Breakingthewall

Thanks,. that so kind advice from both. At first I took it like condescendence and mocking, crazy right? It's clear that both of you are true and noble. But I already did for many years. spent about 2,5 years meditating for several hours a day and I still meditate every day. I also went on psychedelics hundreds of times. I did 5meo DMT hundreds of times in high doses, specifically contemplating the self. I also dedicated about 10 years to rock climbing, sailing, and gliding in the most extreme conditions, contemplating the nature of fear. I also did a lot of combats in boxing in quite high level contemplating the nature of the dynamic of ego, submission, fear, domination. Was extremely useful. I also started 4 business from zero, 3 with success, contemplating the nature of uncertainty and faith. But anyway, you are very kind, I will do more contemplation following your advices.

Well, sure we are all one from a mystical perspective and all that, but I'm speaking from the normal perspective where you don't want to be hit with a hammer on the head, but you don't mind if they hit the stone with a hammer. The self is an energetic structure as real as stone; it's stable and structured with mathematical precision at the genius level. The thing is, self structures are dynamic; they can change. But if you have a fear of heights, it's not enough to simply let go of the thought of terror; that's a lie. You'll have to practice climbing for five years intensively to retrain your brain. And if what you want is to not react if you see your five-year-old children being tortured, then it's probably impossible. These are the foundations of the self, and you have to see them as they are, so you can align that real self so that it's fluid and transparent, to the extent possible. If the idea: the self is just a thought, it's an irreal illusion created by human imagination, gets installed in you, you will get frustrated trying to silence the self creating a duality, the screen where the thoughts arises, without achieve nothing but a kind of anesthesia that have a price: castration of the alive flow that you are

You can be meditating and the being manifests in its totality, as you say, only the being is real, brilliant, and full. Sat chit Ananda. It's one facet of reality. Then you can perceive the incessant living flow of absolute intelligence and be one with it. This is another facet of reality. And then you can cut off the hand of a guy who put it in your pocket to steal your wallet. This is another facet of reality.

Exactly, appreciate the assessment, which is true, humility aside. It's another thing to disagree or point out errors. Any of us who expound on a topic of metaphysics will do so with exaggerated certainty, since to expound it you must have thought about it a lot and come to a final conclusion. You're not going to expound it by saying: Well, surely what I'm saying is stupid, but maybe the self is real? No, you say it with certainty; that's not arrogance. Nor is it arrogance to refuse to accept unfounded replies. Arrogance is doesn't accept real replies by ego, because admit that you are wrong let's you down. But if you are sure that you are right, not for ego but because you really believe it, you will show it

Anyway, to finishing: it's absolutely, totally obvious, and it's incredible that there is the slightest doubt (sorry for the arrogance but it's obvious), that the self is as real as the body or as a stone. The idea, taken almost as dogma by modern spirituality, that the self is a mental construct, that thoughts create emotions, and that ceasing those thoughts is enough for the emotions to cease, is false. Emotions are the foundation of thoughts (even thoughts feed back emotions), their structural basis, and are determined by neural pathways created over millions of years of evolution. These pathways are dynamic, constantly changing, just like any other reality, but you can't "drop" them, and enlightenment, which has always been the case since it is simply reality, manifests itself, as Ralston says. Simplifying like this traps you, it closes you off. It's a basic error. The consequences are a mind splitted and closed. The opposite than we are looking for

Man, seriously, if you think you weren't trolling and really do you think that you answered properly, one of us is in a parallel reality

Next thread: narcissism and spirituality. With equanimity, humility and kindness

Still waiting for any reference about the topic of the thread. If you don't agree, just explain why.

If I express an idea and you come and counter it with logic, I'll see that my idea wasn't well-formulated, or had some flaw, or was completely wrong. But if you come and say my idea is stupid because such-and-such a teacher says the opposite, or because you simply find it stupid, then your argument won't seem valid to me.

