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No. Everything is imagined. That doesn’t change anything. Sleep is still sleep. No, the rocks are aware. Everything is aware. There is no difference between anything, including you and a rock. It is. It just isn’t the self you think it is. It’s not the human. It’s all of us and everything. That is you. @Sugarcoat

Yes The person is the illusion. The being awake part and the being a self part is not. Your self is not human or your thoughts or your feelings. Yourself experiences those things. Rocks are conscious. Everything is conscious. That is what I’m saying, yes. Do not try and realize this without understanding the implications of realizing it though. It is a radical shift. I would suggest this is a limiting belief. Perspectives on reality can change. You might have more control than you think. Yeah, don’t worry about it.

@Davino

If reality was beyond definition— that be would be what defines it, ironically..

@Breakingthewall Speak for yourself. Yet you try 🙂 why?

It is a state of awareness that supersedes sleep, enlightenment, etc. The general notion is that even when you are sleeping or think you are unaware— There is even an awareness of that. The whole point is the thing that feels awake— even as you read this— never goes away. It is fundamental to all of reality. Rocks, trees, birds, plants, animals, people, waterfalls, politics, video games, television, food, junk food, bad feelings, good feelings, sex, abstinence, pain, suffering, fruits, vegetables, up, down, etc.. All these things come after consciousness not before. They’re not technically, but you can see them as separate if you’d like. It may prohibit you from seeing what I’m saying though. Well, it’s one thing to realize that everything is the same thing, but it is important to recognize that whatever everything is must be true otherwise it could not be. This gets confusing because it includes falsehood as well. @Sugarcoat

@James123 Stop with your nonsense.

@Breakingthewall I could tell you my story and what worked for me and yada yada yada, but that would imply a lot of differences between us that I don’t see. It would also be easy for me to say that people will wake up when they want to wake up or that I woke up because I decided that I wanted to. But that would imply a different state that I don’t feel like I ever entered. I could say you will wake up when you wake up whether you want to or not, but then that would imply that you shouldn’t watch Leo’s videos or contemplate or meditate or take care of yourself. Just take care of yourself.

@James123 Don’t take me pointing out how you’re coming across as me being personally offended. It makes you look defensive and manipulative.

@Sugarcoat Consciousness is ‘the state of being awake and aware of one’s surroundings.’ This state is fundamental to reality. Personally, I may prefer the word ‘Awareness’ instead. But it’s also really just ‘God’ and ‘Truth’ as well. However you look at it— it’s all the same thing and really words are just a map to a land you must walk. The map could be burned and the land would remain. Consciousness is just a word— but as accurate as a word can be.

Too many unnecessary layers. There is only ONE thing.

@Sugarcoat Yes, a tomato is the same substance as consciousness; consciousness. Consciousness can be anything and is the only thing. Whatever it decides to be it is. This includes relative concepts. So, you’re right to see how it changes things just don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

Do not patronize me and act like you know the answers to the questions you asked. It is condescending and cold.

Unfortunately what we think and Truth do not always align. No— the point is just Truth. Openness and dissolution have no more to do with Truth than anything else. It’s a bias you have. It’s confusing because you haven’t directly become aware of it. And then it will still be confusing. It is synonymous, though.

@Sugarcoat Yes

@James123 Could you clarify your question? It experiences it without mind because experience is all there is. Experience, awareness, consciousness, etc. that’s all anything is and they are all the same thing. You can experience all of this without a mind because the mind is just a part of experience and experience (awareness, consciousness, etc.) is fundamentally the only thing that exists absolutely.

Hell is whatever you say it is.

@Breakingthewall You’re being overly semantic. Redefining terms like ‘consciousness’ to fit your view or preferred use may feel insightful, but it is actually a counter-productive paradox. The stronger your internal framework becomes, the less communicable it becomes. You’re isolating your ideas by distorting the language used to connect them. This is not sustainable. I’d look into ‘The Nine Stages of Ego Development’ and consider the ‘Expert’ stage’s shortcomings. The stage after, ‘The Achiever’ is interesting as well.

They are both consciousness because they are the same. It is impossible to distinguish the two with words for this reason. They are the same, although it feels they are not. There are differences. But they are the same.

If you think he’s contradicting himself, you’re not understanding him.

