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@RMQualtrough True Self is what you are and the universe is experimental, it is still a universe made up of different experiences, experience does not end but the ego certainly does. Experience does not end since it is all that there is, but you as an ego of memorys and thoughts does not continue but that does not mean that experience ends. In my case iam more curious and a little bit nervous about what comes next. If the case is that the universe is truly mental as you can recognize, then existence is experience, and if existence always is then experience always is. So a lack of memory is not a proof for non existence. Just like a psychedelic experience causes ego death and subjects under a brain scan show reduced brain activity when experience is richer, thats more likely the case that when we die the possibilitys of vastly different experiences opens up since the limited ego and body mind is not there to limit experience down to 5 senses.

To me this just feel like you get lost in semantics and word games with cessation, it is still a state which can be achieved by spiritual practices which to me just clarifys that a cessation state exists as a possibility which means that it is not non existence. Is deep dreamless sleep non existence? If you are worried about cessation of awareness when the body dies it is still a materialistic notion of death and that the brain creates conciousness. Also, to make something out of nothing and also make it ordered requires infinite intelligence imo, so either way the groundless ground is infinite intelligence. Existence is, and you are existence, existence does not come and go, existence can only produce existence from within it, it means that if you exist now it is not a illogical conclusion to say that you have always existed since you are existence or are a part of existence like all plants animals stars and so forth. If existence came from non existence then it just shows that existence will exist again, or If existence has always been then you have always been.

Perhaps the view of a virtual reality aint that bad but there is not a computer behind the simulation, it is conciousness. So there are certain "laws" and "rules" to have in order to have an experience which is consistent and that we can make reality out of. It is the rule set of the game so to speak. But it is still a human construct of laws and so forth, nature does not make laws, nature is the way it is because it is what it is ?

Welcome ? How can you be sure of anything? It is only a subjective experience? There is only subjective experience tbh, it is the ground for anything else to be. There is no science or a world without conciousness, we can speculate all we want that a world or a universe exists outside of conciousness, but that is a world wide belief held in a subjective experience. Is not every experience happening inside mind then? But why can you observe mind? Mind observing mind? So science and the things we know about the universe is inside mind to? Since experience is inside mind then the universe is inside the mind? Just some questions for you to contemplate. Why dont you question your scepticism enough and investigate why psychedelics wouldnt give you the truth? Why would psychedelics be less true than a math equation? Who or what puts the meaning of science or psychedelics? Who is more right? If 1000 people trip and reach the same conclusions is that false or right? And according to who's standard?

Welcome to the forum ? Just observe it, notice that it is another thought that you are scared and that there is two voices in your head, but whats aware of that? Just observe yourself again and again, many radical things can appear but it is completely normal so do not worry mate ?

I believe that it is the shadow goverment that has this technology and the politician and some military does not know about. I do believe that they have reversed engineered crash sites of UFO's and made their own crafts. Aliens has been here but maybe they aint here no more since mankind is primitive and not that evolved. I do feel that china/russia/US have shadow goverment, which is top secret which the majority of the ordinarie goverment does not know about.

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Ask him about the placebo effect and what his thoughts is about that topic, try to look up some more information about it, and the nocebo effect. How our minds effect diseases and can cure illnesses.

I think that labeling narcsissm only to be empath less or so forth is a simplification of the term. Narcisists have a harder time understanding feelings in general since it has been repressed for a long time and there is a big shadow imo in narcisissm, i also believe that todays culture is producing way more narcissism then cultures before. Logic and reason is valued and the pursuit of materialistic things, intuition and emotions is taking a step back for most people and they relay heavily on logic/reason and " common manner" but it is not really a good thing for humans since we are emotional creatures and repressing feelings in the long run makes you cold and off from your true self i would say. It should be some sort of balance between the two.

Nice report It is perfectly normal to feel weird after an awakening experience, it is a major thing in ones life to wake up. It is also normal to doubt or to not fathom what happend at the trip, it takes time to integrate and to contemplate what happend and so forth, but as you get used to this kinds of "states" the more understanding happens and it becomes smoothful more and more. Take some break and just be now and do normal stuff and contemplate this experience and life in general but not to much since it can cause some distress, but it is nothing to worry about, you got a good community here who can help out and help you with your questions. Take it easy and be safe mate and we are here for you if needed

Thanks alot ?

