Artsu

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  3. Posted

    14 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    I'm sorry. So yeah, it's true that when you're already inside, it's harder to get out. However, I would propose to you that it wasn't a mystical experience that put you in there. It was something else.

    Now, as for the question, do I experience recurring mystical experiences? Yes. It's more calming than energizing though.

    Thanks.

    It was the way I reacted in response to my mystical experience that put me there. You don't know the story, but it involves corruption on the part of my mum and the mental health system.

    Mystical experiences can indeed be calming, but they can also be energising.

    I become "grandiose" during some experiences, seeing myself as a powerful being. During other, related, experiences, I may see myself as the only mind in existence.

    I come out of this after a while.

    I've had many such experiences. Sometimes it gets highly intense. That is all.

  4. Posted

    11 minutes ago, puporing said:

    @Artsu Yeah you’re not alone. Lately I am seeing more goldeny bright light in everything and it’s 24/7.. like things have very noticeable increase in glow and radiance to them that wasn’t there before. Everything is taking on a “heavenly” vibe and I’m enjoying it :).

    About therapists, the couple I’ve talked to awhile back about some my trips were receptive about mystical experiences. It depends.

    Yes that definitely sounds mystical.

    I haven't had much experience with therapists.

    My posts in this thread deal with psychiatry/the psych ward, not counselling.

    I feel that if I ever saw a counsellor again that the reaction wouldn't be terrible, at the very least, but with the exception of my loneliness, I can't think of a reason to see one.

    I hope your experiences remain positive and go well for you. :)

  5. Posted

    Just now, JuliusCaesar said:

    It doesn't matter what it was, you could have told them that you became bigfoot and ate the moon and found out it was made of cheese. All you have to do is pretend to be normal by never mentioning to them your experiences henceforth. And pretending to be "normal". then they'll think you've reformed and aren't "crazy" anymore.

     

    If you care so little about these people, why don't you manipulate them into treating you like a healthy individual. Which, as far as I can see, you are.

    Key word: manipulate.

    I've never had a practice of manipulation and can't see myself adopting one.

  7. Posted

    1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

    Last question: was she only worried about you talking to spirits or was it something else?

    It was something else.

    I talk to spirits throughout the day, every day.

    Does no one else change their behaviour when going through mystical experiences?

    I find your constant questioning highly offensive.

    Contribute to the thread, or move on.

    Yes I'm aware that you said that was your last question, but I am NOT OKAY with this personal attack you've launched against me.

    You're a corrupt individual. I'm not saying that the other members of this forum aren't, but you've made this personal.

    Please, contribute productively. Stop tearing down with your evil idiocy.

  8. Posted

    Just now, JuliusCaesar said:

    You don't have to lie, what I do is turn it around on them. "Are you claiming I have supernatural powers?" is the kind of question I tend to ask people when they try to put me in a corner.

     

    So, for you, in this specific scenario you mentioned. I'd say, "By what power do you think I could communicate with the dead? They're dead... that would be some awesome ability if indeed there was someone doing that." The bottom line is, don't outright deny the truth, but force the other party into admitting that they don't know if you're telling the truth or not. That way, you appear totally sane to them, and they can't hold anything against you.

     

    And this is what makes what Leo does so fascinating. Because unlike me, he actually goes out of his way to make these kinds of things known publicly. 

     

    I try that, and will try again, but ultimately these people are unreasonable.

    It doesn't matter what the truth is, it's whatever they decide.

    Also, they view argumentation as evidence that one is mentally ill.

    I've had very bad experiences as a result of standing up for myself.

     

    Anyway, I'm hoping I don't get put in this situation again.

    I have a psychiatrist appointment in the coming weeks where I will do more work for my case.

    Wish me luck!

     

  9. Posted · Edited by Artsu

    3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    Were you hospitalized because you were talking to spirits, or is it that they don't let you leave because you're talking to spirits?

     

    I can't answer that when I'm unclear what you mean by the concept.

    I was unable to leave because of it.

    I was put in there because my mum was worried about me and called them.

    Once you're in the system, one phone call is all it takes.

    Needless to say, my mum doesn't understand mystical experiences.

    Her perceptions of me mean nothing.

