Breakingthewall

Right, control anything is just repression. Anger must be transcended. Well, "must", just if you want to deepen what you are. if that doesn't matter to you, you don't have to do anything. there is no good or bad, you're right. If you hit your finger with a hammer, that's not "bad", it's just a source of pain. The pain is not bad, it's just pain. If there is anger in you, that will enhance the appearance of division between you and the other. hate is the maximum division, love is unity. they are not opposites, one is real and the other is false. anger binds you in falsehood. is that bad? no it's just false

It's a crazy advice but not for that reason wrong. crazy because it's too risky, but the idea makes sense. Leo is much more penetrating than Martin Ball. I'm sure he will find the perfect solution, I'm not worried at all

Yeah , the idea ego is just a pointer to point the confusion that keeps us blind to the truth. the ego is the fear that originates in social interaction since the human needs others to survive. acceptance is essential. If they throw you out of the cave you are dead, this is genetically encoded. The virtual reality game, as you say, is enormously complicated, since the first thing that is implanted in the character is fear and attachment, and from those seeds a tree grows with thousands of ramifications to which language, with its power, endows with enormous complexity. if you want to be free you have to completely transcend the primordial fear and attachment to the other, the original sin that makes humans the lost being that they are. this is what I call ego.

Could be true. there is truth in those lines, so for now you have my credit. But imo you are too fast to see the ignorance in others and quite slow, even blind, to see his wisdom, so focused in your (possible real) wisdom Anyway, I'm genuinely happy to having been wrong in my judgement

@Edvardas anyway, reading you again, there is a smell of the leos ideas, too much security, funny arrogance, lack of life...i don't know, enigma, but still... The needle wants to point to: fake. It would be a shame, but it is what is most abundant here and those who speak with more confidence. I hope you are not one of them

well, I have to say that when I wrote that I doubted right away, because there is a kind of understanding that goes beyond the ego, so what you say is true and has foundation. maybe I was wrong in my judgment or at least in part. but I was referring to what you said about: reality is a dream of the mind of god. This is pure conceptual understanding, things are not like that, they are not defined and concrete. This is the understanding of the ego to which I refer and the one that emerged from your speech. I have to say that at the beginning and in other posts you seemed advanced and accurate to me, so I admit that perhaps I was wrong in calling you fake. If so, I'm glad. I am delighted to meet people deeper and more intelligent than me, if this were the case

My only doubt is if you are deceived or if you are a phony who intentionally acts as such in order to show superiority and make fun of others. hard to know. I guess a mix of both. It seems very obvious that you cannot go beyond the conceptual. But at first i ve doubts, you are smart. Well, thanks for the conversation

@Edvardas but another opportunity. Show me exactly where I talked about the ego in a wrong way. Explain. Show that you aren't just a fake that just want to feel superior

Funny, we think the same about each other. For me you are stuck in the concept and the learned idea and you don't even realize it. and you interpret the one who questions as ignorant while you project total security, like a teacher. verdict: fake

The truth cannot be given, you are right. Neither said, or thought. The truth is totally actual, can only be and realized in the present moment. The truth would blow up in our faces if it weren't for the many layers of fear with which we cover it. If the doors of perception were opened, reality would show itself as it is: infinite. but we have cover it with many layers of fear that are like blinders on the donkey: they only let us see what we have to see to be what we are

Well, you said I'm deeply confused, but you didn't explain in what.

I just said maybe. I doubt about anything. Leo at the end is just a.voice in my mind...I'm sorry if it bothered you that I doubt someone you believe so fervently in.

I'm not sure if knowing that can help you at all. know that or anything else. knowing is a thing of the ego. understand too. the ego must understand itself for liberation to occur, but the ego cannot understand reality. I don't know to what extent Leo is wrong. We take it for granted that Leo knows what he's doing, but there's a possibility he's heading down the wrong path. Are you realizing right now that reality is like a "dream" of god and that "you" are god, or it's a realization that you had on psychedelic and now you, the ego, is remembering? Because if it's so....are you sure that it happened? It's just more ego

totally agree. Too advanced ideas are going to pollute the mind. Leo's teachings are not teachings, they are stories from an explorer. It is as if I am on the moon and I tell you what it is like to be there. that's not going to help you get there

The problem is that you can be completely aware that it's reality one moment and then lose it, so it becomes an idea, like: I'm god having a hallucination. which has no value. realizing that really in real time yes, that is the true liberation, when the duality I/other completely disappears, but is it possible to be in it for more than a few seconds? very difficult for me, the mind begins to elaborate immediately, over all about the others. How's possible that there are not others? But in a way they exist, etc.

