Breakingthewall

We will see in the future. The British and others are not happy with the Islamic brotherhood. Islam is a mental virus very difficult to cure. Seems that is some cases culture works, but not in all, you could see in this forum. People needs identity, and Islam provides that. Anyway there are smart Muslims that realizes the toxicity of their "religion". In Iran are millions. Maybe Iran is the beginning of the awakening of the Muslims, but probably it's not going to happen

They've already carried out very serious attacks in France, Spain, and GB, but it's different because they're isolated terrorist cells, radicalized jihadists with orders from Syria or any other place. So, how do they could react? Well, the US reacted extremely harshly after 9/11. Let's see if it happens again . All that shit of the genocide and macron crying is by fear. They don't want another. On knees between the Islamics.

@zazen Anyway, you'll agree that the Palestinians are lucky that Israel and Europe are so moral. You can cry all you want, but can you imagine if the Kurds messed with the Turks like that? Or the Chechens with the Russians? Or the Chinese Muslims with the Chinese? Doing something like 7 October? Maybe there would be genocide there, but for real, with phosphorus bombs. In Tokyo, Americans killed 100,000 people in one day with phosphorus, and no one talked about genocide.

Do you seriously think that killing 60,000 people in a city of 2 million in three years, trying to wipe out a militia hiding among the population, is genocide? Well, ok. Maybe you could think that demolish buildings is genocide, or maybe insult people is genocide. You insulted me before, maybe are you one of those genocidal?? Shit. Fucking Monster Genocidal. No, I'm Spanish, the country of the hippies retarded who are going in boats to gaza now to free Palestine in the name of LGTB collective 😅🤣

No, Muslims could govern themselves, but if they share a land, like in Israel, you would agree that it's difficult to deal with those usages. Anyway, it could be possible if the main principle of their culture weren't the dissapearance of Israel. About you said of devastated lands like Iraq or Libya (implying the responsibility of west, that is a reality) , if a dictator like Saddam of gadafi rules, things could be not so extremes, but if there aren't a strong military, the Islamics take the power and something like Afganistán can happen, that is a real dystopia, a hell, or like Irak approving a law about pedophile because Muhammad did. That's insane.

may be, but only in Muslim countries is it punishable by death. In China, Russia, Vietnam, Papua New Guinea, etc., etc., it isn't. (In some African countries is punishable by jail) It's also not permissible to kill your daughter if she doesn't submit to the marriage imposed by her father, nor is it obligation to cover women even if the temperature is 50 degrees. It's not just in the weak and castrated West; it's everywhere. In Mongolia, the Congo, etc. Also, in no other countries but the Muslims it's allowed marry girls of 9, 10, 11 years old putting her lifes in serious risk in the pregnancy. But as Muhammad did, it's allowed They are saying this in Europe, but sure you know that it's a nonsense. Europeans are so emotional, like narcissist teenagers. You are right saying that we are a civilization of weak and very stupid people, I'm 100% agree

@zazen (cant remove quote) Have you ever heard of honor killings, where parents or brothers kill a girl for not marrying the person they're ordered to and are later acquitted by the court? It's very common in the Islamic world, although it's normal for the woman to obey. The countries where homosexuality is officially punishable by death are: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria (northern states), Afghanistan, Mauritania, Pakistan, Brunei. Regarding what you say about colonialism, perhaps it is. Then call it colonialism, not genocide.

@zazen The Nakba occurred after the Palestinian defeat in a war they started. After each defeat, they lost territory. Palestinians can live under the State of Israel, but they cannot self-determine. Like any other Muslim group in the Gulf, they end up ruled by radical Islam, which hangs homosexuals, stones adulterers, allows forced marriages, and has Israel as its mortal enemy, brainwashed by the islamism. The other option is that the Islamic dictatorship will be deposed by a military dictator, as in Syria or Egypt, and that this dictator will be tolerant of Israel out of self-interest against its population. In Iraq, parliament has just approved the marriage of 9-year-old girls. It is better to protect Muslims from these practices, as well as stoning women, the murder of gays, and the obligation to wear a hood under penalty of death. It is not good for human beings. It's sad that they have that tendency, and seems inevitable, but a democratic country like Israel can't allow that political tendency in its territory. If in the future the Muslims show sanity and will to develop as society, stopping seeing martyrdom as main value and goal in life, then they could claim self determination in Israel. For now seems better to protect the humanity from this strange behavior Anyway, just a reflection: imagine that Jews never came to Palestine. How would be Palestine now? Would Palestine exist, or maybe if would be absorbed by another country. If don't, how would be it now? A good place to live? What kind of place?

(Impossible unquote sorry) Weed is harmful, but alcohol is more so. Those who become addicted to something do so because of their inner emptiness, unbalance, not because of the substance itself. Some substances, like methamphetamine, cocaine, or heroin, are very destructive and must be limited and prosecuted. Others, like alcohol and marijuana, are unavoidable. Those who are addicted are addicts because they can't handle their anxious energy structure. The ideal would be to create harmonious individuals, but realistically, society's path is the opposite, so we must tolerate the lesser evil.

The Palestinians declared several wars of extermination against Israel, supported by coalitions of Arab countries totaling hundreds of millions of inhabitants. Unfortunately, they lost, and were therefore unable to establish their dreamed-of Islamic utopia where gays are hanged, women stoned, and girls sold. Such is life. So, all that remains is to reconcile and adapt. Regarding the Israeli economy, it is very strong in technology, agriculture, and other areas. It is a dynamic, living society. Not utopian like Iran, Afghanistan, or Syria, but trying to improve

@zazen(can't remove that quote sorry) @Twentyfirst Genocide is the extermination of an ethnic group or population. For example, the Hutus killed almost a million Tutsis in one month with knives, the Turks a million Armenians, the Nazis 6 million Jews, etc. Do you really think the Israelis are trying to exterminate the Palestinians? Look, the Palestinian can live under the Israeli law without any problem. They must renounce to hang the gays, stone the adulterous and force marriages, I know that this is hard for Muslims, but they can do it in all the other countries around, so they should accept it and live.

