Breakingthewall

thanks for appreciating it. Yes, it is completely possible but first we must understand the dynamics of the mind, how our programming drags us. This understanding is not a mental, verbal, defined understanding, it is the understanding that occurs when you see something, for example a children's puzzle and you understand how the pieces fit together, that is why psychedelics are extremely useful, even a little weed can be a great breakthrough in someone accustomed to introspection and meditation

I understand what do you mean, You think that limits, absence of limits, etc., are mental constructions. Indeed they are, based on direct experience. My direct experience now is completely empty of interpretation, it's just reality happening, so if you want we don't talk about anything, my mind is empty of identification, I don't think I'm God, or absence of limits or anything, I'm stuck in the moment that happens, the nature of existence, of what I am is perceived all time. zero mental drift, flowing moment. Starting from this, mentally I know that it is possible to deepen, expand my perception by completely dissolving what seems to be happening and entering into it's substance deeper than now. This is a fact, an action, so if you make this deep enough, this moment completely loses its dynamic quality, of something that happens or flows, and manifests as absolute depth, the source of reality that is the reality itself without any limitation. The point of doing this is to be one with your true nature on a much deeper level. I know that there is no difference between that and the normal experience, it's exactly the same, what changes is my perception, but it's unavoidable that your perception is in a superficial mode to function, so it's possible a deeper mode

In my direct experience there seem to be limitations since I am a bubble of reality, a defined structure. the absence of limitations is manifested when you break the structure completely for a while, for example with deep meditation or psychedelics, but the structure is real and returns Breaking the structure and opening this moment completely. the first times with high doses of vaped 5meo dmt, then with meditation and lsd, then with meditation and low dose of thc, then only meditation, although it is difficult, the structure is solid and real And? Awareness is inherent to reality, but it is not reality. What is awareness without anything to be aware of? cessation, non-existence. In your direct experience there is always something to be aware of, not necessarily something concrete, it can be the fact of existing, what you are. This is auto aware, it is the substance of reality and it is living intelligence. But even living intelligence is secondary, although inherent, to the absence of limitations, the total depth that is the source of reality and the reality itself. To say that awareness is what you are is a duality between subject and object. awareness is the subject. This subject, even though it is empty, pure, is the self. Still a limited vision. Awareness is absolute, but the infinite intelligence is absolute too. Both arise due the absence of limitations. I told you that it's not mental construction. I know that realization you talk about, that change of perspective perfectly. As I told you, it's a necesary step, it's a big shift, is the end of mental suffering, enlightenment if you want, but it's not the end of the opening to what reality is

Yes seems that, because you are the perspective. That means that it's only this perspective? I don't think so, because I can observe and see others, perceive them deeply and see that they are infinite, as me. Maybe I'm wrong, but seems quite obvious that no. Anyway, spiritual thing is open to myself, not to know what the others are, or anything else

Yes but this now has many perspectives. Where are them?

You can perceive the substance of all that, and realize what it is. You can perceive deeper and see the flow of intelligence and life that the color red is, then you could go deeper and perceive the absolute glory that emerges from this red and this moment, and you perceive that it have to be veiled in part because it could kill you.

@m0hsen For example, I was meditating now and I manage to have a completely empty mind, there is only a breathing that sounds and the sensation of being, then there begin to be like waves, and it is seen that what I am is life, I am alive, I am that exist. That existence is what permeates everything that appears, everything is within my mind, but my mind is alive, it is what exists, what emerges from the absence of limits. Everything that appears in my mind is also alive, its substance is unlimited, within this moment is all existence, which develops infinitely, but my perception is limited to a bubble. I am not the perceiver, I am the flowing substance that is self perceived but being a bubble there is the sensation of a perceiver of the bubble. This perceiver is the self, even it's empty, is still the self. The self must fall to infinity manifest itself. This doesn't happen today, it's like everything dissapear, the sensation of being a awareness, a perceiver where experience happens, then the reality is an abyss and I am that, just absence of limitations, no perceiver and perception, it's completely open. Then the abyss manifest itself as the flow of existence, the energy is huge, overwhelming, but you open to it. That is everything, you have everything, no more can be understood. But then you are back and you can dive more and more in what this moment is Where is the mistake? Because maybe it is, maybe if I go to a zen master, he would tell me: no, that's is because you ...I don't know. But even he tell me that I would think that he doesn't know what he's talking about 😅. That's the thing with those realizations, you can't trust anyone , maybe everyone is wrong, in the history of mankind. It's a possibility.

