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You will become the world, thats oneness, formless presence. Thats it. Nothing is not " non concious" , the form just dissolves. Presence IS. There really is no non existence. Deep sleep and dreaming would really tell you something about reality and how the infinite presence just becomes everything and holds it. When awakening occurs it is the realization that the form and ego is a fiction and is not the presence but at the same time it is since there is nothing else. Nothing aka pure consciousness dreams.

I suggesr you look up Bernardo Kastrup. We are dissociated alters of the Universal mind. Thats why we cant read each others thoughts etc. But it is a phenomena field of conciousness, so big bang did not happen in a "nothing" We have alot of evidence for the multiple personality disorders which do not know about the other alters in their own mind. Evolution happen since it is outside our individual minds but it is how the Universal mind looks like from the outside, just how "inner concious activity" looks like brain functions when observed from the outside. Evolution is probably for the Universal mind to become meta concious, unfathomable suffering has been put into producing beings with meta conciousness IE self awareness. He can explain this much better but his theory definetly holds water when combining subjective and objective phenomena, he still believes in an external world which is the Universal mind and it is nothing like this "world" If we would see the truth we would dissolve thats why evolution favor survival and not the truth, there is evidence for this. Those being that get to see the truth and the world as it is in it self dies. There is never an unobserved universe or reality.

Youtube, theorys of everything ?

A cop has been killed in sweden in a "ghetto" last night..

Hi guys! Sat yesterday contemplating after listening to a podcast with Bernardo Kastrup and it hit me that there is only 2 metaphysics that can be postulated really. Sure how it works and so forth is a matter of a different discussion but the 2 metaphysics we can really postulate is about death. Either it is the materialism mindset of there will be no experience when death occurs, when you are dead experience ceases to exist and everything goes to non existence for eternity. The other is that experience is fundamental to reality IE conciousness/Mind and that experience will never cease to be, it will be an eternity of Joy but also a immense eternity of your own hell and suffering. Sure we have deep sleep but experience always reboots since the ground is a transpersonal "field" of "subjective" experiences. Either we suffer 1 time and then it is lights out or we will suffer for eternity but memory might not follow in between lifes. If it is true that GOD IS and GOD is eternal it means that conciousness is eternal and all we can do is dream dreams, and when death comes we wake up to realize it was a dream all along. Which one would you prefer and why? And what does experiences point to in your honest opinion?

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You literally came in saying concepts about this is devilish and thats why Leos teaching is not that good, how is that for a personal opinion and create seperation between teachings yourself? Leo is not that good but ralston is etc, thats all fine but recognize that it is your opinion nevertheless, Leo has had more impact on me then ralston, then Leo is better for me and ralston for you, but who is right? No one ofcourse. But it is still in this reference an assumption that someone gets mad about you picking on Leos teachings, how is it relevant in this thread if someone 1 time defended leo but not in this thread? You speak of judgement and the funny thing is how you yourself is judging Leos teachings cause it does not fit your views of enlightenment or what not. Or we can turn it around and label it constructive criticism, no matter how we turn it, we can keep going all night or just agree to disagree. But in my interpretation there is a subtle " passive" agressiveness in your comments, but if that is not the case then im wrong about that interpretation, and if so, im sorry. But you should still see through that every teaching is filled of concepts, some resonates with you and some dont and thats all fine brother, I just dont agree with you about who's teachings is more or less better, but who cares? If it works for you im cincerely happy for you ? Im not trying to argue here or something so misunderstand me right, just trying to point out as well, but lets not derail the topic, have a great night

@IAmReallyImportant Firstly thats an assumption that people get mad, especially in this thread. Remember that you are projecting this unto others, What if someone has experienced it exactly as Leo laid it out, there is no such thing as non conceptualization when it comes to this when using language, perhaps it is your attitude against his teachings that might be a bias? ? You prefer ralston over Leo, thats your preferences and I disagree on that part, see? This is not such an easy thing as 1+1=2 Also you create a bias out of that some are getting upset but still you dont seem to feel that your attitude and preferences is a bias YOU have that ralston has a better teaching then Leo

Care to elaborate??

Yes the same iamness in me is the same within you, I just feel that experience continues in very different forms all the time, like a field of transpersonal phenomena, like a psychedelic trip almost

Yes nice Greg ? seeing will happen about the nature of death and life sooner or later, no need to fear anything, glad that you feel peaceful

Yeah I dont see how the odds of us being here, contemplated it yesterday of wtf why do I even exist it is literally insane, like wtf is this reality, the logical conclusion is that reality is and that it is not two. But really contemplate, how come "you" exist?

