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People are a bit biased as well with a mindset of, oh its just the chinese or the russians or the goverment. I think that to dismiss the possibility of alien craft is a bias of the human mind which lack imagination and a deep understanding of the possibility that reality holds. It is a possibility that these space crafts is being controlled by conciousness/mind. Conciousness does affect machines, even on earth. Just because your imagination is limited does not mean that the universe is limited at all to what kind of different worlds there is or species etc. To dismiss people who think there might really be alien is a worse bias then to conclude that yes it is probably alien. How brain washed some people are from society and reductionistic views as well.

Haha this feels familiar! I also have this perception sorta, reality feels like an illusion, like it is not really there. But at the same time it feels completely real, such an paradox

@RMQualtrough sorry man I accidently edited your post, I think you have to reply to @TreyMoney again, sorry ? Oh no man he does not equate nothingness with conciousness, nothingness is the Absolute Infinite non being. The godhead, is so nothing that it enables everything, pregnant with infinity of something but it always go back to nothingness. Nothingness is the ground for everything to be is what he is saying

If you like this theme of nothingness I can suggest a book that goes right up your alley so to speak. God is nothingness- andre Halaw

The life divine - sri aurobindo The nature of conciousness- rupert spira Punk science inside the mind of god The wisdom of the overself - paul brunton Yoga vashista I AM THAT- Nisargadatta maharaj Why materialism is baloney - bernardo kastrup Cloud of unknowing Return to the one - Brian Hines Emptiness dancing - adyashanti Awareness - osho Proof of heaven - Dr. Eben alexander. The heart of plotinus - algis uzdavinys Decoding jungs metaphysics - bernardo kastrup Enlightened mind, divine mind - paul brunton Be as you are the teachings of sri ramana maharashi - David godman. Yeah I like to read ?? I got more in store but this is a good list imo. Amazing life transforming books, if applied ofcourse ?

Yes indeed like a vr headset almost! It is amazing to just sit and observe the enviroment, at a certain point it does not feel real anymore lol, totally void of anything

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Yeah I agree that it is limitless, limitless in what it can experience. What I dont really "agree" upon is that this nothingness can do stuff that is not an experience if you get me? For it to be it has to be an experience, now I mean existence,even if it just a void with no content etc. If you mean otherwise you postulate a nothingness (non existence) we are trying to get behind conciousness and then report back about it. Like materialism claiming there is objects outside of our experience that produces our experience but there is no way to proof it or to experience it. Experience is here and now always. It is a thing tk become concious of infinity, sure some say it is even not conciousness it is being, but I use the word interchangebly. Non being/being/nothing/everything/conciousness/awareness etc. Infinity is the best explanation but how is it possible to be anything without awareness?

Reality is extremely ordered and intelligent imo. And I truly feel that conciousness is that which sets things in order. There is no non existence. Existence is what it is and can not become anything else. By looking through the scientific paradigm they claim randomness and so forth because they do not understand certain things. Conciousness matters so to speak. But when seen through the illusion of this dream it is shown that all forms and colours and so forth is totally void of anything. It is more like we are the void projection shapes and colours and movement but in reality there is none. Conciousness and mind is what produces reality, how can a physical universe exist somewhere? Where are we? What location? The only possibility imo is that it is held inside a mind/conciousness but we get so decivied by our senses so we believe in a physical material reality existing in a universe somewhere. Conciousness is the creator, universal mind holds everything. The only possibility is to dream, it is more like conciousness dreams up storys and then actualizes it. Infinite dream machine. Leo really nails it when he says reality is gods imagination. Infinite imagination. I dont think creation is random at all or that it is infinite possibilitys that create reality. The only logical conclusion imo is that conciousness is nothing and then goes on to shape forms like an infinite clay which is unlimited in what it can shape. Dreams imo is the best way to seal the deal with this in mind. You create a world and characters out of seemingly nothing. Sounds a lot like how reality got created. It dreams a view point and becomes a seperate self from the rest, or so it fools itself into believing. Just observe reality without labels and it becomes obvious that there is no other way for reality to exist other then in conciousness. The fundamental ground is aware and intelligent as a mofo. We can postulate that conciousness came from somewhere but yet again that is a back story for how creation came about. Conciousness is GOD. And it is nothing but imagines everything else. Or another way to put it is that it folds over itself to look at it self in a mirror.

What if emptiness is a construct and there is no such thing as emptiness?

