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Ignorance is bliss

Watch the whole thing please, Kaveh Solhekol talks about stage orange american business men (course he doesn't know he's referring to spiral dynamics), talks how they might use left wing pr tactics to sell this and even on how it is necessary for government to intervene like Leo was referring to on his video why libertarian is nonsense

I've heard Leo say this in a few of his videos, to what extent is this true? Aren't conservative and liberal highly relative terms? In 400 years lets say, when we are much more conscious, wouldn't conservatism preserve that society? However in contemporary politics, can you be a conservative and for instance, be at stage yellow spiral dynamics? I would like to hear you guys thoughts... When I was younger I was definitely influenced by Ben Shapiro, JP etc. What I have noticed is that since doing consciousness work I have definitely moved much further to the left.

Not sure where else to go with this.. But I think Leo should develop a Like and perhaps a Like/Dislike feature for all our threads... There is a silent majority that dont participate in discussions and this could help get them more engaged. Also it will be easier to view the the most liked/agreed with viewpoints in the comment section, I think this could reinvent the forum possibly.

How long ago was it here? Perhaps in that time the conscious level of the forum has likely increased, so its effects could be much different from before. Perhaps we should vote on this issue. Lets have some democracy on the forum hahaha. Joking, Leo will never give up his power

Exactly. Everyone has guns. so everyone is crazy, including you. What you said is such a fear-based opinion. The problem of police violence and mass shootings is more deeply nested in the gun culture of america that you yanks are yet to reflect on. You literally think its some God given right to own a gun. Stage Blue Thinking. You literally just shrugged of America having 45 mass shootings like its a normal thing that happens in the world.

@Leo Gura No I haven't. I am not a police officer and do not have the need to train for 'gunfights'. They should have the training to clearly evaluate situations. I am not saying police should be perfect but Americas gun, violence and police problem is ridiculous.

@Forestluv Because Americans think the world revolves around them. America is one of the most corrupt places on earth. Just a much more sneaky form of corruption as opposed to some country in Africa. I promise if an American was to live in Europe for 5 years their worldview would radically change.

Why was a 13 year old kid running around with a handgun? Do you not see the deeper problem. Why not tazer him? Why not confirm that he had a gun on him at the point of engagement? Americans are so stupid and ideological about guns it is laughable. This happens nowhere else in the world.

@Leo Gura I dont think is this the point. No other developed country in the world has the policing problem that america has. There is a clear theme of gross misconduct by the police. You don't just get to assassinate children in the streets. Americans, included you Leo have come so accustomed to the brutality of the police that you don't even see this as a problem, you just shrugged off murder and managed to justify and rationalize it. There is no excuse for the way guns and police are handled in America - it is utterly appalling and the America needs to have a collective self reflection.

This is quite a senior, aristocrat MP from the UK that had a silver spoon fed to him growing up. He epitomises stage blue thinking

@soos_mite_ah First of all, personal development IS a lifelong process. There is no endpoint. Just take it easy and be gentle with yourself.

On a public policy level, should online, and offline racist language be a criminal offence? How does free speech come into play? I'm not talking about racist assaults, I'm talking on a purely language perspective. What unintended side effects could come from prosecuting racists? What precedent does this set? How could racism on a societal level develop of this is not treated seriously? This thread isn't for race baiting, or to start some race war - but I do think this is a question that isn't being addressed by society from a legal and public policy viewpoint.

should probably only be a blog post, not an actualized video. If your under 50 you should know how to search google. Lol, just search on google, 'how to search on google'.

@Leo Gura Is this genetic in your family or is this a condition that you have specifically?

No. Dont believe women.

Has anyone here read the Bible, Torah, or the Quran etc? What wisdom have you gained from it? Would you recommend reading it? If you have read both, how much do the texts overlap in teachings? What are some traps to avoid whilst reading them? Did you find it difficult to understand? How much does context play in understand these texts?

@JosephKnecht Radically.

I have managed to accept that I am the Devil when Leo explained it in his video, “what’s is the Devil?” However, for some reason I cannot accept myself to be God or at least have had the awareness/insight that I am God. I can also accept the notion that God is the Devil, but for some reason cannot accept myself to be God? That’s probably cause when I do selfish things I can see the devilry in that, but when I do a selfless act, I don’t see it to be an act of God? Hmm I think I will eventually come to the conclusion I am God, but I am yet to have that revelation.

Wrong. Edit: Just saw you added things that are not in your experience. Which is correct.

Hmm makes me wonder in 10 year time what actualized.org content would look like, or if there will even be an actualized.org. How radically do you think Leos teachings will change in 10 years time? I really dont see how much deeper he can go Lol

Will you be creating a new YouTube account or still be using actualised.org?

This isn't what I am saying. I never said I am a good, virtuous etc. I even said God was the Devil, I didn't split life into 'Organised Categories'. I know 'evil' is an aspect of the absolute and I have never stated otherwise. My overarching point was that when I do an 'evil' act, I can easily self reflect and understand that I am the devil / engaging in devilry. However when I do a 'selfless' act, I dont recognise this as me being God. I am not aware of myself to be God as of yet, I was simply ascertaining that it is easy for my to recognise when I am being a Devil, however not for me to recognise when I am being God. Even though Leo teaches we are at all times 'being' God.

How do you balance self-actualising, becoming more loving and selfless without leaving yourself to be exploited or taken advantage off?

No I dont believe this to be the case, I am very aware of the notion of people doing selfless acts to feel better about themselves. For my ego to accept that it is God may just be to grand of a notion for me so far in my spiritual journey, but I am not simply going to accept that I am God without discovering it for myself. Hmm maybe.