@Judy2 I understand however maybe that’s the first emotion you need to keep an eye on. You feel pressure when thinking of taking a break or pausing something you feel is important or a priority over a break. That’s not healthy. It could be caused by a feeling of guilt, about the break itself. Or it could be more about what it is you feel you must accomplish instead of the break. Either way, a balance must be struck. Maybe ask yourself: Why do I feel like x y and z is so important I can not rest? Why do I ramp up activity to compensate for what could already be emotional exhaustion? etc. — Your reasons and answers are the difference between being comfortable and understanding and not. Unfortunately, the answers are personal and nobody will be able to point them out to you without great insight. Even then, you’ll have to realize it yourself too.

@Judy2 If you’re struggling with general emotional regulation, I’d suggest making sure your diet and health is undeniably good. It would also be helpful to set aside ‘don’t think about it time.’ Time where you don’t try to work with your emotions and you focus on something fun. That will free up some energy for the real work and you can start taking notice to how different scenarios affect your emotions, including good ones. You don’t want to just dive into the negative stuff. Try to become more aware of the good feelings too. — I am hyper emotional. I am constantly running possibilities through my head, seeing how I feel, trying to take responsibility, etc. It is overwhelming but it works. If you’re in a good state of mind you can take it one topic at a time. Ex: ‘Dad called’ *something shifts. I’m upset, sad, worried, etc.* Why? *because* Can I do something about the because? Yes or no? If yes, why haven’t I? See how you feel then. If no, why do I let it bother me? See how you feel then. — The issue most people run into is one of these scenarios leads to an endless stream of other explanations and separate scenarios. That’s not a bug it’s a feature. You could have an emotional issue with your father that connects to a discomfort in eating apples or going to the zoo/insert anything, for example. — People also get caught up because often times bad feelings get explained by other bad feelings and guilt is felt for it. This is really just a process of guilt release. It’s important to realize this and not beat yourself up because it’s going to all feel the same until you get some where. — It’s really that simple. You just have to be healthy and take it one step at a time. Proper emotional regulation, really just comes from a grounded sense of self. And the only way you’re gonna have a grounded sense of self is by sensing yourself more! It’s kind of cool really.

@OBEler The line is— you change a thing about Leo and he stops being what he is now. His health issues are apart of his totality and that is fine. There’s nothing about Leo’s health issues that suggest what he is saying about taking on this frame of emotional responsibility is not True. — We also must distinguish emotions from physical sensations or bodily issues. — But, yes— technically Leo’s health issues are ‘imaginary.’ Not to Leo, though, lmao. That’d be like Mario arguing Luigi isn’t real. — Leo isn’t Leo. — @Judy2 For the practical emotional responsibility stuff: the first trap is: if every emotion is your responsibility: everything is your fault. Be careful. Adopting a frame needs to happen gracefully. Most people should try to label and identify emotions and build some sort of routine around it first— to observe how they really happen, without judgement—rather than assuming anything or jumping into a completely new, extreme frame. Keep in mind the value of the frame, though. What it offers and how it is different from the tradeoff most make.

Meditation can have a variety of benefits all of which vary person to person. The type of meditation and how you even view it also changes the outcomes. Mediation can be calming, garner focus, reset bad self talk, be a form of contemplation, etc. It really, really depends on what you want, how it gets done, external factors, etc. — If you’ve been dancing around having the time to meditate for less than an hour than it would maybe be good for you to just try it already. If you’ve done it before and wonder if it just requires more effort or time maybe there’s something else on your mind you should be doing instead. — If it is enlightenment you want, mediation can help— but only if you really, really don’t want to do it. Nobody wakes themselves up from a dream they’re enjoying. Enlightenment will come when you decide the dream is enough.

1. I wouldn’t try salvia. — You can— but you have to die. It is consciousness rendering the human. A human is something. Consciousness can not render nothing. Consciousness renders everything at once, always. A human is only some of that (something). And if you want to be some-thing, like a human— you can not be other-things or every-thing. To be a human is just one of any possibilities and everything is unique. So to go from human to dinosaur, within consciousness— technically seamless. But what seamless actually feels like: death. You can’t be a human and a dinosaur at the same time. That’s something else. If you say so.