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Depends on what you mean by those. Self awareness or self consciousness (or perhaps personal awareness) is what animals and babies lack. Children and adults have it, but when children or adults (more likely adults) lose it, that’s enlightenment. It’s Infinity’s gift to itself. If by awareness you mean the absolute? Then here’s how I’d explain it: if everyone’s non-objective (non-personal) awareness is what they are at their core (which can be confirmed directly), and there’s no distance between awareness and the objects it’s aware of (if there were distance, that would just be another object, so there’s obviously no distance between the object “distance” and awareness)... then there’s no separation between what appears. And if what appears is all there is, then there is no separation.

You’re right, it’s a personal experience. What is beyond personal experience is being... and beyond being is infinity. It’s timeless everything, with no real perspective, and is everything / is not separate from everything, so it can’t see a difference between anything. If 1. everyone’s awareness is the same awareness (which it obviously is unless by awareness you mean something else), and 2. there’s no distance between awareness and what appears, then... There is no separation between what appears. This even includes the apparent end of the universe and its beginning (timelessly!). But of course an individual can’t see this.

@4201 I hear you. But what I’m pointing to is just “a little to the left” so to speak. All you have to do is give up the notion that what I’m talking about happens in time. You are correct in that this has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.

The Big Bang didn't happen in the past. Also, the Big Crunch won't happen in the future. The Big Bang timelessly appears as the Big Crunch -- the end of every sensation that ever has or will happen. The Big Crunch timelessly appears as the Big Bang -- the beginning of every sensation that ever has or will happen. The beginning of each sensation = its end. The Big Bang = The Big Crunch = everything. There is no separation, not just in terms of there being no one separate from what happens, but in every way -- i.e. whatever you give, you receive, etc. This is both timeless and causeless.

Maybe the smiling you refer to is just a metaphor, but even so, unconditional happiness means you’re happy even when you aren’t smiling. Being unhappy (or, so to speak, “not smiling”) is just another sensation and all is unconditionally welcome. Not to mention: There’s no separation, first of all, so everything is complete and unconditioned... But also, no one can prevent any sensation from happening anyway — it’s an illusion that you can, and if it’s recognized there’s truly nothing you can do, well then there’s obviously nothing you can do, so you’re sensation-proof.

I’m talking about beginnings and endings on a very basic level. Look at this screen. Now look away from the screen. The sensations of looking at the screen ended. Simple as that. And each apparent moment of sensation is a sensation itself, the beginning of each of which, is simultaneous with (and is) its end. Simple anicca. Of course there’s no real beginning and end but that’s precisely because there’s no separation between them. I’m not talking about it on that level. I’m referring to the beginning of EACH / every single apparent individual sensation unit in time. Every individual sensation of the infinite. This is the beginning and end of all of them — though it may not appear that way. It points to a meta perspective that itself can spill over into timeless non-duality. Does that clarify what I meant?

I agree with all that. I was pointing to something entirely different than the story of the Big Bang, which seems to be true in the story, as you seem to indicate. I was pointing out a view which itself points to nonduality. This is timelessly the Big Bang right here and now, but as the unconditioned.

Exactly! ? Apparently.

Surprised Leo didn’t point out the conflation. The consciousness referred to by@mamad above is not the same as the consciousness @Leo Gura referred to above. Respectively, the first refers to consciousness as a function where one can be more or less conscious, and the second refers to the absolute. Utterly not in the same ballpark. But being very highly conscious (of the first sort) is on the edge of being both dead and alive and perceptions seem to fluctuate timelessly in the infinitely full empty void without a perceiver or container. Being infinitely conscious means not being conscious at all, and all that’s left is the absolute (consciousness of the second sort).

But it’s all cleared up after enlightenment, which is actually the end of mystical experiences. It will be obvious that there is no brain or awareness. Awareness is just a function of the brain, but the brain is just like anything else — the timeless appearing as time-bound-happening.

?‍♂️ jk! But, you said “at one point” (presumably, in time). Stuff can appear to happen in time but what the Big Bang really is, is timeless. Of course there will appear to be an apparent beginning — how else would anything appear at all? Imagine if there wasn’t even origination in the story — doesn’t even compute. So of course there will appear to be a real origin if you’re still in the story of time. From the timeless perspective, the Big Bang (everything) is all there is, and it’s the exact same as the Big Crunch (nothing).