For me it is very similar. It is a tool that shows my impurity, in an absolutely clear way, then you can go through it and open yourself or stay in it and suffer, quite intense, on a mental and physical level. For me it is completely different than 5meo dmt. This disintegrates you and breaks all structures, it opens you to infinity. malt opens your psyche and shows you a mirror. It's incredibly powerful, but be careful, it can be tough. I have tried malt and in the middle of the trip, dmt to open. interesting, but it removes the psyche component that is very useful

I'm absence of limitations, just that, and in that awareness happen. Reality is absolute depth. Your realization is that reality is where the experience happens, the absolute conciousness. This is not the reality, this is the, let's say, usual top of meditative realizations. For me this is a limited vision that seems absolute. I told you in the previous post that you ridiculed like mumbo jumbo , this: I'm talking about the same, but I don't see that my true nature is awareness, I see that awareness is something that happens inherently to existence. Our true nature is just absence of limits, but this implies flow of alive intelligence. You can be open to yourself in different degrees. It's not a matter of a change of perspective. Change of perspective is a necesary step, then you locate yourself as existence not as a psyche, but it's still limited. It's absolute as quality, perspective, but limited as depth. You could say that this is enlightenment, but enlightenment is limited , the doors of perception can be opened, or closed, having the absolute perspective You disagree? Perfect, just explain . But don't think that what I'm saying are mental deduction. It's mental because I'm structuring to talk, but are as you said, actions. The action of total openenss, where the unlimited manifest itself.

There are no beliefs in what I said, just direct vision. I understand perfectly your true realization and that of the light of the Awareness that you call enlightenment, I explained in my post, maybe if you read you could understand. You are a closed minded , but anyway, it's your life. Good luck

If you feel better putting yourself in a superior place without trying to understand, you show me without a doubt what you are, a closed mind believer. It's quite obvious in your rigid expression, lifeless, learned. No hope for you. You are one of those who have "arrived"

As a human you learn to perceive in a linear way because it is necessary. You perceive yourself as a timeline with a route and a projection, and you see everything this way, this allows you to do things like cities, planes, literature, etc. The problem is that being trapped there is unreal and generates anxious energy. The solution is to understand what this type of perception is, its usefulness, and be able to deactivate it. The key is to be able to deactivate the meaning at will, then the timeline disappears, since its substance is the meaning. Once you know how to do it, you do it in seconds, but it can take years or a lifetime to learn how to do it. When you deactivate meaning, you sink into the present, perception changes from linear to profound. It is preferable to live most of the time in this mode, since it is the real one. the other is also real in its own way but you get lost in the meaning which creates constant and compulsive threads of thought. The deep mode is the beginning of open perception, the openness to the life that we are, total plenitude. All of us who are here are looking for this, and it is not that difficult but it requires understanding and not falling into traps.

I didn't call him narcissist! Opposite, I think he made a good point

I didn't mean you, I meant that the op have so big need to be enlightened that he can't do a single step towards the real thing

In other words, narcissism is a dead end road

@m0hsen In other words, you are not the place where reality occurs, you are the reality. the source and the flow are equivalent, there is no one without the other. To realize that you are the immutable "place" is to be separated from your substance. I'd say that this is Buddhism, and that's why they say that reality is an illusion, an hologram, because they don't realize the absolute fullness. It's absolute, because it can't not be, exactly absolute as the empty conciousness, there are two faces of one reality .

I'm talking about the same, but I don't see that my true nature is awareness, I see that awareness is something that happens inherently to existence. Our true nature is just absence of limits, but this implies flow of alive intelligence. You can be open to yourself in different degrees. It's not a matter of a change of perspective. Change of perspective is a necesary step, then you locate yourself as existence not as a psyche, but it's still limited. It's absolute as quality, perspective, but limited as depth. You could say that this is enlightenment, but enlightenment is limited , the doors of perception can be opened, or closed, having the absolute perspective

