Breakingthewall

To be free of fear. You can't escape of suffering. when suffering comes, you will not be able to avoid it. If throughout your life you have sought comfort and have escaped from any harshness, the suffering will be very traumatic. If your attitude towards life has been one of courage and not skimping on harshness, you will face it naturally

just the opposite. The most practical thing is to look for suffering, pain, danger and difficulty, exposing yourself to life, in order to lose fear and be free.

Sure, the same any mammal, in case of need fight. but men go one step further. They seek war. the gene wants to spread and prevent other genes from spreading. any prehistoric clan is at war with any clan that is not their own. young men are warriors by default. when human organizations become more complex, this trend remains intact, only to organize armies, conquer etc. Since man existed until the Second World War, the most noble occupation is war. is an absolute constant in human behavior. Without the fabric of civilization forged over thousands of years supporting us, we'd be back to that very quickly. an interesting fact: historically there have been men focused on the divine, the priests, monks, etc. these were men of peace. they have usually imposed celibacy on themselves, renouncing their masculinity. there have also been women warriors, Vikings, Dahomey, etc. they have also imposed absolute celibacy on themselves, renouncing their femininity. men, for peace, renounce their masculinity. women renunce their femininity for war.

the intellect is important because it is necessary to understand the barriers that limit you. the intellect is part of the dream, so obviously it cannot dissolve the dream, but the deep understanding of what the ego is makes liberation possible. a solid intellect creates the necessary framework for the awakening to occur and not be perceived as something terrifying

It's not the humanity, are the men. The women have not that fixation. When you are a child, happy and pure, what attracts you the most is playing war, war computer games, weapons. in any community, even a prehistoric clan, men are warriors. You say if you were at peace with yourself you wouldn't want war, but almost no young man is at peace with himself. it's human nature

Do you think that all the Sioux and those people were very traumatized? And those of the African tribes? and all the Persians, the Romans, the Japanese, the Chinese, the Jivaros of the Amazon, the Vikings, any human group... they all loved war, except the Eskimos. there the thing was so fucked up that there was no place for those games. nothing is so passionate about man as massacre, destruction, risk. man has always sought to fulfill his destiny on the battlefield. Do you think you can force thousands of people to spend hours hacking each other to death? they do it out of passion. look at the history of the 20th century. The game changed when nukes were invented. war is no longer viable. If it were, we'd be at war. War is in our genes. many male mammalian species use head butting and such for genetic enhancement. the strongest reproduces. Human is a hive being, headbutts are collective. War has always been something mystical for men. If not, who would do that shit?

there is no difference between matter and consciousness. they are distinctions we make because we are unaware of the unreality of reality. It's all a mental construct. genes, broken bones, meditation. There's no difference. If, as you say, you want to break that limitation with all your willpower, and your genetics prevent you from doing so, you will resort to psychedelics. to realize that psychedelics are also a mental construction, just like genes, and your willpower Btw, you tell interesting histories, thanks for sharing

You don't even explain anything, and you immediately come out disqualifying. Dick contest???. If you understand something you can develop it, if you don't really understand it, you go off on a tangent, like Leo does when you ask him about solipsism. wake up you stupid piece of trash fagot!? Anyway, thanks for the conversation

science tries to understand the finite, it has nothing to do with the infinite. science is within the finite, it is a creation within this experience that takes shape in the infinite. it is appearance. The absolute infinity can't be touched by science because science is a creation of the absolute infinity

what you are saying is that someone, through meditation, induces himself into a state like propofol anesthesia. perfectly possible, why not? but does this mean anything? the experience that occurs is, shall we say, imagined. Within that experience is propofol anesthesia, deep sleep, and also cessation of meditation, which are basically just a time jump. what does this mean? Nothing. an achievement achieved with practice, like doing a double somersault. It is inside the dream, inside the apparently finite.

That is the cessation of the ego. Of course that this is real. But this is not the cessation that the op or bipolargrowth are talking about. They are talking about the cessation of the conciousness. This is impossible, if it were the case, it's just non existence.

The reality is the absolute infinity, and nothing else could be.

Man, don't be a clown, please. We are talking in a forum about the cessation. Obviously the only approach is intellectual . Cessation is a word. What that word means? I think it doesn't mean nothing, just an invention of people who meditate a lot to make themselves interesting and special. never lose sight of this fact: in spirituality there are many pretentious idiots trying to compensate for a wounded ego.

