Breakingthewall

I have read a lot on the subject, videos, interviews with people, even a comic by a guy who was in Palestine interviewing Palestinians, and who is pro-Palestinian. What emerges is that the Palestinians, men, women, the elderly and even children, are completely aware that they must fight against Israel since they have been the object of a terrible injustice and martyrdom is preferable to living with it. His vision is backward, not forward, always thinking about the grievance that increases as you ruminate on it. Anyone who says that we must change our vision will be branded a traitor and an atheist. Their god and their prophet are being offended by the damned Jews who stain their land and anyone who does not choose martyrdom in the face of this horrible affront is an atheist who deserves hell. If I were the Jews, I would leave that shit of desert to them to live happily in their misery and their religion of oppression, but it seems that for the Jews their sacred land is worth any price, so there is only one way out, which is the one we see, war. Then, if it's war and you kill for example 1500 civilians, then you could kill 150.000, it's the same, the number is just a number, it's the quality of the fact what matters. Bury alive in their buildings 100 families of 100 thousand is the same. If you dare with one you dare with all, so once you start, it's better to finish the work because if you don't you will have to do again. I don't defend the genocide, I just expose a logical fact

I just checked, he claims that he can do things like become invisible or materialize objects, but why there are not proofs? And then he died in a dinner with the Indian embassador in los Angeles due a hart attack and their disciples said that he did mashamadi.

Maybe you are right and if the Jews treat the Palestinians well, in the end they will end up accepting Israel, but It seems difficult, since there is a history of wars behind that has made things the way they are now. It seems that a turning point is needed, and it could be this catastrophe. The Arabs must see Israel's absolute determination to stay, and the Jews must see the absolute need to coexist with the Arabs equally. This or more endless shit can happen

@Ishanga but maybe I'm wrong and some lies are needed if the results are real and good for the humans.

I don't say absolutely no about what he says, but I have very serious doubts about whether everything is being invented to get people's attention. If so, for me he is a liar, there is no middle ground, or total truth, clean and untainted, or liar without any real value

The spirituality, when they say you things like: god is good, god is imagining you, good is love, could be interesting to grasp your attention and make yourself immerse in spirituality, but when you already are in it, all of that is toxic. Any meaning is pure toxicity, you have to forget all of them, until your mind is totally clean, then you can start to perceive

It depends on what you consider strange. He said that he has contacts with aliens, that he knows their past lives, that people who die in accidents enter a hellish realm of existence, that Indian rituals after death can send the soul of a dead person to one place or another depending on the degree of kinship of whoever makes them, that there are temples in India where entering is dangerous for women because of the energies that exist in them, and many other things that deserve doubts for me

@SQAAD Would you agree that reality exists, right? Well, this is what it is, forget about God and why things are the way they are, just delve into what exists. empty your mind completely and merge with reality, be one with it. open yourself to what is and see as deep as you can, there is not another possibility.

They are equal in a sense and different in other. The difference is that hallucinations and dreams are not real without you, that is, they do not have their own existence, they are images that disappear when you stop seeing them, are being imagined by the brain, the avatar, and what is real has existence in itself, they are cycles of the cosmos synchronized with all other cycles, maybe they are imagined, but by the totality. They are the same in the sense that it's substance is the same: the reality If you dream that your hand is cut off, the next day you will have your hand, but if you cut it with a knife you will not. No mystic has ever achieved something like making an amputated hand grow, or flying. The only possible reason is that everything is synchronized at a much higher level than is apparent in this experience and each atom that moves triggers an infinite butterfly effect. We are not dreaming the cosmos but we are part of it, although at the same time, we are the total depth that anything else is, and the cosmos is only an inevitable manifestation in eternal movement, then we are a part, the totality and ultimately the empty depth that is everything

I'm sorry to be skeptical but I read that and alarm bells go off everywhere. mashamadi? First, is that real? Second, was the wife a mystic on the level of Ramakrishna and people like that? who says it? It sounds like marketing, superstition and lies

That is one version and another version says that before the port of Hayfa was built, very few people lived there and that there was a large Arab emigration from Syria and other countries after 1920, so they are as foreign as the Jews, and then the Arabs start one war after another. No one can know, since there were no censuses 100 years ago. Remembering grievances from 100 years ago that were not even like that is living in hatred and you can see the result now.

