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Is it possible that I stimulate the girls on the date then she goes home and goes out that night to score or calls her fuck buddy because I horned her up? The girl in question did tell me she went out after our date but is ignoring me again. Like, we clicked perfectly, we kissed and I made her laugh and everything during the date. She told me "I made winter feel like summer". But now she doesn't feel the need to reply to me, let alone chase me. Because she knows she can get me. Earlier this week I had a date with a very cute Russian girl but she got some emotional baggage so I was visibly wary of that and considered her below my standards. She is actually slightly chasing me now. which is nice but still as soon as a girl will figure out that she can have me she will stop all investments and treat me with zero respect when texting.

For example this week I had a date with a very stunning eastern European girl. Also very intelligent and proper. She used to apologize when not responding within just a few hours and even apologized for being two minutes late for our date. The date went great, there was clear attraction, we kissed, and she felt very happy and stimulated. She was also very clearly boasting to win more of my attraction. But then at the trains, I gave her casually the option to come home chill with me but she refused and I didn't push. My train was leaving in that very instant so we quickly kissed and said goodbye. Since then she has been ignoring me.

I date very hot women, so yeah if they don't have psychological issues, in the framework of being chill, honest and masculine I do kinda give away that I want to fuck them. But isn't this also necessary to build tension? Is it really this extreme that when the hot girl understands I want to fuck that she runs away? During the duration of the date she is super attracted but the shit starts afterwards.

Nah, she grabbed my chin, which was a sexy/tantalizing move. Context and vibe matters a lot, I was just dumb.

You're right. Bullying is not the right word here then. A shit test means the girl is interested which is very positive. I had a girl once grab my chin and say to me that I am an obnoxious creep haha. Out of insecurity I took that seriously, only later realizing it was a shit test I failed. But that's something completely different than real bullying. Real bullying is malicious emotional abuse. @ZenSwift Is there a chance you interpret shit-tests and "hard" rejections as bullying due to your trauma?

I would say standing your ground, being audacious and cheeky is a foundational part of cold approach, especially when starting out and you have to unwire the meek nice guy programming. Later it will be so natural to you, you won't even think about it. Also, men are inherently powerful as only they have the ability to confront and fight other men. I am not saying you should fight or do other stupid things. But it is good to cultivate a certain aura where people can feel off you that if they cross you, they are in a world of trouble. I am talking about something subtle and inherently masculine, not about being aggressive or angry. Having some experience with confrontation and standing your ground will certainly grow you here. Good, I am also very short but I never even get shit tests from girls on this fact because I think they can feel that I completely own this aspect of myself. Some of the world's greatest leaders were very short guys. I understand you, that's actually a good reason to not do it. A microdose of LSD for example won't help you during day game because the anxiety will just eat you up. But in a loud obnoxious club it helps a lot because there is a general atmosphere of partying and not giving a fuck. For me, it's like having a superpower but I also understand your concerns. Good! but beware if you have problems "managing bad experiences" day game will be even harder. Even though the reaction of girls will be generally friendlier. Approaching girls during the day is a whole other setting than a loud nightclub where everybody is drunk and does stupid shit. Not saying you should avoid it but a good dose "of not giving a fuck" is required. Especially when starting out.

@Leo Gura What is your greatest source of happiness in life just directly felt reliable day to day? For me, it's the different passions/hobbies I am blessed with, seeing beauty and "poetry" in life and the world around me. And also indulging in music, taste and carnal pleasure.

@NoSelfSelf I am saying it's not a normal phenomenon in cold-approach. So there is something foundationally wrong that needs to be fixed.

Oke but it's still a sign of something fundamentally wrong. A grown man should not get bullied. @ZenSwift When starting out you have to deal with a lot of cringy ass fuck ups before you slowly correct yourself and get better. But being bullied should not be part of it, your priority now should be eliminating this phenomenon. Also night game is the most low-stakes thing ever, everybody does all kinds of dumb and crazy shit and the next day it's all forgotten. You're way too tense and uptight, try taking a microdose of LSD when going out.

Getting bullied? This is not normal. A women will never bully a men that approaches her, from an evolutionary point of view this kind of behavior could get her killed.

@Karmadhi Generally I don't recommend cold approach to people that are extroverted and meet new people naturally all the time. Sure, you can try online game but it is true that only a select percentage of the male population will have success with it and let alone getting genuinely hot girls. Realistically cold approach is a solution for seriously introverted guys. The percentage of young men that can get laid or have girlfriends is shockingly low. If you're introverted and online game doesn't work for you, cold approach is basically your best option then. If I would do social circle game and be social a lot I would be very miserable in life and with cold approach, I don't have to fundamentally change my lifestyle into one that does not authentically fit me.

@hugoalfven Day game is actually relatively low energy so perfect for calm guys (especially if you're cool and mysterious) though you still need to present yourself to the girl, be light and do some talking. Most girls are definitely not into macho over masculine guys, he only attracts a specific type of woman. I think everybody has a certain type of the opposite sex he or she consistently attracts.

