Breakingthewall

The thing in another words is that you realized that the form is just form, with nothing else behind. It's transparent, like an hologram, has not meaning. You were totally attached to the meaning, same than me or anything else. When you perceive the absence of meaning you perceive the absence of everything, but that's the vision of a drug addict that is in the paradise and there is not cocaine, then he perceive that there is nothing. There is no meaning, but there is substance. The substance is the reality, it's real, exist. It's you. You are not a person, are the substance of the reality, the person is form, and you already saw that the form is empty, then only the substance remains. Open yourself to it and that's it. What prevents the realization of the true nature is the form. If the form reveals as empty loose it's strength Why not commit suicide? Because seems that it's a path that we have to follow, it's not just form, it's the flow of the reality

@Asia P This is a very delicate subject, people don't understand the scope of letting go of all their human ties, you do understand it, because you saw the absolute emptiness, the absence of meaning, the total loneliness, you have looked in the face the limitless void that opens before you. People say blah blah but they have never done it, they always grab something. God, anything. But you saw the void, I totally understand it. Then the only possibility is open yourself to the void, dissapear in it and open yourself, not be you anymore. It's extremely difficult, a lot of hindrances. It's here and now, not in another planet or moment, but the mind is running and running, attaching you with fear to make you an structure. Go deep in this work is crazy

That interpretation is real, ok, then we could say that suffering is some energetic frequency, and reality itself an energetic configuration. Really physics say without any doubt that matter is a state of energy, you can transform matter in energy. And what is energy? Is it something? It's the vibration of the material of the reality. And what is the material of the reality? Leo would say: mind. Ok, and what is mind? Not admitted the answer: the same than a dream. Because a dream is something, is a vibration, an energetic configuration, like anything else but in different frequency than a stone for example, but the same matter. Then, what is this matter? This matter is you. There is not another definition or answer. This matter is what arises from the unlimited. The fact of absence of limits , the total vastness make inevitable that you arise. You are, encompassing what is impossible to think, the unlimited. Then you are unlimited, and that fact makes that energy exist and taking form. It's very difficult to perceive yourself naked, without any mental creation around. Don't underestimte how difficult it is because if not you are going to say: I get it, and would be just an idea. Then, what is the difference between real and illusion? There is any? What means: illusion? Means the opposite of real. Then, what's real?

There is not love there, it's absolutely scary and depressive, close to horrible, but it's the barrier between the human and the divine. It's like death, but if you are able to open yourself to it without any reservation, your heart opens and in it there is everything, the source. If you have had that experience it's because for you it's easy to get deep states of detachment of the human, so go for it, search the void and the infinite loneliness as much as you can, in it is what you are looking for , but not being loved, it's being life, be love

Good luck with your deception.

Sure but I don't believe at all that you are there, nor me or anyone here, and almost no one single person in the world

The correct answer being enlightened would be: if I see my son in agony I would see the perfect beauty in it and I would be happy for him because he's burning his karma to arrive to the absolute opening in the next stage. But being honest, would be that?

Your problem is self deception, but I can't solve it, then good luck with it Yeah sure. That's self help, aka self deception. Ask Buddha, life is suffering. Karma, suffering ,engine of evolution.

Sure, then if I crucify your son in front you and you see him in agony for 3 days , you would see it beautiful because the body is not him

Well I saw some people dying in a way that I would call horrible, people have cancer and those shit , not only in tv, it's real, happens every moment sorry to say, but when I read you I only perceive arrogance and self deception

Good, it's the first stage to real opening. You have to face this emptiness again and again until you are more or less comfortable with it. No meaning, no content, absolute void. Be confident in that it's just a stage, after the void the whole opens and you are that.

In fact human life is not beautiful, if you compare human life with any other being, everything is in harmony except humans, seems that human are like a transition stage where reality is given birth to another dimension, and humans are the intermediate stage, and the pain of the birth is the huge human suffering that is the engine of evolution. Most of humans are unconscious of their level of suffering, and they deceive themselves with self help techniques to avoid face directly they darkness, because would be unbearable

Btw, that guy, bassui, was a real genius, we should read a bit about him, his life and his teachings, that seems simple but are very deep Words are absolutely necessary to free the mind, are very powerful.

Very good question. First we should define what is experience, then how are the different types of experience. Is experience without perception? Is time without perception? Is time with basic perception? When perception starts to be complex and is aware of itself? Why it's aware of itself? Who is aware of itself is a creation of the perception, or something else?

Yes, there were infinite other egos.

Maybe if you are 14 years old and are prisoner in a jail in Nigeria and every night 10 guys fuck you by force life could be less nice, or if you are a old woman with an stroke alone in a charity hospital that no one visits, or millions of possibilities. Being human is very often suffering. If real suffering seems beautiful to you, then yes. If you and your whole family are impaled and the 3 days of agony watching them and yourself impaled seem beautiful to you, then everything is ok

Imagine how would be the pirates on real. In the 18th century, the English practiced forced conscription to strengthen their fleet. That is, a patrol would lie in wait on the roads and any guy who passed by would be kidnapped, put on the ship and not be allowed to leave the ship for 10 years being forced to fight in sea war. It didn't matter if the guy had 8 children to feed. This was legal and if the guy tried to escape he was hanged. Some of these guys managed to escape, became pirates, and they didn't love people at all.

95% of the assessments of trump are strategy to confuse, then you never know when something is serious, it's like business man strategy to get benefit, for example that about the 100% of taxes

Thats not a koan, it is a question that a guy named Bassui asked himself compulsively since he was 7 years old. He was an interesting guy, a Japanese Zen monk from the 14th century, quite rebellious and independent, focused on meditation. His approach was to penetrate into himself to understand what he is. His question is not a koan, it is a direct question with an answer that requires a total opening of the mind. First you must reach the non-self, then the absolute emptiness and finally the total opening. My answer is because I know those phases, my rude way of answering you is because of your suggestion to contemplate more and reason less, since it seems disrespectful to me, since I didn't asked the advice and I meditate several hours each day and I contemplate uninterruptedly, if was impolite I'm sorry

It's not what I say, it's what solipsism theory says . But anyway, I'm almost sure that Leo doesn't believe this anymore, was a kinda of mistake imo

Any AI would be always limited, you are unlimited, the difference is absolute

@enchanted forget absolutely any conceptual idea about anything in spirituality, just meditate, observe your mind, understand yourself, open yourself, little by little. Never believe any idea about how or what the reality is. Only get deep in you, inside is what you are looking for, outside there is nothing in this field

Simply observe reality, nature, the cosmos. You are that, it is indisputable. What is sought in spiritual work is to open yourself to the reality of what you are. It is obvious that our mind is closed for reasons of survival, focused in a certain way. Opening it is an enigma, it is something very difficult, but in it is the source, the reality itself. If you intuit this, there is only one path: to reach the end.

That's not the solipsism, solipsism means that the people that you see and talk with are imaginary and haven't real experience, you as god are creating them for any reasons, over all because you as god feel alone in the eternity and bored in heaven, then you invented that video game that consists in being a Japanese office worker with depression infinite times.

Then why are you talking with him? If solipsism is true he is not real , is only a product of your imagination. Discuss with him or with anyone else would be meaningless, even psychotic.