Breakingthewall

So you and Frank yang are talking about ego cessation, no a real cessation of existence.

here is the main misunderstanding. the nothingness is, and it is you. This is not a matter of logic, it is a realization, mystical experience, or whatever you want to call it. it is to realize the being, the existence, what you are. nonexistence cannot be thought, it does not exist unless it is eternal and it cannot be eternal since then there couldn't be existence. if now you immerse yourself in non-existence, and then come out of it, how long have you been in non-existence? No time, zero. because it does not exist. The empty existence, the void is not temporary, is eternal. it is what there is, and it is still being, it does not pass, it is reality. I said that a second is the same as a thousand, but it is a bad example because there are no seconds. is, period. you can say: it is temporary because it fills up with things, here we are. but it's not like that. that's why they call it a dream. It's emptiness right now, seeming like it's not Yeah, because it's Impossible to contemplate the non existence. It doesn't exist

let imagine (although it's Impossible) that reality "was" non-existence. and suddenly existence arises. we know that existence is right now, undeniable. "was" with "" because if there is existence, there was never nonexistence, due to the very nature of nonexistence (no exist). and most importantly ... there never will be. because the current existence is not temporary. it doesn't last long, it just is. it is the same if it "lasts" a second, or 10 to the power of whatever. Is now, and on its edges or limits, there is nonexistence ... that it does not exist. there are no borders or limits, only present eternal existence.

existence does not know or feel anything, it just exists. pure existence, no more. the infinite emptiness that is. Feeling or knowing is apparent, it is what seems to be happening in the current experience of having a body. existence only exists, is everything Yeah more or less. or rather it is my deduction of what remains if you delete all the content of the current experience

There are no moments that you have experienced that no longer exist, there is only present, but seems that is changing because the apparent experience, like watching a movie. what there can be is the end of the apparent experience, that is, the end of the content, with the death of the body. without the sensory and mental content that remains? the pure being, so pure existence, that does not pass, which is what it has always been. this cannot not be, or go from being to not being. It is out of time, it is the emptiness by definition.

the void is totally formless, without limit. without events so it is still, it does not happen. it is the pure, eternal being in its stillness, what we really are. The difficult thing for me to understand is: how do it dreams? I guess the answer is: because it is infinite. there is no before the big bang. the void is now, and the experience that is apparently occurring, too. That's why is called dream

That have the same meaning than a mother hugging her baby: none. All is empty, the meaning is ego, software. A torturer of the middle ages in action is the same love as jesus. mmm I was seeing it very clear, obvious, and now it has been veiled. a voice tells me, it can't be, there is good and bad. But I know it's my ego that hates meaninglessness .reality is neutral. the good thing is that reality is glory. but neutral

we don't have parents or anything, it's all the ego's space opera. a real pain in the ass that is out there for us to do what we have to do. sometimes I think that by freeing yourself from the matrix we are going against our human nature. we are programmed to be immersed in all that shit. the reality is that our life is as personal as that of a sardine, all are tricks for the puppet to dance. there are no parents, no bmw, no history, there is only the current experience, no more, within which is also the ego software with all its movie nonsense

the chair does not want to be a chair, so you can put the ass of an elephant in it that will be just as happy as with yours on top

the chair has no preferences, since preferences are a tool for survival and the chair does not need to survive. he's just as happy being a chair as he is burning and going up in smoke

It's no more than you ego facing his dissolution. keep in mind that the ego is no joke, it is very powerful. I had that experience, it's terror. the infinite nothingness swallows you and annihilates you, and there is no god of love, only death at an unimaginable level. It is your ego that you do not want to let go. that very experience is god without your ego screaming. I had to do it many more times and meditate many hours daily for almost a year until I was able to let go. a real job. I'd say you have to or you can get sick. It is what I felt, it was not an option, it was necessary. the result is liberation

They are totally different. the mdma is somehow psychedelic. take out of you love towards others, desire to communicate freely, to open up. a few years ago I saw the need to use it. I needed to open up to others. The result was a year of 3-day non-stop parties. It was useful, I got what I needed. I feel compassion for the people who do this a permanent way of life. It seems very sweet, but it ends up being completely false. edonism

talking about this topic with someone who is not interested in it is nonsense. Imagine that 2 years ago, or 8 years ago, or whenever you had no interest in this, someone gave you a conference about spirituality and non-duality. what would you think?

@The0Self thanks for trying to explain

@The0Self but there is an inherent happiness from the absence or at least relaxation of the ego, right? emptiness is happiness, or perhaps, the absence of unhappiness is happiness, or seems happiness

So, what is your actual state, life, relationships with other people? does emptiness induce you to apathy? are you happy, or since there is no self you are neither happy nor unhappy? because even if you know that there is no self, you can invoke the self and be it, right? A light self who can enjoy of what it is, only because it is...or not?

there is nothing to seek, the i must withdraw and stop believing that it is the one who receives the experience, with which only experience remains, and the i sees that it is part of the experience, not its focus. There is only experience empty of meaning

you do not need high states, you need to remove the shadow of the ego. if there is no ego, there is only perfection. perfection is not a good or bad feeling, it is what it is, the present moment without interpretation or projection

@khalifa i have had a similar problem but only a few days. I'm sure it's an energy block, not neurological at all. you have started something and you have not finished it. I would try to finish it, having blocked energy feels like something very negative, dangerous

@FlyingLotus thank you , good koans , I'm feeling enlightened right now??

I know that idea, but...god has? it is putting human ideas to God. that he is bored, that he plays ... I do not think that is so. but who knows!

@Inliytened1 .then you think that there is no process, that there is no evolution. that God does not need to learn from himself ... it is possible. completely counterintuitive, but possible. But why that little probes?

in what minute does that appear? Hehe

even an infinite intelligence has to learn ... right? It starts from the basics and increases in complexity. Or so it seems. although once I clearly realized that no, that there is no process, there was no big bang, God does not create by steps. it just seems like it. What is the reality? I don't know

I would say yes. imagine there is a big bang and something emerges out of nothingness. the idea of "things", protons, elementary particles, forces, physical laws. all this to form a rock. an entity of enormous complexity. the universe is that rock, half a meter, let's say. a divine rock. manifested existence. so yes, it has a pov