The question is where the true will to serve ends and where the ego begins. It is very difficult to say, sadhguru seems authentic on the one hand, but on the other hand he treats people like children, he automatically places himself in a position of superiority, which many see justified, since he is an enlightened being, etc., but perhaps it is not so enlightened and has a big ego that is fueled by gratitude and admiration. is this impossible? For believers it is sacrilegious, but seeing how human nature is, it is quite likely. What I know is that he says a lot of strange statements, and seems that he tries to do paliative care for people, not real awakening, because they are kids not capable to reach so high lever, reserved for him

It seems that sadhguru has noble and authentic intentions, but that does not mean that he is not deluded. I would say that he has become deified. He has become a world celebrity, and he is still human. Lately he was saying strange things and with a false touch. Any human is susceptible to corruption, even without realizing it. People thought sadhguru is a demigod on earth, and I see a smart and ambitious guy with a normal level of awakening

@Karmadhi i know that it's not the same case, it's quite obvious, you don't need to describe the differences. What I meant is that when war starts, there is no consideration for damages. Israel coexists with a people who wish for its disappearance. There comes a time when the glass overflows, and it has arrived. If it were not for international public opinion, all Palestinians would be expelled in an extremely violent way. They have promoted a culture of hate, the basis of their thinking is: hatred of the Jew. This is how they educate their children and this is how they think. I'm not saying that they don't have reasons, there are always reasons, real or imaginary, but if your philosophy of life is hatred, you will receive double hatred. I just exposed a fact, not an opinion about who is right

It's paradoxical but the absence of limits has a limitation: it can't not be.

That's true. Lets say that it's quality is absence of limitations

It's like reality has two faces, one is total emptiness, and it is absolute, and the other is the cosmos and its eternal cycles, and it is also absolute, but really, the cosmos is an illusion of emptiness. It is always there, but really what it is is emptiness. What you are in the end is the void, not the form, the forms are like holograms in the void. The attachment to the form is very difficult to let it go, but I think that real awakening is to perceive that all forms are the same, and be open to it

I'm not saying that it's random, but that the difference between random and intentional is in the mind, and the mind is something that is happening within this experience, in this frequency or dimension. so it doesn't mean anything outside of this experience or dimension. Reality is what it is, let's say it is the place where this experience is occurring. If you want real awakening, you have to abandon the mind completely, open yourself to the total emptiness that exists and be it. You cannot bring questions because the questions are in the experience, so if there are questions you are in the experience. The same thing happens with the answers, they are only in experience. they don't mean anything. nothing means anything, just holograms that happen. sad? a little, that's why we return to the meaning again and again, but it is a mistake, total beauty is outside of meaning, it is the total glory of existence, and it means absolutely nothing.

Your worldview is just a worldview, the truth is not a worldview, is out of the world, out of the mind, it's just the reality

Yes, yes, we can talk endlessly about what happened a long time ago and give two completely opposite versions, and never agree, but there is one reality: war. In that it is the same as any other war, it is about defeating the enemy. Those on one side will say that they have countless reasons that make them right, and those on the other side will say the same. You are on one side and your point of view is absolutely obvious, and others see the opposite obvious. I have only said that it is a war, and it is the same as any war, two groups that hate each other over a dispute killing each other. In these cases what happens is that the strongest does what is necessary to deactivate the threat posed by the other Obviously Israel is in a extremely shitty position. If I where Israel I would leave that shit of desert and buy some lands in Africa and do a paradise very far of any Muslim, but it seems that for the Jews is absolutely vital to be there, so they are going to fight until death

Maybe you just imagined that and its a misunderstanding

all qualities are the same quality, the living depth, only they take different forms. If you know the living depth, you see it in all the qualities

I think that the cosmos is real in the sense that the infinite cycles are perfectly coordinated. cycles within cycles to infinity, all structures of enormous complexity completely meshed with each other. something unimaginable that only infinite intelligence can do. but there is no god creating, but intelligence moving, and its movement is this. There is no reason, just existence. The thing is to perceive the intelligence more than the thing. Not the meaning, just the substance

fear, sadness, shame, contraction of experience, experience folded into itself, bound by the mind, is an expression of total intelligence. It is something it does to create the human structure. The human structure is of great complexity, it is a work of art of coordination to function as a group. This requires very powerful layers of conditioned perception that are susceptible to folding back on themselves. In fact, it is the most common. The complexity is big and we get lost in the meaning when we should be focused in the depth

Sure, in everything is the absolute, in every sound or sensation, sight, thought. It's very difficult to see it in fear, desperation, pain, lonely and sadness but it's there too.