If you read the whole thread, which I don't think you will because it's long and pitifully stupid, you'll see that I've responded dozens of times to hostile and insulting messages with complete equanimity and patience, with thoughtful replies explaining the points as thoroughly and accurately as I can, but there comes a time when frustration wins

Yes, all of them were that my understanding is low, just theory, mimic or real spirituality. But nothing else. When I asked: where is the mistake in what I said? You just say: go to contemplate! Or anything like this. I'm absolutely aware that im totally retarded getting triggered about this situation, but I'm 3 days contemplating this topic obsessively, asking Chatgpt about all the spiritual traditions in relationship of this, wasting hours. It's stupid? Could be or not, it's what I did those days, just a bit of passion about this topic.

Say anything about the topic or about anything, not just insulting and sarcasm. You didn't exposed a single point. Can you do? Talk about the self. Let's see what are your ideas , if you have any

Sure, my reaction is dumb. I can't avoid because I put all that I have in every post (the posts about spirituality, not this argument). I contemplate hours about it. When I said anti human spirituality is the tendency about saying that the self is a thought. I explained in the thread, you could read if you want

I have enough social life, the one that I have. Could be better and worse . I hope yours is wonderful If I expose a point I've been contemplating deeply for hours, and your response is that I write that because I don't have a social life or my life is shit. You have to understand that in some cases there may be a reactive response. It's not optimal, but sometimes it's inevitable. Sure, or maybe I'm retarded or anything, but the fact is that it's true that I feel enlightenment issue like a real vocation. I also did a lot of things. Now for example Im running a business quite risky where my future is in stake every day. Look, I try to talk about a topic. This topic is interesting to me, really interesting. I contemplate it a lot, as deep as I can, then if someone comes with nonsense about personal thing I feel frustrated. I will try don't express that frustration

Ok I understand and it's your right to agree with you want, just that this mod entered in my thread not to talk about the topic but to have an aggressive attitude and insult. The advices he gives, like, "Go contemplate the nature of the self," or whatever, is only meant to sabotage and humiliate. If you ask him what he's referring to specifically, he won't say, since he hasn't read the thread. I try not to get triggered, because that's stupid, and that's his goal when he ntervenes. It's strange, since he never says anything about spirituality, never starts a thread, and never responds except with sarcasm and humiliating jokes. Even so, he's a moderator, so it's important not to offend him, because he can get you banned from the forum. And since I like writing here, not for entertainment but for expression, I'd prefer to continue doing so, if possible, without getting into these kinds of conversations.

I'm doing the work every time and I'm sharing the work here. Why do you assume that I didn't? Which part of what I wrote shows you that? Tell me and maybe I could improve Anyway, forget it, it's fool arguing like that. i got triggered because really I was 2 days thinking about the topic contemplating it from all the angles, then make me frustrated the impossibility of talking about it

Anyway, Just for your information. I meditate for several hours each day, prioritize spirituality as my life's calling, write a lot about this in addition to this forum, and research Buddhism, Advaita Vedanta, shamanic traditions, and commonalities with traditional religions every day. I take psychedelics quite often. My life is a constant contemplation of the nature of myself. If I write a thread here, I review it many times, and I give the utmost of my intelligence, whatever that may be, to it. So, your insulting attitude, ridiculing without even having read what I've written and without saying absolutely nothing about what I've stated except the intention to ridicule, makes me find it shameful that you are a moderator of a spiritual forum.

Entertainment or maybe serious work, depending of the person

You just said that there is only pure consciousness, so love for your girlfriend is an illusion that appears in consciousness, just like a thought.

Then why you post? To appear cool because the mod is insulting me, then you are with him to be cool? This forum is amazing 😂 it's crazy level

Then you also are against that someone question some principles about spirituality? Why? Why nobody in this thread say a single word about the topic? Maybe it's offensive because it's against some beliefs deeply admitted? Look, that guy is insulting me again and again. For me it's not like offensive, but I don't know why you agree. I'm trying to do a high quality thread

Yes but what is Allah, who takes infinite shapes that lives and are perfect? Why he has this power? What are you?

Do you believe that you are a kind of teacher, giving orders so strict and bossy because you are mod? You are the funniest ever 😂😭 Please, respect yourself. And try to say something about the topic, then maybe I admit that I'm wrong

Then in one side is the pure conciousness and in another the mountains, thoughts and that things that arises in it. They should be the same right? The Thoughts also Do you know the idea Brahman?

What means pure conciousness? It's just a word. What describes?