Nice questions and it definetly is something to contemplate. What I meant with this inquiry is that, according to the vast majority of scientist which is ofcourse materialists claims that conciousness is a brain function and when the brain ceases so does conciousness. IE it is a transistion from "alive" existence to "dead " non existence. Obviously they have no clear consistent evidence in favor of this claim. If we really investigate it, it is conciousness that has " brains" if that makes sense. When im refering to the "who" is ofcourse conciousness. It is the one enabling this, whatever it is. Universe = conciousness Conciousness = Universe, there is clearly zero seperation between the two. So it is not two. What I mean with experiences, is that we can label this = experience in the limited sense of language. There is either eternity of this how ever it might be or it will be eternity of not this. Hehe if that makes any sense. This is more of a philosophical inquiry then anything else, but it has real implications nevertheless imho. Either non existence is true and real or it is not, thats what am getting at.

That would be awesome if you get on his show Leo! I like Curt and how he asks questions, I believe his channel will be a big one. I just so think that his audience is a big mix of materialism all the way to conciousness only paradigm ??

Yeaaah it was a great interview!

Yes brother yes ??

Keep going its nothing to worry about, also had deep meditations like that, hehe it is insane. But it is even more insane on lsd trip, it literally felt like I stopped breathing for a looooong time, It felt like I became so concious that I saw through the illusion of my body and the breath

Nice writing ? really good

There will always be different interpretations by different people. It is just an opinion using thoughts like everybody else. Go your own path and see what is true. But I dont understand people on Youtube commenting and "debunking" others. I speak in general and not just this guy. I sense a big ego from people who are trying to constantly debunk others and to show how they are right and the other is wrong. Typical humans ?? As I said go your own path, listen to teachers and different teachings but dont hold a particular one as the ultimate truth. Concepts and words and thoughts can NOT grasp the infinite and to say this is so and this is not so using a finite mind to grasp the ungraspable and then arguing about that this finite model is more and better then your model. Lol. It is infinite, you can speak about it forever and still miss infinite more of it. Some concepts might be more of use then others but thats about it ime.

Yes I agree, and i think the configuration of the five senses limits our perception of "infinity" down to what we see in front of us, and psychedelics alters that either really radical or just a bit, same with other drugs or breathing techniques etc. But then we have the mind which do not really rely on the five senses in that way, if we look at dreams etc, then it is the "subtle" mind which can create out of a seemingly nothing and is not in need of the gross physical senses to create an experience and a dream world. " Nothing is known except through the modality of the knower " Thats why i feel that this singularity is limiting it self down to our 3 d world. We are a black hole, black holes is the most destructive and the most creative thing in the universe. A singularity. The singularity is the mind of GOD, we are in the mind of god here

There is certainly a reason why the majority of people believes in the materialist paradigm. It does make sense at the "shallow" level of reality. But when you start looking into evidence and use logic and reason on the materialistic paradigm it kinda breaks down fast, and then meditate, become aware and just be in the moment. Just let everything be exactly how it is without trying anything. Let thoughts arise and feelings and do not force anything. Investigate reality without a non dual paradigm or materialism, IE without assumptions. Non duality might be wrong too. Just be and Investigate scientific evidence for idealism, I suggest you start with bernado kastrup and essentia foundation on Youtube but dont Just assume that it is true, just listen, and then Investigate your direct experience without a need to have something to happend. Eventually there might be a clean break down of your prior assumptions and then Reality shines through and a remembering happens, but it has always been the same it is just that has been hidden by alot of thoughts/beliefs/paradigms.

Is it not that everything is awareness in different modifications? How else does it work together? Scientist is moving towards conciousness as fundamental which sages has been saying for centuries. Nothingness is concious apparently ? Since it is outside of space and time there has never been a time where it was not concious or aware. It is conflicting sides, some say conciousness is fundamental and some say nothingness. But are they not actually the same when we really dig into it? Not two. Sure but that postulates an unknowable universe which we can never confirm tho. Only knowing is and that is conciousness. Same with cessations, what knew that cessation occured? You get me? Awareness is a non personal presence, it takes forms of ego and perception but that is just a fantasy that thoughts made up. Infinite conciousness is something that can be nothingness and everythingness. That makes more sense to me. Like Leo says, different states of conciousness. Some would disagree to this tho. If infinite conciousness is the ground then it has limit it self off from other possibilitys in order to have the experience it has now. The universe. Possibility does not necessarily mean actuality

Godhead is the ineffable ABSOLUTE, the VOID, only is what it is in itself. Or Mind in itself. Then it has an active part which is GOD which is the creative part. It is all Mind, either Godhead/nothingness/void. Or GOD, infinite imagination, infinite thought, infinite energy. Conciousness is what IS, Being is. Non being - being Formlessness- form There is only two different sides of the same coin. Zero/one. The sages throughout has called it the Absolute Awareness, where there is no me/we/subject/object. Thats the field of being which is everything. Godhead has a being which is unknowable, mind in itself without anything else. Godhead transcends being and non being, existence or non existence. To "us" the godhead is as it were not. But it is being as it is without anything added to it. The source of all is the ineffable godhead. Mind/conciousness is fundamental reality. Some call it nothingness, some call it infinite conciousness, godhead etc, tao, the Absolute. It has an active and a non active part. Thats the only way to reconcile both this views. Mind in itself is unknowable but the active part is the universe. But to say that the fundamental reality is an unconcious principle we err greatly.