Breakingthewall

Well ok, I see. I understand your emotional attitude, and that you encourage your team no matter what happens, since you have chosen sides, but I think it is better to try to really understand what is happening. This conversation is sterile and makes no sense.

No, you are wrong, if I see an evidence, I would believe it, But I have read the report of the journalists who saw the images and they say nothing about torture or murder of children. One question: do you think that absolutely everything the Israelis say in this war is true? Or do you consider the possibility that someone, on some occasion, will lie?

Seems impossible, but who knows, those things happen. We will see when calm arrives, a lot of investigation is going to be done

That guy says that 80% of the bodies have signs of torture, but no video shows torture. Why? The guy says there were ten burned bodies of children with their hands tied. but no photos were taken. I'm sorry if it offends anyone that I don't blindly believe what some guy says. Maybe the tortures happened, but evidence is needed. By the way, before some retarded threatens to hit me, I just want to know if there really was torture or not, I'm very sorry for not believing what a guy on the street says, evidence is needed, as there are thousands of hours of recording It will be very easy to get them, but what has been shown to journalists is without torture or murder of children. I respect a lot of some of you want to believe something and don't want to listen anything that contradicts the version that you want to be happy, it is your life and if that is useful for you, great. There are many people like you, but I prefer to try to find out the truth as precisely as possible and then form an opinion. You could believe that if you prefer

Sure, In an ambulance in a hospital there were terrorists. How do they know? If they couldn't see two thousand guys breaking the fence, how can they know who is in the ambulance? Don't you think maybe they invented? Seems quite criminals. I'd say that they are punishment bombings, to bury people alive in their buildings, without any risk to the attacker.

I meant to steal land in west bank. Israel is expelling its inhabitants, who have lived there for generations, from that area. It doesn't do it because they are bloodthirsty but because they wants those lands.

How does stealing land from Palestinians increase security?

😂 You are funny. No, I mean that the self that thinks: I'm god, I'm infinite, I'm dreaming, is just a construction, and it's understanding means nothing. If you were able to get out of the limited mind at least 10 seconds, you would see what I mean.

Btw, if I were you I'd try to be less ridiculous.

That's because you don't look your fear in the face, otherwise you would know that right now you are full of fear, of control, of self-contraction. Your entire mental stream is basically fear. yours and everyone's. Anything what's going to happen is going to happen, so why to fear it? Just relax and abandon yourself, you are now in the infinity, your fear is not control anything, so trust in reality and relax. That's what works for me. do it consciously and really, feel yourself deeply, and surrender yourself to the limitless now. You don't have control of anything, so you let yourself fall, you surrender your need to understand, to control, to hold on to a mental handhold. It is something quite difficult , some psychedelic helps, even weed, 5meo or LSD, but just sometimes. I try constantly with or without psychedelic as deeply as possible, only that really makes sense, it is the great mystery of existence, and right now it is. you have to merge with it, penetrate into living reality. If you manage to do, it's the glory, all you problems will finish, you will laugh 10 min of pure happiness. You will realize that all your life you was lost, just until now

Yes many times, it doesn't mean that you are not afraid of suffering or dying of hunger, is that at a given moment, right now, you are not afraid of anything, you are able to look your fear in the face and let it go. is to look at reality directly, without the filter of the self

You have to, for a moment, really, without the slightest reservation, say: I'm not afraid of anything, I leave all the control. Then the reality opens. But of course, after reality closes again, because soon you start to fear again, to need to control the reality.

I have realized that what the conceptual mind knows about reality means nothing. I know what omniscience is, I said it in the comment above. I have experienced it many times. omniscience is when you break your human limitation, and it has no content. It is being without form, everything is there and you cannot capture it or remember it, it is at another frequency, it's just now, you can't remember it because the remember is limited and the reality is unlimited

The one who knows things doesn't knows nothing, because it's a creation, he can't grasp the entire thing because he's inside it. I can open myself to the now , then I know everything: no limits. Being without barriers. That's everything, nothing else means nothing.

Fear is the inherent fear of being a human, it is what keeps you now in a mental capsule, grasping everything with your mind creating an illusion of security and control. Now you are floating in infinity, and you know nothing, there is nothing to hold on to. This, now, is eternity. You can open yourself to it right now, it is the total glory of existence, the unfathomable depth. You just have to let your mind fall into nothingness. It is not stopping thinking, it is letting down the one who wants to stop thinking.

Fear

I see those 2 babies burned, but I think that they could be put there when they were burned in a house bombed and then do the picture. I need more evidence, because I Know there are a lot of lies if this matters. You should be skeptical too. If there was torture and murder of children, they should show video, because there are thousands of hours of video. The woman with bounded hands could die in figth with Israel, if they tie a woman is to capture as hostage. Maybe was torture, but maybe not. I don't say it's sure that wasn't torture, just that for now its not enough evidence

I think that anyone who thinks how reality works is like a chimpanzee jumping on a computer while screaming and thinks he understand it.

Sure, but probably if you were in a city being bombed now you would think differently about boredom, but yes , I understand your perspective. Sometimes I think that to live a full apocalypse would be great We are trying to see the truth as close it's possible, to make an accurate map. Some argument are ok to help us to get closer to the truth. Seeing the attitudes of people are part of the truth

liberation is the key to spiritual work. We must completely free ourselves from the energetic barriers that trap us. To do this you have to be able to see them, and once seen, want to break them. Open yourself to the now completely, without reservation. then you expand to infinity. this is a reality, not a mental story. You, now, expand to infinity. There is nothing like it, any mental understanding is a joke, this is the real thing.

Man. I want to know if they torture and kill babies intentionally, and I don't see evidence of that because there aren't. If you are very emotional, good for you, but I want to see the truth, not feed emotions Again, all the terrorists had camera, if there were torture, there are documented. If they didn't show to the journalists, there weren't tortures, regardless your emotions I think the terrorists of Hamas deserve to die for doing that, but don't forget that a lot of babies are dying in Gaza, for example, one hour ago a hospital has been bombed

Many Israeli civilians died while being taken hostage in the fight with the Israel army, could be the case, maybe was intentional but it's not sure, and it's only one case I see the body of one baby. I know they have killed many people. The photos shown are so that we can see their evil, and their evil is great, but there was no massacre of children because we would have seen the massacre of children, in each kibbutz there are many, and showing a crib with blood is not enough, and there was no torture because would have shown. There was murder, something terrible, but there was no torture or intentional murder of children and it has been said that there was this and my opinion is that there was not that

Man, I Know Hamas killed many, there are terrorist and they deserve to die, but Israeli government said that hamas tortured the civilians and killed babies intentionally, maybe they did, but I don't see evidence

I see, murders, I know that they shot to many. But I'm trying to know if there were torture.

yes, photos of a burned baby. I don't know if you don't understand. I repeat: a baby burned in a house fire is not the same as intentionally torturing a baby. Now in Gaza there are thousands of burned babies, that's what happens when bombs are dropped. But if I go, I grab a baby, I pour gasoline on it, I burn it, it's different, the same as that story about how a girl's hands were cut off. Do you understand that it is in Israel's interest to make people believe that these things are real? And that being so, do you understand the stupidity of showing the American representative some photos of a burned baby? it does not make any sense. It may have been burned in a fire. Governments lie, did you know this? So, you should not believe everything they say in order to give more strength to what you would like to believe, you should investigate and try to see the truth. I think there weren't tortures , but if in any moment I see evidence that they happened, I will change my opinion What does that have to do with trying to know if there was torture or not?