I would say don't be afraid to "slightly inconvenience", if you're making women feel uncomfortable you're doing something fundamentally wrong. Always be in tune with her state/general vibe and be graciously polite. The foundation of day game is, don't be a creep. This means: Don't startle her, be aware, be in intune, have decent clothes, no robotic lines, no aggressiveness/anger in your energy, don't be a needy hobo, no (excessive) pushing. Don't spam approach, don't approach girls that are clearly not your type and you don't find genuinely attractive, be subtle, Don't walk around as some kind of "hunter" of hot girls, and don't draw (excessive) attention. In this framework, you can be an audacious wolf and not the town's crazy person. And when the girl is into you she will still love being stared at with your creepy unblinking crazy eyes and sly smile(;

@Chives99 If it was easy everybody would be doing it. You can only make it easy by massive experience. If a woman is not impressed by your presence, don't bother with her. If you truly click with a girl she will literally be attracted to you when you approach. Before even stating intent she will come closer to you and light up. If you negatively "bother" the girl, she will let you know by not investing and looking bored/unimpressed. The general energy will be off and too much pushing will feel needy. She either clicks within the first 10 seconds or not. But of course, it is also possible to just have pleasant conversations with girls who are not interested. If you feel you are selling yourself or proving yourself to a girl, this means you have a subtle neediness. I had this lately where I approached the girl, and it immediately clicked. She actually closed me but also told me she is extremely busy in her life, this subtly pushed me out of my relaxed state and I started pushing more for a set date. I became a seller and I could see this turned her off a little.

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@Kid A Even though Northern European girls are globally idealized as the most beautiful on earth and in a sense they are: tall, blonde, blue eyes, perfect facial features. But that is to overlook that they are generally more masculine, level-headed and in my opinion, often lacking that girly cuteness and magical feminity of for example Slavic girls. Or the openness, spontaneity and sexual embrace of Latina and southern European girls.

Northern European girls suck for approaching. Obviously, if you click it will still work. But when it doesn't they have the most shitty reactions. I think it's the deep-seated Calvinist mentality that makes street approaching so not-done in their eyes. There is a cultural emphasis on plainness and social norms over sexual polarity and social freedom. Though southern European, Latina and Slavic girls absolutely love and really appreciate being approached even if it doesn't necessarily click.

@Hardkill Cool thing with western societies is that are they multicultural, if you don't click with the main group find some nationality or culture you click most with. I can see a clear pattern in all the girls I dated, they are most often Eastern European, follow a high level of education and two of them were gothic girls. Funny thing is that on dates I often talk about Dante and I have never had a girl not knowing him or his work. I seem to click with the most intelligent and feminine girls, so in this sense I am lucky. I am exceptionally unlucky though when it comes to landing a girlfriend. I have to do some improvements on this front, maybe this year will be my year. Like seriously at some point me not getting a girlfriend would be a statistical impossibility.

It definitely works, I have proven this to myself and got hooked. It's actually a good way to get the highest quality girls with whom you click the most. Just learning this stuff can be brutal and will involve some cringy ass fuck ups. Although I have heard this legend of a guy who approached 30 000 women and never got laid. That's crazy! If that's true that means that not all men are suitable for day game. Maybe if you're overly masculine or have a severe lack of masculinity, have some kind of cursed vibe, or are mentally ill, day game will just never work for you.

A long time ago I had a bad trip on psilocybin. I emailed my 'study coordinator' a desperate text in which I just have an absolute breakdown and explain that I can't handle the big project I was working on at the time. Luckily she just ignored the mail, and it was as if nothing ever happened. I almost never saw her in real life so things were never awkward and I finished the project just fine.

@Hardkill It's strange that it happens so often. A buddy of mine also said he got kicked out of a mall once. I guess when you're starting out and you're not that calibrated you should stay away from malls and begin with long walks in a big city environment where you are very anonymous and have more room to fuck up. Also, don't approach in front of mall cops or do it very calibrated because mall cops are extremely bored throughout the day and will find any excuse to be "useful". Approaching in front of regular cops should be absolutely fine. You really must be a shady creep if you get a warning then.

I am obsessed with medieval art and architecture. For example the creepy yet awesome aura of a medieval statue I find so fascinating. I can stare at it for hours. I just want to own one. The cost varies a lot but generally, for a respectable art piece, the cost is similar to that of a secondhand small car. With all the inflation going on, Is it a good long-term investment to buy it, keep it and sell it when the time is ripe? (or even pass on to the next generation).

@Majed This should be the number one lesson of game. Don't make it a (clown) show. Always be aware of the people and situation and then approach. 5-7 approaches are enough and don't circle too much around. Make it look like you're approaching an old friend or asking for directions. The most cringiest form of game is when a dude just stands still on a busy street/square and stops every woman that passes. I call that river-tax game. It's bad for your reputation, mental health, is creepy and gives daygame a bad reputation.

Medieval art is something like a creepy old statue you find in your grandpa's attic except it's 600 years old and has a mystical aura. I am really attracted to that creepiness and mystiek. Tip: go to a museum while micro-dosed on LSD, you'll understand what I am talking about.

@FourCrossedWands It's the "art" in the statues that really fascinate me but I also appreciate other art forms like manuscripts. @ZGROPIUS It's a long-term investment, so keeping it and even passing it on after death is part of it.