Breakingthewall

If you become concious of the absolute truth it's not the absolute truth, it's relative to you. You can be the absolute truth, without "being concious of", that's why it's unthinkable and impossible to remember But about what I said of the accident and no thought. Don't you understand that without thought it's still separation?

That is conceptual. Conceptual things have an energetic basis. If you don't understand that thoughts are a consequence, not a cause, you don't understand the dynamics of closure. You can have a completely silent and closed mind. For example, you can have an accident and become a being who can't even eat alone, or articulate a simple thought, and be constantly terrified. Let's see if you can have a conversation and you don't answer: brother, stop mental masturbation. You answered leo without those tricks right? Because he's the owner of the forum. Then answer me without your usual lie. Could you?

That's very dangerous territory. First, you define enlightenment as the end of suffering and immortality, something anyone would want, the most any human being can aspire to. And then you say you can give that in exchange for money.

Yeah, the remedy is that, not exactly non duality but spiritual development. The need to connect with others is inevitable; we're human. Connecting from a self-image is misery; you're like a beggar asking for alms. The point is to connect from an open perspective, letting what's inside you flow, and seeking real connection.

Agree, I think he thought he has powers and he can enlighten people by skype. Crazy right?

Today, we're all like this. The key is to realize it and focus on substance, not appearance. The true narcissist is the one who can't stand it. The pressure is so great that he invents a parallel reality bubble in which he designs a brilliant self-image and believes it. Since this is a distortion, he always needs validation, so his entire speech, in one way or another, revolves around that self-image. Your speech now revolves around your truth. The difference is essential.

If you were a narcissist you couldn't say that. Everyone has the self image around, almost nobody is totally free, it's very difficult, but the narcissist is who believes their lies, it's bit psychotic

Narcissist is someone who put first his self image and then the reality. Narcissist is who believes his lies, because his emotional system doesn't allow him another option. He can't be naked, true, even being alone, he needs always a lot of stories about himself rounding is his mind, and when he relate with anyone he does from that need, to feed his self image. He can seem nice but he's always a scammer, a vampire. Seems that he gives but it's to take It's a stupid attitude, because leads to madness, very bad life

Psychology is extremely important, people is full lies. Layer under later under layer, like an onion

Well, for me, an association that promotes the acceptance of a Messiah as an absolute ontological truth is mental and spiritual abuse. The definitions of abuse are flexible; everyone draws the red line where they see it.

This is not about enlightenment, it's about psychology, very useful imo.

Not everywhere, just where it is. Everyone has some narcissism, it's important to understand it. Yah you are right, nothing wrong, and just 10.000 us in 1 year Btw nahm used to say that he is millionaire due his 3 business Anyway, let's forget the conversation, you are right, he's the most legit person. I understand your point, you judge according your emotions. It's ok.

@kbone sure but all of your speech have a center: you. Even indirectly, then the vibration is always, let's say difficult. Anyway, if you want to criticize or dismantle what I say about spirituality, reality, etc., using logic, reality, pointing out errors, welcome.

Nahm was the most legit person on the forum. How could be legit someone who accept 10 k for transmission to enlightenment from a guy who's depressed and lost? Anyway, bad for my side mentioning for that reason someone who is not here for answering I don't mean that they should be perfect, but at least not essentially liars 😅. Most of them really believe that they are legit, enlightened, saint and everything, it's the mechanics of narcissism, it's very surprising mental structure. I will start a thread about narcissism, it's extremely interesting topic

Maybe not always, Isha is a cult and Sadhguru their divinity, but doesn't seem dangerous or abusive.

Many people don't realize that all their energy revolves around their self-image. I think we've all fallen into that at some point in our lives. When you're a teenager, it's almost impossible to avoid it. The point is to realize it and see the depth of your corruption, commit to the truth, and polish yourself as much as possible, which will never be perfect.

@Sugarcoat Even with high doses, the experience was the same: dead infinity. It's almost mechanical; your mental structure closes, like a reinforced door. In my experience, at a given moment it opens. It's absolutely real, and since you ve been tried, you have nothing to lose. It's quite intimidating, but the worst possible experience is that one: the dead void. For me, it's worse than any horrible trip; the sensation is devastating, absolutely crushing. It's certainly not the end, so keep drilling.

He said for example this: My beloveds, the being that you are is not being. Because being is not. What is not, is what is. And that, of course, is the Supreme Being that cannot be said, but I say it because the Silence told me so. And the Silence is my Teacher. Though I am its Teacher as well. All is One. And One is I. So welcome to me.” Or Don't eat fruit with the peel on it. That prevents the kundalini from rising. But if you've already eaten it, don't worry: it's all maya.

Even if consciousness functions through an interface like the brain, it would be an essential property of the universe, or of reality. Reality would create brains through which consciousness would be structured in a certain way. If there is consciousness, as we see, there is infinite consciousness. This doesn't mean that there is only consciousness, but that consciousness emerges in reality infinitely. Even odds numbers are also infinite and are not the entirety of reality.

Everyone is corrupt, the difference lies in where you point, towards the lie or the truth.

What can I do If I smell the liars from miles? Do you remember nahm? You think he was legit .be careful! Some people are dangerous, no jokes. He stole 10 k dollars to an user, raptorsin, promising enlightenment by transmission, and you still thought that maybe he's legit. Spirituality is full of that people . Of better, that people converges in spirituality. I think it's good idea to point it.

I don't know what you mean .I'd say that you neither,but it's enough, I think it's obvious for anyone.

An attitude of detachment can be more fluid, calm, happy, or whatever, depending on the circumstances, but it doesn't mean enlightenment. Enlightenment can bring detachment, but detachment doesn't bring enlightenment. Detachment can be irresponsibility, avoidance, many things. The spirituality that equates enlightenment with the end of suffering categorizes the human state of mind into attached and detached, full or empty. It is the Buddhist approach, which denies a human facet as flawed. For them, being human is a mistake; the ideal would be to be a plant. So, they, who are much more intelligent than reality, strive hard to completely repress a part of their nature and become plants. Now is when you say: brother, you are attached to the mind. Drop the thought and the enlightenment is the case. No, being a plant is not enlightenment, we are humans, if someone doesn't like, what to do? Maybe in next life they will be a ficus

@James123 you have convinced me, you are like Jesus, Buddha and Ramakrishna united in one super sayan mystical saint who lies in every word that he says. Enjoy the ego trip. I know that for you is very important acting as an enlightened being, but sometimes you could behave natural, it's liberating.

I just did an objective analysis, as they ask . I hope it can be helpful . In my opinion spirituality is very serious topic , then I think that wannabe narcissist gurus should be revealed. If you think I'm too anything, just tell me, but imo I'm in the correct balance between passive and aggressive. Just pointing what's true