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@Bob Seeker So should I keep the values list as is because it is authentic to me, and trust that it will develop over time?

In a recent thread he claimed that Trump's tax policies actually helped his earnings and that he is "rich". Isn't this anti-spiritual and hypocritical to his teachings? Also, where is the money going? To savings? tf?? Another thing I always found fishy was how he lives in Las Vegas. The city was started by the mafia and his home to the most gaudy flashiest stores, restaurants, and strip clubs, but has close to nothing else to offer. He claims a big reason he lives there is because of taxes. Like jeezus, money is a LOT more important to this guy than I thought.

@Leo Gura What does being uncorrupted by corporate forces mean? Also does the money just sit in a bank account?

@undeather So... he rakes in money just because he can? The last three lines would apply to a lot of people, but unfortunately not to me in this case.

@Godhead You're making a straw man of what I typed out. Of course you don't need to be poor to be spiritual. I'm asking why he needs the money. I wonder what he uses it for. @Yarco Nobody's mad except you lmao. You don't need an income of over 400k to meditate everyday. And, if you were actually spiritually developed you would understand that being impoverished isn't the worst thing in the world. Leo biggest contribution to the world is his YouTube channel which doesn't require a fortune to run. But if he's making lifestyle choices specifically revolving around money, then clearly it's important to him. And, it's definitely not so he can buy nice things. It could be because he wants to be able to afford certain things, but not for the purpose of luxury.

This post comes with a bit of sad news because my friend told me that my other friends didn't want too hangout with me anymore because I was being douchey. I don't want to make this post about me so I'll just say that I'm really sad and confused. Are there any high quality books, seminars etc. that can help me understand friendship and how to have the deep understanding with others I crave. I feel like it's secondary nature for others and for me it's so difficult. It's harder than getting laid. Especially books on male social circles would be really appreciated.

@Nahm no

@Nahm no, she was ugly @Chew211 so can you tell me what they are

@Nahm Well, I can only guess because they cut me off by removing me from the group chat. They said I was being douchey the time we hung out before Thanksgiving. But, if I had to guess it was because they thought I liked their friend to which I responded I didn't and proceeded to name off qualities which I didn't like about her. If I had to guess it was in the works though, this was not just because of a one time thing.

This post comes with a bit of sad news because my friend told me that my other friends didn't want too hangout with me anymore because I was being douchey. I don't want to make this post about me so I'll just say that I'm really sad and confused. Are there any high quality books, seminars etc. that can help me understand friendship and how to have the deep understanding with others I crave. I feel like it's secondary nature for others and for me it's so difficult. It's harder than getting laid. Especially books on male social circles would be really appreciated.

It's a long story, but yesterday I was hanging out with some crips. I was scared shitless the whole time. I feel like I wasn't as scared of stage red people before learning about spiral dynamics. Now that I know what they're capable of, I'm afraid of saying the wrong thing and getting beat the fuck up.

@Terell Kirby It was a college party, and somebody invited crips. Also, I'm from the Bay Area, so I would like to know how to deal with stage red, because the majority of the homelessness population is red

@Eren Eeager @Opo At one point one of the crips made fun of me because they were trying to get with a girl I brought. I'll include it cuz it was kinda funny: Crip: "What you do around here, get faded and shake yo booty?", *nods to his friend* "We should pimp this n*gga out". Obviously, I felt embarrassed and sad, but like what was I gonna do, talk back? I didn't want them to be like "What you say bro?" followed by an ass whooping.

@Opo They would probably laugh at me if I started talking about green stuff, but I'm more curious about how to deal with them. There are a ton of stage red people in America, especially where I'm from.

I would say I'm 40-60% stage green, but the music of stage green is emotionally unbearable. I listen to stage orange music- pop and rap, but whenever someone plays or I try to listen on my own to stage green indie music, my body physically reacts. Why is it so damn emotionally uncomfortable.

@Sempiternity Ok look. 30 hours to explain the level of consciousness of every human being on earth, NOT ABOUT THE SPIRL DYNAMICS OF MUSIC. Earlier, I said that you could probably find examples of music listed on the spiral dynamics website or book. Leo literally saids examples of music genres/artists that are examples of the stage he is talking about. I'm not interested in some technical gotcha, the vast majority of music can be placed into the categories listed by spiral dynamics.

@Carl-Richard @Gregory1 Also songs that inspire social change, like Bob Dylan, or that "if I had a hammer song". I do really love some stage green music. It fills you with love

. @Gregory1 People compromise their core all the time in the music industry to sell an image or make money. This is usually the stage orange corporations who force them. @Sempiternity You're trying to inject nuance into something that's not very complicated. Spiral dynamics is a model, being detailed is not its specialty. Music wise, love and peace is green. Music about killing people is red. I guarantee that if you were to look on the website or in the book, their would be artists or music genres listed as examples of the stages. @Hello from Russia Tribal Music- Purple, N.W.A-Red, The soviet anthem-Blue, EDM-Orange, John Lennon-Green @Javfly33 The majority of society is low conscious. The fact they listen to songs with lyrics like that is more proof

@sleep Authentic rap, for instance is red, but unless black metal is about shooting people and raping woman, it may be harder to classify. @Javfly33 look guys, it's an alpha @Sempiternity It's not an individual factor, it's all factors combined. I get that you like music, and music does have the power to transcend words and pierce our deepest emotions- BUT, don't think that it's above spiral dynamics. If a stage red, blue, orange, green person makes music they suddenly have the ability to go beyond limiting beliefs and stigmas they have?? Don't fuck with me. Music is a reflection of what stage you are. @RickyFitts that actually might be the truth, right there.

@Matthew85 Stage orange music as in produced by record companies for the purpose of making money, and stage green music as music produced by an individual artist (or sometimes with the help of a record company) but more so with the intention of making music that comes from the core and triggers deeper emotion. Also, why would this mean I'm not interpreting my stage of development accurately?

I'm an incoming freshman at a fairly orange university (University of California, Irvine). Because I am trying my best to push myself out of orange and into green, what are some green organizations I can join. I ask because I am going to the club fair tomorrow. Here are the two things I came up with: -Volunteering (tutoring kids in south central) -Smoking weed I wonder if there are communes or specific majors that are green. Maybe I can have a green friend group. Please give me some more organizations in the comments.

I'm an incoming freshman at a fairly orange university (University of California, Irvine). Because I am trying my best to push myself out of orange and into green, what are some green organizations I can join. I ask because I am going to the club fair tomorrow. Here are the literally two things I came up with: -Volunteering (tutoring kids in south central) -Smoking weed I wonder if there are communes or specific majors that are green. Maybe I can have a green friend group. Please give me some more organizations in the comments.

I'm an incoming freshman at a fairly orange university (University of California, Irvine). Because I am trying my best to push myself out of orange and into green, what are some green organizations I can join. I ask because I am going to the club fair tomorrow. Here are the two things I came up with: -Volunteering (tutoring kids in south central) -Smoking weed I wonder if there are communes or specific majors that are green. Maybe I can have a green friend group. Please give me some more organizations in the comments.

@Stovo I'm not saying he's anything, but it's a mystery to me why he chooses to live in Las Vegas of all places. @gettoefl Thanks

@Stovo @Preety_India I don't really get the impression he's in the market for friends. Leo strikes me as the kind of guy who wants to do his own thing, alone. After all, his whole world is online. Also, Las Vegas was built by the mafia, and is mostly known for gambling and prostitution. At worst the people there are stage red; at best they are orange. Stage green people do not move to Vegas, they avoid it.