Breakingthewall

The psychedelic of cessation is 5meo dmt, at least for me. I don't understand why people talk about realizations of being God, my experience is always the same: the experience ceases, complete reality is a black screen. there is no self, no observer, just a black screen. If this stays here and the self returns, it is extremely disturbing, approaching the horrible. if black screen opens then it happens. Your being opens, and the bottomless manifests itself. If you do this many times, your mind gets used to it and it begins to be something normal, very close to the surface, then with a while of meditation the cessation and opening can occur. It's different than with 5meo, it's more like looking directly into the inherent emptiness of reality, and realizing that the experience is nothing, all forms are apparent, then it stops. There is no time nor is there reality, there is void. Once again it can be quite horrible, until the void opens and what you are manifests, the immutable that always is. It is such a different frequency of existence that it is obvious why it is so difficult to achieve. The mind must be totally empty of everything that defines it, of time, of being "something", of cause and effect, of any identification. It is a subtle art, any grip make a distortion that blurs everything and you are again in the timeline

The tao that can be named is not the true tao, nor can it be thought. The names and thoughts are within the Tao, they cannot contain it. It is unknowable, incomprehensible, because understanding is a toy that occurs within the tao, and so is knowledge. To open yourself to it you must abandon everything, let go of the self and let it fall into emptiness. Any grip, no matter how minimal, closes. the openness must be absolute, then what you are manifests in an obvious way. but you can't grab it, define it, understand it, communicate it, keep it. You can only open yourself to it.

Most serious scientists with deep knowledge of reality accept a mystical approach.

I meant what to do not how to do it. Anyway, if you don't agree it's ok, I just tried to make a contribution

Human life has a great component of suffering due to how it is configured. The life of a bird is not suffering, nor is that of a fish in the ocean, or that of a 6-year-old human child. Happiness and joy are normal. but humans are programmed to enter the social matrix. It is impossible to stay out. Mystical philosophers like Lao Tzu promoted total ignorance of the lower classes of society to preserve human happiness. I suppose they would be wrong, because human happiness usually does not exist. We have memory, foresight and extremely strong emotional ties. All this in an always unequal society, full of desire, envy, hatred, lack, fear of not being adequate, of not fitting in, creates the identity of the ego, which is a big piece of shit for itself of a monstrous size, a source of madness , and of movement. Life is existence, creation and death. direct life, absolutely present, simple, pure. but the structure that the ego creates the image of someone who moves in time and must achieve things. This someone is always dissatisfied, basically because he does not really exist, he is a hyper-complex mental creation, a genius-level work of art to make a human a cog in a collective that has a maximum evolutionary drive. a hungry evolutionary beast, aggressive in its expansion, as life always is. The ego must be tamed, its structures reconfigured, it is a difficult process, the ego has many layers of fear and narcissism. falsehood, deception, self-protection. The ego creates a virtual shell so as not to see life directly. It is constantly creating a barrier made of thought that isolates reality from itself to create thrust, movement. The only way to tame the ego is to habitually open it to the deep void that is deep full that is existence. The ego will understand, it will be detached from the superfluous layers, where the vibration called suffering maintains the amalgamated structure. Little by little the ego becomes more defined, with clearer lines, more transparent to pure existence. In this way it coordinates with the will of existence in a more precise way, then it start flowing. Life start to be pleasure. Existence is open, the sight points to infinity. But always are rests of that substance of the human relationship, the attachment to the others, the self image. They must totally dissapear. They have to be recognized as imprints in the structure of the ego and understand the energy they create, look at them directly and understand them deeply, and thus deactivate them. Self image is the main obstacle, and it varies and can even be god. It has to be nothing, and then it is existence. It merges with the now and is the now. then the mind is open.

Well, The thing is that all humans function at that frequency, not direct as a dog, and there is only one way to get out of it, which is to be able to stop the meaning software at will, and it is not easy to do so, and its more or less the same for all of us

@Evelyna what you are looking for is getting out of the web of meaning and opening yourself to the reality. It is a difficult work since as humans we have many genetic buttons that push us into that spider web, into the social matrix, into the constant activity of mental flow that encapsulates us and isolates us from reality, creating a bubble of imaginary identity and illusion of control. welcome to real work, to the liberation of the mind.

brilliant! Learning to deal with "toxic" people unlocks all the toxicity that you have absorbed in your life, which being a person of high nature as is the case, is always a lot. I say toxic in quotes because more than toxic it is normal. Most people are toxic in the sense that they compete and lie. For them, their self-esteem is always in check. As you have rightly said, the origin of shame is pride, and its cure is humility. That is genuine wisdom that helps you live cleanly and fully.

There is an essential difference: some have a limited vision, others a broader one. Some pursue something that does not bring real satisfaction, that is perishable, that increases the ego, isolates. It is necessary in its right measure, but making it your religion is stupidity, a mistake. The others know that it is not necessary to have anything because they have everything, as long as their basic needs are covered. that existence is broader than what is perceived and that there is an evolutionary path that forces you to ascend or be crushed. Then they move to the openess, the others move to the closure. Some point to heaven, others to hell.

