Breakingthewall

Because if you internalize that reality is exactly consciousness, you unconsciously create a mental framework in which consciousness is something taking forms, and you believe it, it's like you really see it, and you believe that's enlightenment when it's just another frame. The point is to break the frame, not to create another one. And the word consciousness, at least for me, is a closure. Let's see, you might agree that reality is you, but you perceive yourself in a limited way. So what you're looking for is to break those limits and perceive yourself as totality, what you ultimately are. Then if you stay in "consciousness," you won't be able to do it. Any closure, any definition, has to disappear. You have to do something real,.a real action outside of the mental framework. Erase the human for a while, and the absolute can manifest. The word "consciousness" is within the human mental framework. The word reality means absolutely nothing because has not opposite, so it's more innocuous.

Sure, psychedelic works but that's depends about some factors. First, each person's innate structure, and second, intention. The intention must be one of openness, dissolution, and surrender. That is, if what you want is to see things, to understand, then you constantly situate yourself in a separate position. If your intention is openness, then it's possible. It's quite simple. At a certain point, you realize that you are not looking at reality, but that you are reality. You truly realize, that there is no outside, there is no observer; this is the reality. Then, the opening can occur, which is that you, as reality, break through the limits. You are total, you have no bottom, and the vitality that emerges and permeates everything is totally obvious. You realize that you are that, that living substance that is synonymous with limitlessness. It's not that it is alive as biology, but that, being limitless, it is, and is total, everything. The point is achieving that openess easy, every day. At first maybe you need psychedelics, then you start to do adjustments in you energetic structure, they happen unconsciously, it's like everything else, if you really want becoming a professional boxer you will do little by little adjustments in your structure in that direction, if you really want openess, same, and things outside start to be synchronized.

You could call it reality , then there is no misunderstanding

Probably it is, those Indian yogis do incredible things but I prefer taking some LSD than training 30 years 😅

I think yes, and nowadays more. But if they start reading neo advaita and current spirituality they will feel that something is wrong. People who has real potential for mysticism use to be intelligent and intuitive, then if all the spirituality is formulated full of paradox, mistakes, twisted statements that are ultimately intended to make the guru appear elevated, basic errors and ideas taken from books without having experienced them, that person will think that spirituality is bullshit for fools who need to escape from reality out of fear

You can call it hologram but what it's sure is an structure, holographic or not

Many people have a wound, a thorn in their heart, a hole in their soul. Many don’t realize it, because that thorn is not something definable, but a configuration in the structure of their psyche, in the existential structure we call human. This energetic structure emits constant vibration, and this vibration is confused with the wound. Negative thoughts, rumination, suffering, dissonance. these are the consequences of a structure that was formed at a given moment and is written in fire. The human psyche works this way. Just as a tree forms its structures from carbon, light, and space, the psyche creates its energetic structures through human relationship. The origin of the wound is always the same: lack of love Once these structures are formed, they are extremely difficult to modify. They are basic, and upon them is erected the structural building of the psyche, the way you are as a human. No matter how much you try to change them, it’s like trying to reshape the structure of a tree. You can bend it a little, change its appearance, cover it in other colors, but it will still be there. When those structures produce suffering, there is a call for change. The only real change is to transcend the psyche, to pass through it and deactivate its charge. To make the structure transparent and operate from openness. There is no trick or escape possible. The thorn will always reveal its reality to you one way or another. You can’t escape. Look: every structure is a structure that gives shape to a matter. This matter is existence, becoming. it is the expression of reality, of the totality. You must make your way toward the total. Open your heart to it. And then realize you are not opening to it, you are opening it within yourself. Let's say that at first you perceive that you are opening your heart to it, then that it is in your heart, and then that you are that. The fire of the total burns the structure, incinerates it, and renders it inert. It remains, but it is transparent. a mere structural support, without poison, without energy. The fire of the total burns like a star for a moment. But if it goes out, the structure gradually regains energetic charge. It must burn just beneath the surface constantly, to keep the structure inert, until you permanently realize that you are the fire. The eternal flame that springs from the unlimited. And any thorn is just the key to open the door. No one can tell you how to do it, because each enigma has its own solution. You are life flowing in the abyss of existence, creating the path with your own movement. Your power is the power of reality, because you are the reality. This perception lies just beneath the surface: expansion that creates universes, dimensions, realities.

I think it happens because the substance erases the load of meaning of the experience, makes your mind empty of meaning, void, then everything seems absolute void, but it's because your heart (metaphorically) is still closed. You erased the meaning of the reality but you didn't open it substance. That substance is you. Then you are closed observing the absolute void, for some people is not bad, like calm, nothing wrong, for others it's very hard nihilism

The people in the past was very ignorant, but nowadays millions have a level of understanding that 100 years ago was impossible. I think it's very important formulating spirituality very clear and without any single mistake, if spirituality is let's say "mysterious", like koans, it's useless, people will think that's bullshit, and they would be right

You could say in that way and you also could say: the fact of an apparent movement and change is happening, even it's the expression of the absolute, then god itself taking a form, veils the absolute nature of god, because the experience drags the perception to the form, making it opaque to the divine nature of the totality. It's the same from another perspective. The point is expressing it in that way that clarifies the most

How are you so sure that I'm lying or I'm wrong or stuck? Btw point something that I said that's wrong, maybe it could help me to see more clear

Then according to you I should lie ? Why?