Man, that victimism only leads to death. Watch the explanation of Clinton. Who knows what happened 100 years ago, who cares? A lot of shit around the world, let's think in today. Let's see if those Palestinian want to become engineers, doctors, artist, free minds, philosopher, biologist, mystics, models, porn actors, drag queens, astronauts. Life worths more than complain, blame and cry 100 years every single day

Sorry I quoted you by mistake, the message was to zazen, who talked about how the Israeli oppress the Palestinian. I think the Palestinian could talk about oppression when their main goal is developing as society and not the dissapearance of Israel. Difficult since islamist tend always to victimism and revenge, but let's see if they realize that it's impossible, then it's better looking forward than backwards. The problem is that looking forward needs some work, not just cry.

And the conservatives answer: wokism! 2030 agenda! Bill gates is the antichrist!!!!!

The Palestinians tried to expel the Jews since 1948. They failed. After several wars, the Jews emerged as the strongest group. Two million Arabs live in Israel. All the signs in highways and street are in Hebrew and Arabic. They have the right to their religion. In Tel Aviv, the Islamic prayer is sung on the minarets. All the Arab women are covered. Muslims work as doctors, lawyers, and politicians. Enough with this victimism. No one has their knee on anyone's neck. Israel is the only country in the Gulf where you're not sentenced to death for being gay. What are you talking about? Israel is not perfect? Who is? Try to adapt and live, there are many Islamic Utopia around, like Iran, Irak or Yemen. I think there are enough muslim paradises around.

@zazen So you compare Pakistan with the United Kingdom or the United States, and in your opinion, Pakistan is more fair because there's less inequality. You handle a large amount of information, but your processor doesn't seem to be working properly. Do you think forced marriage is a good thing? For some (maybe crazy) people, it's violence and rape. Do you understand that humanity is imperfect and that the West is very imperfect, but it has ideals of liberty and equality, which are never fulfilled, but tend toward them, or are attempted? Do you understand that your admired Islamic world has as its ideal the complete adherence to a book written by a warlord self proclaimed messiah 1,400 years ago? Doesn't that seem like a slightly, shall we say, oppressive philosophy to you? What's the point of that? What's its purpose? To go to paradise? What kind of madness is that?

The violence in '47 was bilateral. The violence in the area had been constant since 1920. Whose fault was it? Blame, blame, blame, blame. Victimism, victimism, victimism. Year 7800. Humanity has transcended matter and has become a flow of pure interdimensional intelligence. Except for a small group who have created an artificial desert in the middle of the Milky Way, where they argue, dressed in funny costumes, about whose fault it was. Thanks to the possibility of time travel, they can review every event at a quantum level. They have all eternity to reach a conclusion.

The intolerance of progressives is that they can't tolerate reality contradicting their ideals. The essential thing is to maintain their moral superiority. If the facts later contradict their versions, they cover their ears and shout: "Lalalalalala!" Because what matters here is that they are good and others are bad. They are like narcissistic teenagers

If what you say had been done, it would have been a temporary arrangement. Hamas would have found other leaders, children would still be educated in self-immolation as the supreme value and in hatred of Jews as the absolute paradigm, and in three years there would have been another war. It seems people have trouble understanding that until the Palestinians focus on the positive, that is, on the future of their children, and not on the negative, the disappearance of Israel, there will be no future for them. But the problem with Islam is that for them, the only interesting future is Allah's paradise; on Earth, it's all victimhood and hatred of those who are different. Black-hooded party.

The European welfare society is comfortable and friendly, but it produces soft, unmotivated individuals. This might not be a problem if we didn't live in a competitive world with many billion of poor people who want to be rich, and who lurk behind you to claim their legitimate right to be where you are by virtue of their aggressiveness, ambition, and determination. So, perhaps the welfare society will take you to where they are, in misery. Just a possibility.

This "me" isn't in any.place, any place happens in that "me" . What we call me or self or center is the reality taking a definite form. There is not difference between the ego or the absolute reality, both are exactly the same. The self is the absolute reality with the structure of a human self. This human structure is very deep. In fact it's infinitely deep, without bottom. Let's see what happens when this structure ends, or changes . Maybe it's an experience that we can be aware of, who knows

To say more: I bet that the war in gaza is going to end in few days and Donald is going to get the Nobel prize, the final joke. I bet a dinner with you, raze, if you promise don't stab me.

I don't care if you are Muslim or not, I thought you are because you show the usual victimism that Muslims do, it's the same if you are christian or atheist. With those words you just show your lack of mental freedom, seems that you are a hooligan. Maybe you are not Muslim, but you are not free at all. I just expressed an opinion, if you don't like, that's life. Just wait 1 year and we will see who's right. If you are, I will remember you it

When? If I remember well he's Muslim living in London. My mother was Muslim btw, and she become Christian. My grand parents were Muslim and my aunt I don't think that Israeli behavior is perfect at all, settlement are very bad and many other things. I said that the attitude in the invasión of gaza in my opinion was the best possiblity possible due the circumstances. It's my opinion, could be much worse, and I think that it's the beginning of the peace in my opinion. Just my opinion, then in 1 or 2 years, we will see if I'm right or absolutely wrong