@roopepa you Re talking about the ego cessation , that of course is real. The op is talking about the cessation of the conciousness, that is a strange concept. If it's the case, is the non existence. The non existence doesn't exist, because otherwise it were existence, etc...so , what is the cessation? @BipolarGrowth talk about it but he doesn't explain what is it.

@roopepa that's not the cessation they're talking about here imo

the true masculine is castrated, since what the true masculine loves most is war, destruction and death. the feminine is realized by giving life, the masculine by killing. That's demanded by the gods, aka, the genes.

So? That's nothing, just an idea. existence is conciousness, if there is no consciousness there is no existence, therefore cessation does not exist What do you mean? Ok that "of" but awareness is the case, so define cessation

they really say that they are god, only few understand it. They say that God is infinite. If something is infinite, there is nothing outside of it, therefore, you are part of God. if you are part of the infinite, you are the complete infinite, since in the infinite the part equals the whole. When Jesus says that the kingdom of heaven is within each one, he is clearly manifesting it. all Christian mystics understood this. don't expect someone who has adopted religion as dogma to understand this, or anything else. This type of people is not oriented towards understanding but towards other things, and it does not have to be otherwise. some of them are integrous and have quite intuitive understanding

What do you exactly mean with that? Could you describe?

incomprehensible. if it were the total cessation of consciousness, you would not be aware of it. It would be like an anesthesia with propofol, a time jump. I have experienced absolute emptiness with psychedelics, without me, without sensory information, without god, nothing. empty. but i was aware of it, since otherwise, i would not be describing it. So what are these people talking about?

Good description. but the point here is that leo says that the deeper he has gone, the more love, the more selflessness, the more beauty, the more happiness. Instead it looks like he has aged 10 years in the trenches of World War I watching murder and evil. The younger Leo was much more authentic. imo the younger leo had a total awakening and he looked happy, bright. This awakening should have served him to be able to guide others to that same realization, and thus have a selfless, happy and love-filled life. instead, his path was to "go deeper." deeper into infinity, where more and less are the same. until he became an alien rat and stuff. denying your own human nature, becoming a strange guy that nobody understands, always dissatisfied. One detail: He recently had a scare from too many psychedelics. a serious imbalance. what has he done? take a break from drugs? maybe 3 months without taking? not! switch to thc. verdict: junkie But anyway, he's an extremely brilliant person, a pioneer. Anything he does is very interesting for us. We can learn from his mistakes. And of course, probably the genius could reverse the situation and take advantage of it. Lets see

Yes , survival, but not the survival of the individual but of the collective, of the tribe. the human individual is nothing, just a cog in a machine, the same as an ant or a bee. language is the means and the collective ego the result. If you remove the collective ego from the human, that is, all the software that has been downloaded through language, what remains? an empty shell with inarticulate impulses, incapable of even the most basic That's we are trying, free ourselves of the collective ego, but keeping his functionality to use it at will. So we could be a totally free being. Free of the instinct, because our genetic instinct is basic and weak, and free of the collective ego. so what's left? The naked reality. Pure Existence

Of course, the leonism, the new religion in which believers say they are god and only they exist

You only say that because you've seen Leo's video on solipsism. all that is nothing more than ideas, mental masturbation.

I had that feeling for long time. In fact, I thought it would be impossible for me to stop having hateful feelings towards part of my family, but the fact is that I no longer have them and I have reached an equanimity that I thought would be impossible. this has come through the understanding of what this experience is. and my understanding is far from complete right now, but it was in a moment. You just have to surrender your ego. Sure you already know that. I remember few weeks ago that I had a complete liberation, become infinite, with 5meo. The next day I had a dream, I dreamed that my life was lacking in love. deficient, petty, miserable human love. I went back to sleep and in another dream I became infinite exactly the same as with 5meo, and this reality: all love, without reservations, was available to me. I was that. the glass was full, to the brim. These realizations never leave you. The next 5 days i had total reactivations, and 2 days later, i broke my leg....and now im in bed with 8 screws in my bone , with a really difficult business stopped, waiting....but i ve zero anger. I still understand beyond words what this experience is. Let's see in the future