrible abyss", which you don't seem to understand are dualities within the dream. You don't have to ride the 5-Me0 roller coaster to fully appreciate the apparently ordinary experiences in life with perpetual lucidity and light. Sorry for my bluntness today, but it's time to cut through the bullshit. Sometimes it's necessary.

When you awaken within the dream, the apparent separation almost entirely dissolves. It's like flying a kite at 1,000 feet.

Why do people continue bringing up Ramana Maharshi? I'm not a bhakti devotee that worships gurus, whether its him or anyone else. I couldn't give a fuck about who it is, what I care about is whether there is luminosity that resonates, regardless of the transmitter. If I see the absolute in cow shit, it is still luminous.

I'm saying that absolute love is infinitely beyond what humans think of as love. It's not this conditional emotion that people feel when they meet someone that happens to align with their desire blockages, without hitting their aversion blockages. A triangle peg in a triangle hole is still conditional, and will eventually encounter resistance as the blockages shift as they must. Human love is still suffering because it is inevitably transient. It's incorrect to assume that enlightened beings are apathetic. To the contrary, they see the sameness of themselves in every form, and desire to relieve the unnecessary suffering of themselves in apparent others. They love unconditionally, and naturally improve the quality of the experience for the expression of the absolute within the dream.

I'm referring to limitless absolute, not human, imagination. Give yourself a break from phenomenal exploration for a while, and deepen your direct spiritual realization without distraction. Just my 2 spiritual cents

Imagination is unlimited, and it is the enemy of silence. I'm not referring to somatic and mental silence, as if submersing yourself in a sensory deprivation tank will awaken you. I'm referring to the direct realization of the absolute communicating with itself. It is light resonating with light. The words mean nothing until you realize it, and when you do, the disparagement by others is equally meaningless.

I'm not referring to silence as the absence of auditory sensations. By silence, I am referring to the direct spiritual transmission of absolute truth which is entirely devoid of every phenomenon.

I mentioned that he taught tens of thousands of people. Feel free to fact check it. Regardless of who or how he taught, the relevant question is whether what he taught deepens your realization of the absolute. The guru and its teachings are both maps, not the territory.

Not going to happen. I share truth unconditionally, and if it doesn't resonate with you, of course you should ignore it.

Convenient that truth is truth, regardless of the transmitter?

Read again what I said. Anything that can be thought is not direct experience.

Curiosity is powerful when pointed inward. The mind can't realize what absolute reality is, but it has the capacity to realize what it is not. It's not about accumulating knowledge, but about discarding untruths until only reality remains. Like Michelangelo saw, the task of the artist isn't to create art, but to remove everything from the block of marble that the art is not.

I understand what you're saying, even if you think I don't. Direct experience isn't what you think. The vast majority of what you experience in life is not direct. It is indirect. You become entangled in phenomena, rather than seeing only the absolute, which is the essence but NOT the appearance of the phenomena. Direct experience is only absolute. There are no phenomena getting in the way. It is unconditional love and unassailable silence. It bypasses the mind entirely. It's like tasting water for the first time. If there is any thinking involved, any sensations, any perceptions, any experiences, or any dualities, it is NOT DIRECT EXPERIENCE. It only happens when the price of entry is paid, and when it does, it is absolute and undeniable. It is the tiniest point of absolute reality, and it is so sharp that it can puncture every egoic bubble, no matter how inflated it may be.

I don't believe anything about him. I've read his words, and they deeply resonate with what I have directly realized. Other than that, the story of his avatar means little to me.

@Squeekytoy I hear you. It's a common "guru" gimmick to make cryptic declarations and bask in the oohs and aahs of the wide-eyed people at your feet. I suppose my love for analogies as pointers to truth is that they provide more room for discovery. The deeper you explore them, the more connections you realize. As you say, it's ironic that you have to see past them in the first place to get anything out of them, but for me their luminosity increases the deeper my capacity to realize the truth they represent.

The dream is the absolute, appearing as the relative. It is not the absolute, absent of appearance. When you realize the absolute, you will understand the emptiness of the ego.

Actually, it's true. He knew silence was the purest language, but it took him a while to realize that most of his students weren't mature enough for silence. He had to dumb it down into words for the masses.

Feeling the human emotion of love is a drop in the ocean of being love.

It's only useless at the surface, the pearls require a deeper dive. Same for Buddhism, Hinduism, and every other ism. It's the paradox of language. You need words to communicate, but most people are entrapped by words. They fail to see the difference between the map and the territory. Even silence is a paradox. It is the purest teacher, but students are deaf to it until they directly realize it, at which point it is no longer needed to teach.

Genuine mystic is a bit of an oxymoron Just an absolute joke on a Friday, don't take it too seriously.

Yes, but when you are lucid within the dream it is all about the quality of the experience, whether it is chopping wood and fetching water, or warming yourself by the fire and slaking your thirst.