Breakingthewall

@kbone another detail. How many words have you written in this forum? Quite a few, right? Very long posts. A question for anyone who participates here and reads the messages. What have you said? Have you said anything? I mean, besides that, you've meditated in the Himalayas, that your brothers are losers and you are a winner, and that you've visited Japanese temples and convoluted messages in which you try to show off your spiritual erudition. Anything concrete that anyone remembers? Nothing. Everything revolves around you or confronting others. It's extremely easy to see right through you. a game.

No, you are dreaming that you are in a beach. It's a reality. Being technical, it involves trillions of neural connections in which quadrillions of subatomic particles interact, creating an energetic cloud of complexity beyond what humans can intuit, perfectly synchronized to make that dream of the beach appear. Why this is not real?

Because it's obvious. Every time you talk to someone, your attitude is competition . You try to cut off their outlets with arguments unrelated to the conversation. You present a conceptual framework, and when the other person refutes it, you tell them that what they've said are just concepts and that they should stop thinking. When the other person refutes you again you tell them they're suffering and that you're sorry, that you wish they'd stop suffering. And when you have no other options, you say: "I love you, brother.💘" All of this is absolutely sterile. Your only real goal is to see yourself as a guru and for others to perceive you as such. It's clear that you're upset and irritated, but you repress it because you think a guru should display equanimity. You repeat many times that you are enlightened. But anyone who isn't blind can see right through these games

All of your speech has the smell of the Subtle self-affirmation, whereby you very subtly try to put down your "opponent." except when you want to make an "ally". Perhaps you aren't aware of it. You've already mentioned that your siblings failed in their marriages, unlike you, who succeeded. In all your interactions, you subtly position yourself above. You're not obvious like James, who is a fun archetype of the narcissistic guru wannabe. You're much more experienced and intelligent, and are capable of sometimes letting your narcissism down so that your opponent lowers their guard. All of these strategies are created naturally over a long period of relational dynamics. You can't fool me for a moment, so I interact with you as a game, the same as with James. I know you're completely impervious to what anyone says because you see everything as competition (even if you're not aware of it), but conversation creates a picture that anyone with any vision can see and read, and thus understand how wounded egos work, needing to absorb energy from other egos and unable to connect in a real way.

Nothing means the absence of something. So, to say that reality is something or nothing is meaningless. Both concepts are within relative reality and are opposed to each other. You can say: there is nothing of sugar. But you can't say: there is absolutely nothing, since you are saying it. Nothing as absolute is meaningless. It is something that is said in spirituality when you mix the relative with the absolute. About saying that reality in nothing because if has no substance, what is substance? Atoms? They can be a lot of different manifestations of reality. Gravity for example. Is gravity nothing because has no substance? Of because its imaginary? What means imaginary? Opposite to real? Why?

@kbone I just perceive that you are a real narcissist, same than james. People absolutely focused in their self images that mix some true stories with lies and when they say : I love you brother 💘, they mean the opposite. Passive aggressive behavior, wounded ego, need of construct a beautiful self image . The problem with spirituality is that a lot of those vampires find a place to seduce weak people, that's why spirituality is so false. I shouldn't waste my time with people like you because it's bad energy, but same time it's a teach because it's extremely important to identify those behaviors anywhere as fast as possible. A lot of people have a bit of that, but only some are full immersed in it. Very toxic and dangerous if you are ignorant

if there is an appearance there is something. Nothing is simply nothing. I don't know how you arrived to the conclusion about that a dream is nothing. It's a dream

I'm Spanish, I spoke with you in Spanish a couple of years ago, javfly also. Shame you forgot. Maybe you changed your spirit for a Turkish Sufi master

So beautiful. I'm falling in love. O my god. You are so amazing 😍 Narcissistic on fire. I can't avoid interacting with you my vampires, it's addictive

Really? Last time you spoke perfect Spanish and you lived in new York and work in trade . In fact an user, javfly, who's Spanish and with I had some contact, told me that he spoke by phone a couple of times with you and you were latino originally. Now Turkish fits more to your self image? Why?

But there is something appearing or not?

Yeah, thanks, you are very kind and I appreciate a lot your teachings. You are like the father that I need and I never had. Really reading you I feel your authenticity and the love that emanates of your being 😅🤣

Then why it's there? Then why there is an illusion?

@kbone i try to talk with you being polite when I perceive your limitation very clearly. It's absolutely obvious you're speaking from a wounded ego, like James. You're staring at the reinforced concrete wall of narcissism. It's maddening to talk to people who exhibit this trait because they only see their projections. So I'm going to try to stop interacting with those who operate at that level. From experience, I know it's practically impossible for them to break out of it unless they experience a crisis of extreme severity. Anyway when I interact with severe narcissist like james or kbone, it's not trying a communication with them but as an exercise and to show their face , it's like a hobby , because I know that real communication is absolutely impossible, they only communicate with themselves To anyone who's reading this: in life it's extremely important understanding and identify the narcissist behavior. If you do, all your social interaction will be much clean, if you don't do, you will fall in that madness and confusion. Family, couple, friends, work, spirituality....it's in any area. Read james123, it's a extremely clear example. Don't focus on what he says, focus on the intention behind it. Is he seeking clarity? Communication? Or perhaps seeking to appear? To stand out? To be more? Does he speak from his center or from the periphery? From the periphery implies he operates from outside to feed his self-image; from the center implies he opens his perception and shares his vision. Kbone is more subtle because he's more intelligent, and it's harder to grasp his game. He's a complete narcissist, absolutely focused on his self-image but with culture and a well-developed conceptual framework, then the self image that he's feeding is more complex, not so simple like james. With lot of nuances but essentially the same. Focus on what emanates from him, feel it. Do you feel expansion or contraction? His speech aims at real communication or at the construction of "someone." It's simple; if you don't develop this intuition, you're lost.