I just say my experience, maybe everything that I say is wrong, but I dedicate a lot of time to the openess. Let's see, what I mean by openess is that what we are is reality, and our perception is limited, it is closed. Let's say that we are a certain pattern of reality that translates into an experience with certain characteristics. If we were a dog it would be other characteristics. Since this particular configuration creates, by contrast with its peers, language, learning, etc., a self that is aware of itself, that attributes certain characteristics to itself, this self at a given moment wants to penetrate reality and unlock it. One fundamental thing that the self sees is that what it blocks is the self itself, so it sets the goal of dissolving itself to stop blocking, eliminate all identifications and finally give up control. This allows reality to stop perceiving itself as limited, as something concrete. it becomes fluid, without limits. This does not mean that you understand anything or know anything, since understanding or knowing is a matter of the self, but it allows existence to perceive itself as a living flow, inexhaustible creative intelligence by definition because it has no limits. where does this lead? I don't know but the deeper it is, the more life and the more beauty is perceived. In moments of total depth you realize what you are, an abyss in which existence arise, and the abyss and the arising are one. It's impossible the absence of limits without existence, are the same. Others will say: your perception is false, you are the immutable witness and everything else is illusion. but for me that differentiates between witness and illusion. and they go further and say: you have created the illusion to experience love. I don't see this even remotely like that, I see that the abyss exists because it is literally infinite, and at the same moment in which it exists, that is, always, everything that can exist exists. It is multiple because there are infinite bubbles or perspectives, and one because it is a synchronic whole, which being infinite implies absolute perfection, but these are visions, deductions. It is better to forget them and have a single objective: opening to total infinity. When you open yourself to total infinity, even 2 seconds, one thing is obvious: this is all there is to know or see, the substance of reality, the rest is irrelevant. Reality, what we are, is at the same time the total infinity, the unfathomable abyss, and a concrete bubble of perception, and all concrete bubbles of perception. understandable? I would say no

I don't know that for sure, it's just my perception. As I said, the objective for me is the opening to unlimited reality, then perceptions and deductions occur, but all this enters the realm of speculation. It is best not to believe anything anyone says, and even not to believe what you deduce yourself. It is irrelevant, what is important is the openness. This is not knowing or understanding, but being in total depth. but this being inevitably creates a vision of how reality is organized, for me the important thing is that this vision, if it is inevitable to have it, is not an obstacle to what is real, which is openness. For me the vision: I am God imagining reality, blocks, closes.

Because this is a limited realization. For me it is not difficult to silence the mind, without identification or meaning, silence. then you see yourself as the unchanging consciousness that witnesses. well, but this is not true opening, reality is not that, this is still limited and dual. Reality is the absence of limits and this is the source from which reality flows. What you are is the source, and this source is the absence of limits, it is, so to speak, infinite living intelligence. There is no witness, the witness is created when existence arises, there is no creator, everything exists spontaneously, there is flow in forms, movement of intelligence. The perception of this is the opening that is sought, empty meditative states are necessary but limited, reality is more

Yes, it's interesting and possible, since there are mental formulas that can cause opening in a given moment. But how do you give the answer to the Zen master when he asks you the sound of clapping with one hand? I can only think of one logical answer, applause is with two hands, therefore, what is the sound of something that does not exist?

Not. Complexity, depth . I understand that idea of enlightenment, Ralston, spira, etc. Identify yourself with existence, not with the psyche. That is the first step, after this comes mysticism, the non-conceptual understanding of what existence is, which is produced by opening to it. but it seems that for most people it is very important to think that they have arrived

If you are the seeing eye, what do you see? Your dream that you create? This is not complete, is still duality, and a mistake. The eye appears when the object appears, because eye and object are one, so enlightenment is much more than understand that you are the existence itself, it's open yourself to what existence is. And it's not a dream that "you" create to experience love, there is no cause to the existence, the only cause is the absence of limitations, that is nothing

The answer is that a rabbit's mind is empty of thought but full of fear, but that doesn't matter to James, he will constantly look for the formula to appear the most enlightened, it seems that that is very important to him. Yes , according to you enlightenment is a mind empty of thoughts, that's why I asked you that about the rabbit, but ok, all is clear

sure sure, and a lot of love and all that. This is already clear, but I was asking you if you believe that a rabbit's mind is silent. Your answer is the one that Leo used to give as an evasive one: you are imagining the rabbit. good! But what's the point of that kind of dynamic? be the most awake? so that?