Seems that you don't understand what I say. I can open myself to the absolute, what I'm doing is finding perspectives that open, to do it more easy and help others to do the same. I can open myself to the absolute total unlimited not totally easy, but quite. Without big psychedelic or anything. I'd say that it's quite obvious what I'm pointing, sorry that you don't see

Exactly, that's the point. If you say god, I agree, I call it totality. But conciousness.....it's like the noise of scratching a blackboard with your nails. Like a door in front of my face that prevents me to realize the absolute, or god. Just my perspective, I understand that about God very good, I am god, god is total, it's everything, and here and now I am that. But that realization is closed by the fact of being human. It's quite simple but very difficult to understand how to dissolve the door

Could be but maybe if you read what I say you could agree, maybe not: Imo the thing is not knowing that reality is conciousness but be one with the absolute. It's the same if you call it conciousness, ok, I can accept that term if I interpret it as reality , but knowing that I am reality, or conciousness, is not important, the point is being it absolutely here and now without any separation, be the totality without hindrance. I think you can't say that what I said is a deep mistake or a trap, maybe it's a different interpretation, but I'm not excluding anything or being close minded. Im not denying the mind, the ideas, the conciousness, god or anything, I just say that what you are is what you are, and to realize it you have to trascend all the barriers and open your being absolutely. Then at least for me, it's not like: I'm conciousness. Because that would be a closure. It's just total, absolute. But of course you can say that this is conciousness of being absolute, but I perceive something let's say distorted in the very moment that I try to define. Then when people say: I'm conciousness taking forms, I immediately perceive a mistake that closes their mind an prevent them to see. But as I said I'm not going to point it again and again or arguing with james or water river and others about this, thats pointless, drain of energy. Anyone can see the thing as then can, that needing I have of correcting anyone is let's say, not necessary anymore.

you could say that it's the same experience from different perspectives. obviously there are other possible perspectives, but you don't need to say that they are "outside", they are inside, interconnected, but separated because the fact of an existing experience means separation, without separation there is no borders, no edges, nothing definite, then no change, no experience. you could say that change is apparent, but anyway it is, then there is separation (apparent if you want) then many possible perspectives. not outside, they are here and now but unfolding infinitely, then the "you" is defined being a perspective. all the perspectives have the same essence/ reality/ substance, so the point is having the ability to put the perspective in background and the substance in the surface, and be one with it. That's what al Hallaj point with all that thing about you and you

I can't avoid 😅😅 how not conciousness is conciousness? Maybe when you say the word conciousness you mean the absolute. If you say that includes not conciousness, it's because that. The problem is semantics, "conciousness" is a word with a concrete meaning , if you use it with another meaning, it's misleading, make people confusing. Maybe I'm not concious about what the world conciousness means for you. I really think that it's a mistake using this word because people always will think that conciousness means perception. Perception means relationship between subject and object. The problem is the word not the idea.

For me the term conciousness is misleading, but as I said I don't want to argue about it and if you don't like I spread a different perspective I respect it. If fact it's better stopping those arguments that are a waste of energy, seems that I can't avoid for some reason but Im done with ontology discussion exactly after this moment .

Depending. If you realize the scope of cause-and-effect relationships, your ethics become absolutely solid, since you're aware that, given the structure of reality, any unaligned action is stupid. It's like shooting yourself in the foot. It's selfish from some perspective, but selfless in the sense that this concrete self is not the center, this is a limited perspective, not wrong, just limited. Almost everyone operates from this limited perspective, they they act accordingly it. It's not that they are "bad", it's that they act accordingly their perspective, like anyone

It's a perspective, if it's wrong you can explain me why, but anyway, ok, sorry , I will stop blasphemy. It's your place, your rules. It's nonsense arguing about this, and waste of energy, so I'm done. I'm going to talk only about the absolute and psychology. Ontology I'm done, doesn't leads anywhere

Obvious, no human brain no human structure. But that's not "materialistic paradigm", the brain is an energetic construction that arises in the reality, it's not "material", that is meaningless, it exist, it's an structure, same that anything else that exists. It's the result of the structure of life that's the result of the structure of universe that's the result of the structure of the existence itself that's a manifestation of the absolute limitless. It's quite simple imo

You are defining it calling it conciousness. Conciousness is something definite: perception. The fact of being aware. Saying that reality is conciousness is a mistake but anyway, I don't want to start those discussions again and again

conciousness is the fact of perceiving, it's relative to anything else. Without difference and change there is no conciousness. Imagine no change and no difference, can you? No, because it's impossible. Then conciousness is something that arises due the movement, then not fundamental.

You as a human structure are a product of your brain that is product of the reality. You as an structure can be open to your real nature, that is the nature of everything. With that structure reality perceives itself. It can do in infinite perspectives, all are the same reality. That about where are you is meaningless, I'm in the subway now, and? What is the point is being open to the absolute.

Then why you always say that reality is before your birth? Yes anything is happening now, but happened yesterday, and will happen tomorrow. It's a thought, but a thought that describe a reality