The solid concrete wall has no underlying "thing that it is." I wouldn't say that it's nothing outside perception, rather it is nothing and it is a perception. Objects aren't viewed -- they are the view, which is all there is, and not an object. Well there's just no "out there" or "in here" in the first place. Interaction and relationship are appearances but there isn't an outer world to be a part of -- there is just the appearance of the world which is all there is, blindly itself -- timeless/stationary infinity.

@RMQualtrough I don't know about all that, but I will say those questions are all in the story that includes time. What I refer to as the Big Bang being the Big Crunch, or nothing being everything, is utterly timeless; beyond time; meta-to time. This whole thing doesn't actually move -- it's like a solid infinite and timeless block/sphere of empty-alive being. Also sort of like perceptions fluctuating in and as emptiness, timelessly. Nothing is happening, as there's only timeless everything. There's an apparent story of the exploration of this, and the scientists seem to be learning more and more and it's pointing them to the absolute empty fullness. Even in the materialist paradigm, and certainly in the view of most in cosmology and quantum physics, it is believed that there is no "before" the Big Bang since the Big Bang is itself the supposed advent of space and time -- so they can at least somewhat intuit the timelessness of what is, even if they can't yet see that it's totally unconditioned/causeless.

But the covid vaccine doesn't contain mercury...

Contemplation (preferably after meditating your way to deep bright stillness if the mind isn't already sharp and calm) LSD

Yep ? Everyone is at the edge of death timelessly as what is — since consciousness downright refuses to, and cannot, enter it.

Imagine there being nothing — it would have no limit, meaning it could do anything... Yeah, this is the Big Bang right here. But it’s timelessly the Big Crunch as well... and they are effectively the same. Empty fullness. Nothing being everything. With no cause. How could there be a cause if there’s only what is? That cause would just be what is, appearing as a cause. It isn’t any more illogical than anything else, it just has no story to it, so it can’t be confirmed nor denied by the individual. It’s unknowing. If there’s nothing outside of everything, everything is unlimited, meaning it has no limits, meaning it’s well within its (infinite) capabilities to appear as anything, including as a complete universe with a history, but without any need at all, including even the need for that history to have actually taken place. The beginning of every sensation is also its end. That’s the timeless Big Bang being the Big Crunch (which is itself a story). Imagine when the Big Bang happened and when the Big Crunch will happen — it might not be obvious now, but it might suddenly become obvious: they don’t happen when you think they do — they’re all that exists.

Ending the cycle of birth and death simply refers to the end of the experiential center. Nothing really changes. “Me-ing (self-consciousness) & Be-ing (glimpses)” simply collapse into “appearance & appearance,” meaning Me-ing never happens anymore because it never actually did happen — since it was only an appearance, and Me-ing simply refers to the apparent overlooking of the appearance as if it’s actually real (“knowing” it to be real), rather than simply what it is: an appearance; empty-fullness immediately and timelessly already appearing for no one, without inherent purpose or meaning or condition. That’s all. It’s not your “last go” or anything like that. Don’t worry.

Or have you perhaps considered: Enlightenment will simply find (seek) you, no matter what you do, since there is no you ??

Then it wouldn’t be what’s referred to as Consciousness as synonymous with the absolute, by definition. It would merely be “consciousness” as in “the awareness function of body-minds, developed in the story by evolution.” Consciousness of the first sort is perhaps better conceived of simply as “what is.”

There isn’t anything outside-of / separate-from / other-than what is always timelessly already immediately appearing — not something / someone / sometime. This is simply obviously directly apparent. So this is absolutely it (everything). Simply, nobody has ever done anything, nor could anything be done, nor is there anything to be done, nor is there anyone to do it. So its associated seeking energy is truly just simply a fruitless non-starter. This is unconditioned.

A shortcut to “accessing” Infinity is simply to “successfully imagine something impossible.” For example, imagine: the entire universe being one of its own atoms; experiencing multiple undivided consciousnesses at once; expanding and contracting simultaneously; in being out; empty being full; etc.

^^ Yes this exactly. This becomes obvious.

Yes, post-collapse of unfalsifiable belief-identification structure, psychedelics still boost consciousness. Enlightenment is the un-altered state — tangential to states.

Just be assertive and self respecting and make your boundaries known — forcefully if needed, but without judgement.