I have a question for you If the ground is nothingness aka no experience whatsoever, no observer, no conciousness, then what makes the nothingness become somethingness. How does it become experience? Try to imagine non existence, if its the ground, how can anything be? Then somehow something makes "non duality" become "duality" I dont think that this pure cessation has anything to do with any ground of existence at all, it is just another experience in a form of a "non experience" Like Leo says, there is also infinite conciousness which is very different from the nothingness of cessation. Which is the one that tells you more about the nature of reality? Perhaps neither, only that conciousness has an infinite range of knowing itself. Here is where buddhism and hinduism often clash, new age buddhism is making a biased claim in that cessation is the most important. To me it feels like a spiritual suicide since sone buddhists just say that the psycho-physical is all that there is, Aka atomists/materialists. If GOD is nothingness etc, why does it become this? Why does it seemingly produce an infinite variety of experiences objects subjects etc. Maybe our ordinarie waking conciousness is the ground of existence? Just a contemplation exercise. Either we are GOD which is eternal/immortal/infinite. But it does feel off that GOD could kill itself with a cessation "forever" it is obviously not the case, I think cessation is a good night sleep sorta thing.

@Someone here What do you feel is the worst part? What is the worst case scenario in your opinion?

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It does make alot of sense when you put it that way and I cant say other then I mostly agree on what you are saying here. Like what can possibly exist without an awareness of its surrounding? Experiences ive had clearly points to the fact that it is conciousness that it is extremely empty/nothingness like space and everything in it is imagined in one way or another. It is like empty space but full of possibility. It has a certain order or structure to it. Atleast this dream universe has. I wonder what dreams might come next it is just "sad" that I wont know how this dream went when another one starts. Perhaps there is some sort of akashic record with all the memories from this dream and others which one can access, I certainly see it as a possibility. Either way conciousness is immortal and eternal no matter if its in pure nothingness or in "GOD" mode. Tat tvam asi ?

But then we have the other side of the coin and if we borrow a terminology from the hindus, a saguna brahman. That is brahman with infinite qualities, infinite being with infinite conciousness and infinite experiences. Which is an infinite mind as well. I really like the saguna/nirguna brahman teachings. Nirguna is more of a principle and saguna is the active part of brahman. Nirguna=non being perhaps Saguna = GOD as it is traditionally known. Perhaps you created the universe and this is a play since there is nothing to do. Either bliss forever within itself or create exciting dreams where there are others and you forgot your true nature. I think the both theories can be combined into one unified whole which can include Nothingness and everythingness. An infinite fractal and it is also a holon. That makes sense to me ? Infinite candy store with infinite possibilitys of horror,bliss,excitment,universes etc.

@RMQualtrough But the general anaesticia is a "jump" In concious awareness, there is no possibility to remain in an unconcious state since it is like time travel. What does that say about the nature of conciousness in my opinion? That conciousness can not experience unconciousness. But still there are people who has OBE's or remain as a silent witness through anesthesia as well so it is not really a valid argument for nothingness either, my GF was awake during surgery even tho she didnt feel anything and she was put to sleep. A more valid point would be the cessation in meditation, but that as well may last for an eternity but it is not possible to "experience" it in that manner. I like your theory btw. Some teachers/lineages talk about the Absolute prior to conciousness but they also claim that it is an awareness with infinite potential and that conciousness is its agent. Perhaps it is the case of a nothingness that exist or that it is being and non being at the same time and both and neither as it is said. Perhaps nothingness is the "ground", maybe it is more of a principle then a being. Like pure GOD in it self might not be a being but an creative principle that has no other choice then to actualize its infinite potential since it is not a being. If that is the case then it is safe to conclude imo that conciousness is reality and it has always been since the Absolute is outside of time and space and it does what it does since it is what it is haha if you get me. God is perhaps existence and non existence but transcend both. It is a radical thing which kinda is impossible to grab. But the Absolute produces dreams and different universes and it is not two and then you are IT always and forever since time is the dream. To paraphrase Donald Hoffmans statement : We are like kids in an infinite candy store ready to explore for all of eternity ?? There is no end to conciousness since there is no possibility to experience the absence of conciousness forever, then it is just experience happening to no one. I think that it is possible to experience without a body and brain, why wouldnt it? What would say that is not possible? You can experience yourself as a glass of orange juice lol. So experience is the only thing that can happen since the Absolute is more or less like non existence to us, it is a principle and a produces infinite dreams and universes. Nice conversation btw i really enjoy it. ?

