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Nobody’s claimed expertise besides you, through your actions. Others may have an answer to your question but your willingness to understand before jumping to conclusions, or Gemini, for all we know, is really stopping you from maintaining conversations, especially productive ones.

@LordFall Yeah, you’re like barely communicating, dude. Natasha and I just happen to be really patient with you at the moment.

Some things can’t be learned without respect.

@LordFall Well, thats just it: you’re questioning. You don’t know. But you’re talking like you are.

And why must it be enjoyable? Why does enjoyment have to be the only explanation for why things are the way they are? Are you really not creative enough to imagine a single alternative? Did you ever consider that the experience of pain was never for the pain itself—that pain might simply be a consequence of something much more beautiful?

If you’re arguing about subjectively, that’s pointless. It’s just another self sealing argument. Have you considered confronting reality instead of all of the possibilities? Please use proper spacing when you do these stream of consciousness style feelings. They’re really hard to understand what you’re trying to say. Missed the point. He couldn’t talk. But he’s better than you at math. Natasha is an allowed to make a general point without explaining herself. You assumed she referred to you and demanded an explanation. You have to earn those. Respectfully, you haven’t demonstrated understanding of any of the points I’ve made. MJ—has a skill he can’t give ‘counter points’ or ‘explain to you.’ Do you acknowledge that?

Stephen Hawking was better at math than you @LordFall— would you beat him up because he could not explain it to you? Micheal Jordan—better basketball player—is it his fault he can’t teach you how to jump high and be tall? Try to demonstrate respect.

I will restate it for you.

@LordFall Where have you deconstructed any points? I see a lot of construction. If you have deconstructed my point, specifically—I haven’t seen it.

I find people often have limiting beliefs in regard to their agency like this. Have you solved your initial question? Or was this thread not meant to be a conversation?

I find intellectual bypassing much more pervasive than spiritual bypassing. At least with spiritual bypassing, there isn’t an illusion of value.

@LordFall Not acknowledging my points is not evidence I did not have any. It just means you didn’t. That is the exact thing you accused @Natasha Tori Maru of just now.

@LordFall Have you ever thrown up or cried ‘pondering’ this?

I think this says too much. One’s ability to or not to counter points is not necessarily evidence of a stronger or weaker argument—more so being correct or not. He’s leveraging your communication abilities to create a limiting belief around his ability to understand. And assuming the understanding is even transferable and we’re not just being patient.

@LordFall If you don’t understand my points, they’re on the record for you to ask about. You don’t have to fake an interest, with me.

AI isn’t going to either.

@LordFall You don’t understand my points, to be fair.

God can be any experience. Selection bias collapses, indecision ensues. Any experience happens. This is one of those experiences. It’s impossible to say it’s better or worse or sadist or masochism, when anything else can happen and there is endless comparisons. Points of reference collapse. Reasoning becomes paradoxical until it evaporates. Consciousness persists.

That’s not how arguments work. She doesn’t have to do anything and she maybe correct. And you may, well, be incorrect. The world doesn’t owe you counter points. I’ve been asking you questions, mainly, trying to understand your take. You’ve had a lot to say, a lot of reasoning and now a little hostility. I did already respond and summarized the problem. It’s been your choice not to ask anything back.

@LordFall Oh, we completely disagree. Don’t be mistaken. I misread the one point. And consider @Natasha Tori Maru could have had more awakenings. Is she supposed to baby you through each rebuttal? No. Show some respect. Not everyone is spiritually bypassing you.

God does not start or end. God is a paradox. I am not atheist. People are mistaking the structure of God for the experience. The power and control comes from being able to conjure any experience. Selection bias immediately breaks. Any experience happens.

I reread/missed your point there. It was a good point.

Why do people assume God has control, though?

@LordFall No, they’re arguing their God choosing to be a bot, like you choosing to play a video game. Edit: I conceded/see that specific point made now.

How does that definition lead to that outcome? And you went from God is sadist > Someone would be sadistic, if they raped someone > VR To bring it back—how do you even know God operates at a level of motive? Ourselves through others, concepts, feelings.