The pleasure of torturing someone is something quite natural, since at the foundations of life is competition, the fight to the death for survival, so the one who tortures feels power. It has been done in all tribal cultures, it is not evil, it is life. It is the same as the feeling of winning a tennis match but exacerbated and without the civilized filter. The masturbation issue is something else. You are horny and you do it, and that's it, but since it has a huge genetically implanted reward component to promote reproduction, it is easy to turn it into the b side of pleasure: the evasive compulsion, the addiction, that leaves you empty, sad and without vital energy . Some substances like cocaine, heroin or nicotine touch this area of reward of the brain But there are more subtle, let say, perverted pleasures. Maybe some son of a bitch 4 years older than you who, when you were 11, enjoyed beating you up? Maybe a rapist, a scammer, a narcissist who surrounds himself with people with no self-esteem? It's always the same, primitive survival impulses implanted in genes. Their genes scream: it won't be me who will be expelled from the tribe to starve, you will. I'm not going will not be enslaved, I'm going to wield the whip. These people are still wallowing in the mire of the primitive, they cannot get out of it, for them enlightenment is impossible, even as an idea. Enlightenment is leaving the genetic struggle behind, being reborn from the animal mud as divine essence. then, the pleasure is another: being, observing the work of existence, giving what you have inside without expecting anything in return.

Reality is infinite because it's nothing. It's something very strange, like a natural phenomena. It's impossible to understand, but you can see it and be it. The absolute zero, the unlimited void, is the source of reality and the reality itself. Then ultimately, yes, reality is unreal in that sense, but is, you are, or i am, that is the same, and anything else is irrelevant

That's normal, you are a human, same than me. Be enlightened is not being human anymore. It's something very rare. We are, let's say, awake to what enlightenment is, but not enlightened, and probably never will in this life, but who knows

It is not as simple as being silent. Silence is necessary, but there are subconscious mechanisms that close, structures of the mind that block perception. The mind is a filter that has that function, among others. It is a machine for the survival and evolution of the species, and it puts this before open perception. The full glory of existence does not reveal itself so easily, it requires a very profound restructuring. If you were enlightened it would be the same for you if your son lives or dies. it is?

No one has proved that never, all of them are liars. Ask Leo, who thought that he could cure himself. Reality is much more complex than a dream, because it's infinite. Imo It's impossible to understand with the mind, but who knows.

My mind can be silent and same time closed. Enlightenment is more. It's the opening to the absolute, it's unthinkable, that's why it's not permanent for me, because my mind isn't in the right frequency. It's something extremely difficult, all our genetics, our evolution, is shouting : close your mind

Then they should can move objects with their mind, like you could do in a lucid dream

I'm not talking about 5meo, but about the total opening of the perception. It happens only with meditation in my experience . Sometimes happened to me just walking in the street, but always it's short, because the energetic pattern that my mind is closes it.

Enlightenment? I have been enlightened for about 5 minutes straight at most. After that my mind closes and goes into normal, limited functioning. If you are truly enlightened, suffering is zero, you are beyond form, you are open to the essence of reality, everything is total glory. There is no difference between good and bad, for you it's ok to have cancer in the brain. Here no one is enlightened. In the world almost nobody is enlightened, more than that, almost no one understands what being enlightened means.

Then , if you are creating everything, why you can't move objects with your mind? Or create anything that you want?

It's obvious that everything that you see don't have real existence by itself? Maybe that's obvious for you. For me it is obvious that reality is infinite, so everything I see is infinite, therefore its depth is infinite, everything contains the totality, therefore it has existence in itself, even a speck of dust is infinite, or a thought or an hallucination . If infinity is the case, nothing is finite, it is impossible, any fraction of infinity is infinite, and therefore is neither understandable nor classifiable. Then I don't try to understand it, I try to open myself to it's substance, and being it you understand everything, but when it's close, you don't understand anymore. Infinity only can be , let's say understood , being infinite, that is, being open

Seems that you can't understand that that differentiation is just a mental label. You are still trying to define the reality with your conceptual mind. Don't you understand that your conceptual mind is inside of the reality?

For example?

I don't think that sex is in the same category. Sex is a natural impulse and it's impossible to avoid. The thing is when sex becomes and addiction, just to evade anxiety. Usually all pleasures/addictions have an evasive function, getting out of your anxious vibration for a while. Real sex, with connection, is not an addiction, it is something with a great mystical component, a high human activity

If the substance of reality is conciousness, conciousness is something, then it's physical, or mental, choose the one that makes you happier

What is the difference between physical and mental? I did psychedelic so many times that I realized that sober or on psychedelic are exactly the same. Tell Leo to move a stone with his mind when he's in god mode and send the video, would be interesting to see it. Yeah, that is what Leo said, but what it means? That you have the mental image of a god that is imagining things? Are you sure that you know what reality is? Or infinite mind? That's just religion My personal perception, which I absolutely doubt and which also does not interest me too much, is that reality arises spontaneously from the absence of limits, and since there are no limits, its intelligence is unlimited, and it is organized unlimitedly in patterns composed of holons self-conscious, creating an interconnected whole, which is at the same time one and multiple, connected and isolated, like the cells of your body, and which emerges in cycles of creation and destruction. What interests me is perceiving the essence, be open to it, not making a mental outline of what it is. the metal/physical difference is just a mental scheme. If you are open to the essence, you realize that everything that arise are just forms, you are the essence, and everything is irrelevant, just movement, a dance. Then you enjoy it, but you don't need to define, to classify it, because it's useless, is just ego mind.