Yes totally agree with this! When im coming home from work i usually rest for 30 mins and it is insane how much lucid i can become when starting to fall asleep, my whole visual field morphs into objects/characters and different enviroments haha it is awesome and I do feel that it shows the fluidity of Mind and what it can create is limitless

Enjoy

This new video was totally worth the whole time ??

@Salvijus Cheers ?

@TDLH That was really profound and does indeed make sense alot! Thanks ?

@Salvijus Yeah I understand you but it still has to come full circle into the realization that life is as well as much truth as anything else since there is no distinction made in actuality only mind might do it. But I somehow i do feel that if full 100% cessation forever would be possible then there would not be this here. If GOD could cease itself it would strangeloop into that it is full aware again if you get me ? Sounds a bit like theravadin(spelling?) Buddhism that stresses more or less "spiritual suicide " but it was not really the Buddhas teachings, anatta for example was more a statement meant : This is not my soul that is not my soul etc. Not that Self is unreal. The yellow robes theravadins teaches " this is all there ism" IE the psycho physical is all that there is. It comes as no suprise that thousands of years old teachings gets corrupted. Buddha was asked what to call his path or teaching and he said it would be called : Brahma jama or something like that, which means path to Brahman or Path to the Absolute. He taught liberation but not really spiritual suicide. He was more in line with Advaita Vedanta then not. But who cares right ?‍♂️ And on the psychedelics part even science says it shutdowns the default mode network more or less, IE ego process. But for that to happend you need a pretty high dose usually but some people can get it on 150 mcg lsd but not in my case. Ego death can be a tough nut to stomach when it happens as well but afterwards it is bliss more or less. It shows alot i feel for how the death process will unfold or atleast the beginning part of it. So it is more to learn to stomach to die. But 10 trips etc is not enough either to get a grasp on it. But psychedelics is not the end all be all either, contemplation/meditation/self inquiry is necessary imo. Cheers mate ?

Yeaah like this or something like it would be awesome, sure the problem would be that maybe some people would label it cult like even more, but is it really unavoidable? I dont know but there is some potential in this, will sorta clear out the unserious people. One thing is clear imo and that is that this forum is a fucking blessing to us all and your work is amazing Leo, I feel in my heart that you will go down as one of the biggest philosophers/teachers in history. There is no one with that depth on the psyche, life, God and so forth. Your work is extremely important imo and I dont know where i would have been in my life without your channel. It has grown me tremendously. Thank you for all that you do.

You are creating a bias with cessations and "non experience" why would that be more true then a psychedelic state if you really look into it. Ofcourse those states you speak of is important but so is a full blown ego death on psychedelics. There is no lowest or highest if you look, or less true or more true, atleast not when experience get recontextualized as true no matter the content of a particular experience Experience comes and goes and there is no point holding on to any particular one. And if you have not tried psychedelics it is not something you can imagine how it would be like trust me, there is nothing like it imo.

Yes it is good to be honest with how you feel ? It is probably my bias with how i got raised and my worldview that people should take responsebility for themselves, but it does not work that way always so I realized i came out a bit to harsh and sounded a bit rude ? But feels good that we solved it mate ? I wish you a great day! ?

Im sorry for coming off harsch against you. It was not my intention and for that im sorry. I agree that Leo now has to incorporate much more warnings since this has happend and it is very unfortuneate that this has happend. All im saying is that people have to take the responsebility they can for themselves and ofcourse we all should help the situation and try to make sure people dont misunderstand the teachings, since this is all about love in the end. ??

This is just ridiculous. What do you expect from people like really? Take responsebility for your own life and IF the case may be that you listen to someone else and then make a move on what the person has teached or said it is YOU who is responseble NOT the one saying the words which you interpret in your own way and act on your own accord. Dont you see the stupidity in that? In this case the guy was a grown up man who made his own choice, how tf do you control others? and who are we to judge his reasons for doing what he has done? Have you not learned enough about life that controlling others is more or less impossible? People will people exactly as apples apples. Contemplate what I just said to you. Leo has plenty of warnings issued throughout his videos for years dude. And what do you expect Leo do to? Lie so people dont misunderstand him? This is not just about Leo this is about people in general. People cant obviously think for themselves and when they fuck up they blame others cause that is much easier then looking into yourself and seeing how delusional youve been the whole time.

Great video so far Leo! Many golden nuggets in it

I can get behind this as well!