That's not true, the absolute reality awakes through you. If you look closely, you'll see that there's an existence happening. All of that is something, isn't it? It's reality manifesting itself.

@Yeah Yeah I wouldn't believe histories like solipsism, If you want to break through the ego barrier, you can, but you have to be completely independent and have an unbreakable will to do so. Your situation seems difficult, so you don't have any other options. But if you don't have absolute self-confidence, it's not easy. Anyway Just start.

In infinity, much and little are the same; everything is infinite. That is to say, whether your existence is that of an ant or that of millions of interdimensional beings with lives that last as long as this universe, it's exactly the same: infinite in essence, finite in form.

😭 I said that as a joke. Anyway, you choose being in your character, enjoy it

That's just a thought, stop thinking and enlightenment is already the case. Why are you suffering brother? I love you 💘 @James123 really you don't see it? Really? Look, it's like you've built up an idea of what an enlightened person should be like, and then you act the way that person is supposed to, limiting yourself completely and thus eliminating any real possibility. You're a Taliban of enlightenment, simply because your ego demands to be enlightened. You forbid yourself any doubt or any real depth because that would imply that you're not enlightened, which is unacceptable, impossible, horrible. If you could choice between obtaining the Enlightened certification and remaining in your current limited state, or recognizing that there's more to deepening and infinitely opening your being, you would choose the first, since the only important thing to you is the official Enlightened certification. Of course, now you'll think that an Enlightened person is rejected and even crucified, and they respond with love and forgiveness, like your counterpart Jesus Christ, and you'll act accordingly. Don't you really realize what it means to process like this? It's radical narcissism, maximum. This has terrible consequences in life. I'm not saying this to compete with you, but to help you, seriously.

Yes it seems as you say, I just read superficially, it's a ping pong game, like any conversation with james. @James123 you could do as you want but what you are pointing is just false, then better show it.

I think that maybe you believe what you are saying. I don't know how make you see what you are doing, maybe it's just impossible

@James123 I remember your two trips report when you took 10 gr of mushroom perfectly, was absolute nihilism, nothing. Then you changed the version telling that you got enlightened, but before you always was saying: reality is nothing, and putting videos of papaji. Now you ve change to a more positive version with love, but the point for you is showing the others that you are enlightened. You should ask yourself: why am I doing it? It's something deep, a need. What if you are honest at least once? In all the interactions with people you only want to take, like a vampire. Do you think that's not obvious? Be brave and break your barrier, be honest, show your true face. Or your plan is searching people around to vampirize them , like if you were sadhguru or any of those vampires? You are not going to achieve it, your game is too obvious Anyway, it's interesting like an example

@SOUL you are trying to have a discussion when james is lying to you, do you see it, right? If you tell him something, he'll tell you the opposite, or something unrelated that sounds mysterious to win you over (according to him). And if you give him impossible-to-refute arguments, he'll tell you those are just words, or "I love you, brother," and put a heart emoji in it, when he's really projecting aggression toward you. This is how a narcissist behaves in an interaction: always lying. But he doesn't realize it.

Id say that existence is absolutely logic because logic means relationship. The fact of that a relationship is possible implies it's coherence. The point is that existence is the manifestation of reality, not reality itself. Reality is not logic because it's not a relationship, it's absolute. Relationship means relative, absolute means without relationship

I just remembered a experience with 5 meo. I've had many negative experiences, nihilistic, extremely depressing. So, once, I decided to take 5 meo for 4 days straight. It was extremely terrifying to me. The first day, horribly empty nihilism. The second day, I do it again, and again: reality is dead, infinite emptiness. Horrible, but well, now I know what it is. I think, well, this was what I had to see today. You have to be patient. After 5 seconds, I thought, no, i have to break. So, I put a lot of 5 meo in the pipe without weighing it and vaporized it. And I thought, show me the truth or kill me (I know it sounds like a silly heroic novel, but I thought those exact words). Then, reality broke, and life flowed into it, the inexhaustible source of absolute plenitude, infinitely alive infinity, its infinite depth, so absolutely alive that you disappear. There is only a bottomless abyss of absolute life. It is infinite glory. "More" is impossible; you have it all. Infinitely more than your wildest dreams. More than infinite universes, more than God, it's simply total. Then, in your mind, an idea arises: Yeeeeeeeessssss, hallelujah, hallelujah. The gap has been broken, the glass has been filled, something irreversible has happened. I've broken through the doors of heaven. After 5 minutes, it closes, but you already know where to aim. That first glimpse is absolutely essential.