This is a must watch for everybody on this forum who are insecure about the teachings on this forum and who are insecure about the validity of Universal Mind! I suggest you begin from part 1 and keep going until the last part. Part 5 as I shared here is profound in its implications of evidence for idealism and that physicalism is a outdated bias our culture holds. Enjoy and please do comment what you learned by watching this series by essentia foundation. @Leo Gura i think you should watch this too.

What if there is nothing but experiencing? Experience experiences experience ??? What if the universe is only experience and experience has always been forever and ever. What if nothingness is just a construction? Not saying that this is true. Have you ever in your entire life had something that is not an experience? What if prior to your birth you had a different experience but the memory is not clear on that? What if the universe is a field of phenomenal conciousness and there is naught else but experience? The universal mind, the unconcious in jungian terms, it is not unconcious as in not conciousness, but it is not a self reflective conciousness, "meta conciousness " but it is phenomenal conciousness, just like in a dream, you only know you are dreaming when you become lucid, exactly like in life when awakening occurs, then you become lucid also. There is nothing else but phenomenal conciousness and it is always moving and changing aka impermance. The universal field is a transpersonal infinity of phenomenal conciousness, that is obvious in psychedelic trips, dreams, NDE's etc. What if reality is experience and there is nothing else? Conciousness is the substratum of reality, it can go infinitely "low" and infinitely "high" There is no limit to what kind of experiences thats possible. Everything is brahman and that thou art.

This post is full of assumptions. Firstly that the big bang happend and that no experience was present at that event. Secondly that the brain creates conciousness. The big bang is a conceptual story as is the story of the brain creating conciousness but there is zero scientific evidence that the brain produces conciousness hence the hard problem of conciousness, but it is only a hard problem when looking through the lens of materialism. It is just an speculation that there was something going on prior to conciousness. There is evidence that when the brain stop functioning there is richer more vast spectrums of experience available. And there is still conciousness when your under surgery etc when they conducted science on it but it not a memory recall of the actual experience. As well as deep sleep. A lack of memory is not proof for lack of conciousness. Read up on Dr. Eben alexanders case when he was in a coma for 7 days with an brain barely functioning. And when people have the most alive and vibrant experiences the brain is reduced in activity. Like LSD/DMT/mushrooms/Ndes etc.

@justfortoday Nice post brother and Nice to see you back on the forum ??

It is all about the mind and the overall picture and how open minded and non judgemental you are/can be. Genetics play a role and brain function and psychological states of mind etc. When open mindedness is practiced to the bone, all concepts dissolve and language break down and then Reality is revealed as it has always been beneath all concepts and beliefs etc but has been hidden since it is the only "constant"

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@RMQualtrough True Self is what you are and the universe is experimental, it is still a universe made up of different experiences, experience does not end but the ego certainly does. Experience does not end since it is all that there is, but you as an ego of memorys and thoughts does not continue but that does not mean that experience ends. In my case iam more curious and a little bit nervous about what comes next. If the case is that the universe is truly mental as you can recognize, then existence is experience, and if existence always is then experience always is. So a lack of memory is not a proof for non existence. Just like a psychedelic experience causes ego death and subjects under a brain scan show reduced brain activity when experience is richer, thats more likely the case that when we die the possibilitys of vastly different experiences opens up since the limited ego and body mind is not there to limit experience down to 5 senses.

To me this just feel like you get lost in semantics and word games with cessation, it is still a state which can be achieved by spiritual practices which to me just clarifys that a cessation state exists as a possibility which means that it is not non existence. Is deep dreamless sleep non existence? If you are worried about cessation of awareness when the body dies it is still a materialistic notion of death and that the brain creates conciousness. Also, to make something out of nothing and also make it ordered requires infinite intelligence imo, so either way the groundless ground is infinite intelligence. Existence is, and you are existence, existence does not come and go, existence can only produce existence from within it, it means that if you exist now it is not a illogical conclusion to say that you have always existed since you are existence or are a part of existence like all plants animals stars and so forth. If existence came from non existence then it just shows that existence will exist again, or If existence has always been then you have always been.

Perhaps the view of a virtual reality aint that bad but there is not a computer behind the simulation, it is conciousness. So there are certain "laws" and "rules" to have in order to have an experience which is consistent and that we can make reality out of. It is the rule set of the game so to speak. But it is still a human construct of laws and so forth, nature does not make laws, nature is the way it is because it is what it is ?