Breakingthewall

There is an absolute truth that is difficult to see: the infinite is perfect, complete and total, and therefore all its manifestations, all forms, are perfect, complete and total, they are the absolute truth. The thought "the earth is flat" is the absolute truth, not in terms of its content, which is completely irrelevant, but in the fact of the existence of that thought, its fit into the totality of the cosmos, the millions of neural interconnections that In turn, they are a consequence of an unimaginable quantum process of total perfection that causes that thought to be formulated at the exact and precise moment so that infinity is perfectly coordinated. The perfection of this does not fit into the human mind. Reality is perfect, since imperfection is absolutely impossible.

That is in the realm of the mental. Well, you have transcended the attachment to the mind, step 1. This is nothing more than the beginning, what you are is a cosmic evolutionary energetic pattern, an idea of the infinite with enormous possibilities of perception. obviously no conceptual perception. The dimension of existence that you are can open to deeper levels.

Yes but a openness is needed. I ve not that openness right now, there is some contraction. Let's say that right now my psyche closes. It's not that I'm thinking I'm a human blah blah, it's something energetic. I know because I have experienced complete opening several times, and partial opening more and more often, but don't be too quick to think: I have it. No, it is more than that, it is a total energetic change that requires a complete restructuring of the psyche. Maybe in 1000 hours of meditation I will get it totally, could be, but not sure

Let's see, Let's say you're right and you exist and I don't, I'm just a figment of your imagination. You would agree that in the infinite movement of the cosmos, at a given moment it will happen that you will be me and I will be imagining you, right? So, what difference does it make if I am real now or in x time, if time is a relative creation? If reality is infinite, its manifestations are infinite, so the person you are imagining will at some point exist, and since "some moment" is always now, the conclusion is obvious: there are infinite dimensions of reality superimposed, and you cannot understand it because infinity is not understandable

then, once you perceive your unlimited nature, which perceives itself as perfect and complete, a process of transformation begins in the psyche in which the form, the relative, is seen as an expression of the absolute, therefore absolute, complete and perfect. The dimension: a methamphetamine addict who rapes his grandmother is perceived as perfect and complete, the same as the dimension of the planet Uranus, or a rat, and the understanding of the cosmos and manifest reality begins to be deeper. until where? nobody knows

Agree, but the fact is that pain creates the self because it is designed to create the urgency to do something, and thus survive. If you are, let's say, enlightened, that is, you perceive total reality through form, and you are slowly roasted on a grill or tortured by a professional torturer, in my opinion you will stop being enlightened during that time. That is, the perception will be totally focused on the form, and that form will be extreme pain. If you bury Sadhguru or Ralston in an anthill of carnivorous ants for a few hours, I would say that their enlightenment would disappear completely. Of course, some people could train themselves to support extreme pain. Muhammad Ali endured beatings of maximum intensity smiling, a medieval warrior fought until he bled to death from multiple wounds and broken bones that would have made Ali faint, and the guy who set himself on fire at the US embassy in Vietnam without lifting a finger surpassed them both.

It is something totally simple, it is realizing what you are. What you are is not definable, since it is the reality, and reality is the absence of limits. It is not realizing the fact that you are infinite, but what infinite is, what it has always been and will always be. The infinite, as is obvious, takes infinite forms, it cannot not do so, since if it did not, it would be finite. What we are right now is one of those forms, so enlightenment is realizing what you are by going through the form, which is a relative, cyclical appearance of the infinite. Enlightenment is that the infinite perceives itself through the form, and with this it stops being a prisoner of the form and frees itself. The infinite is conscious and total, although impersonal, since it does not have a center of perception, so it is difficult to let go of the self, the center, so that the infinite perceives itself without any obstacle. If there is any obstacle, perception will be distorted and deceptive, infinity will be perceived as form, god, whatever. Infinity is nothing and is the potential of everything, and is perfect, complete and total. The word enlightenment evokes the light that the opening of the structure of form allows you to flood the dimension of existence that you are right now. You can call this light love or whatever

Exactly. btw illusion or no illusion is a human distinction. Why illusion? Just is

So, if you have option 1 the path with hungry tigers, and option 2 the path without tigers, which one do you choose? Even the most mystical mystic would be clear about it, unless he were a suicidal mystic. You always have to make choices, and that is the self. To say that you have transcended the self would mean being asked: what do you prefer, a strawberry ice cream or being skinned alive? and answer honestly: I don't care. you want that? it is necessary?

Well, maybe is not so important, but if I'm frozen I'd like a coat to feel comfortable, or if there are hungry tigers on the way to my house, I will go another way, and so on many other things. Where is the difference or the freedom? That you don't mind be eaten by the tigers?