Maybe, but knowing this will not set you free. I have never read Ralston, since I have asked you and you have answered me, I will start something about him

Who is a good teacher in your opinion?

Not believing, understanding what are you. But it's very difficult to understand yourself. a system cannot be known from inside the system. you have to go outside, but there is no outside. it's more complicated than you think true liberation is the dissolution of the self. since the self is the prison. It is the energy that wants, that search, that need, that fears. but that energy appears for a reason. in theory it is impossible to be without it and stay alive, since its function is survival. you have to be extremely subtle to find the perfect balance that allows you to survive and at the same time be free. I would say that it is something that borders on magic. I'm not there and I've never met anyone who is.

Anger is the most egoic emotion. means: for me to be you must not be. it is the emotion that makes the human tribal and murderous. For my gene to thrive, yours must die. anger leads to hate, hate to war, war to fear, and thus begins the endless cycle of human unhappiness, producing egos crushed by fear, which produce egos with more layers of fear. until one arrives and says: I break the cycle. I will free myself from fear. and leave the anger behind.

Liberation is when the self dissolves, and it's fucking hard for the self to dissolve itself. the self is very tricky. Liberation is an art, you have to be some kind of genius. there are thousands of traps that strengthen the self. you have to be attentive all the time if you want to have any choice to dissolve yourself

Of course. But a bit of psychosis is normal if you force the limits so much imo. Probably he's going to be ok .It's like if you are a climber and you break a bone.

Exactly. For me this is the last barrier. If you want to open the void, first you have to face the horror of the total absence . The infinite no thing. I have more or less become familiar with it, but that does not mean that I want to have that experience again. Lately I have snorted 5 meo, so things happen slowly, but there is a moment when there is nothing and reality turns towards that. I think it means that if you want to open up to the truth you have to die first and not want to escape from it. The good thing is that I know that this is not the bottom of reality, that way it is more tolerable.

Awakening is really twisted. I'm awake 3 seconds, many times during the day, and i see...shit, nothing is real, there are no others, it's totally obvious , everything is like a...soup, and the meanings are invented. But you can't be there more than a moment because the i is who realize that and starts: how? So, the others are me, but exactly how? And the mind takes the control and it's impossible to do an step back and see because you are inside. It's interesting not to get crazy being all day shifting in that dance. An i that doesn't exist trying to don't exist without success

yes i know that quite well. with 5 meo many times. I disappear and reality is a singularity stuck in eternity, infinite, without escape, from...nothing. death. total horror with no escape. I'd say it's one of the worst experiences possible. for me the solution to that was one time in which I vape 5 meo, that happened, and when I came back from there I thought: it can't be, I am and I'm not that, I put in the pipe I don't know how much, but a lot, and I vape thinking: maybe this will kill me, well, ok. I returned to the horrible singularity, but this time the void opened. it was the same emptiness, the same singularity, only it contained the totality of existence. I was that. I am that! it is unimaginable, no idea can come close, no adjective. So what you have to do is face that horror again and again, until you get used to it

fucking self...full of sadness, revenge, feelings of injustice. it's kind of a dark globe in the middle. it is there, limiting, wanting...something. wants to look at the phone. he wants to meet some girl, he wants something. he's not happy like that. something is missing, many things should have been different. search search search. a ball in the center of the chest. sometimes it disappears, when meditating. diluted. reality ceases to be a dark ball that searches and suddenly it is love. freedom. beauty. like when my mother was alive and not yet an adult who wishes wishes wishes. Like when I had not yet seen that life is a fight and if you don't fight you sink and die. damn self, you make me unhappy but you give me power, you make me free on earth and a prisoner in the mind. fucking beloved self, let's make a deal. to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God. Let's play seriously, to win, but then relax. then you go to sleep.