I would say it's pretty obvious that it's possible. And it's possible permanent awakening too. Many have done it, and more and more will do it. It is a gradual process but it requires intention and effort, order, intelligence and seriousness. Once you detach yourself from the mind, you perceive what reality is, or rather, reality perceives itself as what it is. mental structures are perceived as what they are: mental structures that occur in this dimension of existence, which is one among infinite ones, then the attachment to these structures is relativized. They are relatively real. Absolutely only formless reality is real, everything else is relative. Relative does not mean false, it means that it is real in a certain circumstance, not in all. You cannot leave the form that you are but you can perceive your formless substance that is potential of all forms, and be one with it 24/7. then the form, although relatively important, passes into the background. to a relative plane. You don't want your family to be skinned alive and then be eaten by hungry rats, but it's a relative horror, not an absolute one. The only absolute thing is your infinite substance, and if you perceive it clearly and fully, it is total perfection, fullness. So the smart business is to move more to the absolute side and less to the relative, because being attached to the impermanence means suffering by definition . In short: awakening is seeing through the relative and perceive the absolute reality that you are.

Yes sure, the idea of you, but if you break a bone , there is pain right? That's existence. Then, what's the point to remove the illusion of the you? Pain is the same.

Exactly, the door you must destroy is you

Yeah some say that everything is chemical, but maybe the chemistry is consequence of the energetic pattern created by the individual, and changes when the pattern changes

Id say the cause is not the technology and all that, it's that humans are increasingly superficial, disconnected from reality, narcissistic in a particular way, consumers of content, needing to be entertained, empty, without true love. So, their children become depressed, because they do not find the true connection that a human needs, and it does not matter if you optimize their circumstances, they may be perfect, but they are disconnected, they are in hell, and their children, that will be few and few, more deeply in the hell of isolation and absence of love

I would meditate as deeply as possible to reach that moment with the maximum possible awareness. But I would really think: I am not prepared, my perception is too superficial, I need more time to achieve greater openness, to dissolve the barriers. my work is not done, now is not the time, its not going to happen

Yes, you have to connect directly with the source and let yourself be carried away by it. It is pure creation, and it is creating this moment. If you align yourself with it, your energetic vibration changes, becomes fluid.

You have to destroy the gates of heaven and rape God. He will say : you can't get in. And you will answer: I'm getting in.

It could be extremely useful. Many times in one day is a good idea.

Yes, more and more work is being done on human well-being and people are increasingly depressed and anxious. the rate of depressed children increases exponentially. It is an extremely serious matter. A child from the Congo is much happier than from Sweden, by several orders of magnitude. where aim this point? well, at the end of the species, simply. There is only one solution to the dead end that is modern life: enlightenment. real, complete. This is something very difficult, an extreme, radical change. We will see how reality regulates itself, very interesting.

Everyone looks pretty happy from outside, but they really live in avoidance and permanent anxiety. what is called suffering, uninterrupted, permanent. but humans are tough and endure that without a problem. can endure being enslaved and working making the pyramids of Egypt with whips, so living in permanent depression and anxiety is not a problem, there are a lot of tricks to don't realize it.

The difference between a primitive guy and us is that his natural impulses are perfectly aligned with his reality since they have evolved in parallel. At the moment in which the collective ego separates itself from its context and begins to be the one who shapes the context, the human becomes a perpetually maladaptive and therefore unhappy being. lost, without understanding anything, it is a simple support of the collective ego and its imbalance is the cause of movement and evolution. Humans build a psyche and adapt reality to this psyche, they do not flow with reality, they live in a strange farce that is only bearable if you are anesthetized by the constant flow of stimuli that you receive. Then, as the op said, human is a depressed being, even without realizing it. Every human is separated, living in suffering.

For hundreds of thousands of years no generation took any step forward, human reality was static, like that of animals, conditioned by genetics. Look at a bird in a park, they have been doing exactly the same thing for several million years, with hardly any variations. At a given moment, the human freed himself from the chains of the gene and began the evolution of the immaterial entity called the collective ego. The collective ego grows exponentially. It took a Paleolithic tribe 80 thousand years to invent a new type of tool, this invention was recorded in the collective ego. At one point, agriculture and civilization, and everything accelerates, and now the pace is brutal. The evolution of the collective human ego in one year is equivalent to hundreds of millions of years of genetic evolution. Adapting to this is obviously a challenge.

Reality is not relative, it is absolute, and it traces a narrow path that you must follow. If you deviate, it will hit you with the whip of suffering. The problem is that you are deviated as standard.

no, because our life line is absolutely out of that way from the beginning. The problem is that it follows a very narrow arbitrary path in which until very recently the only thing that mattered was deforming the individual to make him a social cog. Finding a way to channel your energy is very difficult, since there is no beaten path for it, your ancestors from hundreds or thousands of generations of civilization shout at you: neurosis. so you have to trace the path for yourself and for those who come. Nobody said human life was easy.