    And your perceptions of me mean even less.

     

  10. Posted

    3 minutes ago, amanen said:

    Why don't you just stop talking to them while you are in there and no longer talk about your mystical experiences to the people in there? I don't understand why you are even letting them know of anything like this, it's obvious they would interpret it as a mental illness.

    Also, the fact that you said "it's obvious" shows that you understand the corruption.

    @Carl-Richard take note.

  11. Posted

    Just now, amanen said:

    Why don't you just stop talking to them while you are in there and no longer talk about your mystical experiences to the people in there? I don't understand why you are even letting them know of anything like this, it's obvious they would interpret it as a mental illness.

    I said this earlier.

    I am very honest.

    If they ask me if I still talk to spirits, I am going to say yes I do.

    I could lie to get myself out of it. I did lie once, and they didn't lock me away. But in general I believe in being honest.

    I am fighting for people's rights here!

  13. Posted

    14 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    Yet we're not in a mental hospital. It's usually when you end up acting very out of the ordinary, to the point where people fear for your safety, that you're likely to end up in a mental hospital. Talking to spirits just means you're a psychic. Nobody goes around throwing psychics in the mental hospital.

    Didn't you read what I said when I said they justify keeping me in there because I talk to spirits?

    That's literally why they keep me there.

    The fact that you don't believe it would happen shows that you're OPEN to believing how corrupt the mental health system is, but you're not there yet.

    You'll get there, I'm sure.

  16. Posted

    This whole fricking forum could be 'rightfully' diagnosed as schizophrenic.

    Look at what you guys talk about!

    Do you think that the mental health system would actually approve of these discussions?

    Spirituality is demonised by the mental health system.

    Mystical experiences are not acknowledged.

    Talking to spirits is a hallucination associated with schizophrenia, apparently.

    And believing in spirits is a delusion, also associated with schizophrenia.

  17. Posted

    Just now, Carl-Richard said:

    Ok. I'll say it's possible to have mystical experiences and at the same time be rightfully diagnosed with a mental illness, and it's possible to have mystical experiences and not be diagnosed with a mental illness.

    And I'll say that being diagnosed with a mental illness doesn't mean you actually have that mental illness, and not being diagnosed with a mental illness doesn't mean that you don't have one.

  18. Posted · Edited by Artsu

    9 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

    Yes, of course. 

    I've been diagnosed with a serious mental illness when it took a turn for the worse though.  But I've had prolonged experiences of the mystical.  And large levels of being 'energized' 

    I'm not very good at describing it, so I don't bother but there are people out there. 

     

    It's notoriously hard to describe this stuff.

    That's one of the main problems when it comes to the mental health system.

    Though even with PERFECT explanations, they still wouldn't accept it.

     

    For me, it's not that it takes a turn for the worse per se, but that it gets intense.

    My behaviour changes, and it worries people.

    Soon, the mental health system are called, and once you've been put in the psych ward once, it's very easy to go back there.

    There is no justice in the mental health system. The psych ward is corrupt as it comes.

     

     

  23. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Edvardas said:

    Are you open to the idea that you are in denial about your mental illness?

    I am simply asking you to share your insights, nothing more, really. 

    Anyway, yes, you can have extremely mind-blowing insights continuously for hours at some points in your journey, but that's a long way ahead. It requires years of serious work.

    Derp.

     

    Hours? What about weeks?

  24. Posted

    7 minutes ago, Edvardas said:

    If you're serious about this work, then that happens often. 

    Also, feel free to share some of the realizations that you are having. We will see if they are important or are you just tricking yourself?

    Because it might be a mental illness, but you are trying to find an escape route for not doing anything by getting approval on this forum. Just a possibility, I guess. 

     

    So this is normal for spiritual people?

    I've been locked in the psych ward for talking about it. And I'm very honest so I keep talking about it.

    How do I get out of this trap?

     

    Not gonna take the rest of your post seriously.

     

     

  25. Posted

    Do any of you have phases where mystical experiences just keep happening, day after day?

    And you might become very energised as a result, with lots of realisations, powerful experiences, and so on, constantly happening?

    I get this, maybe once a year, and it's been diagnosed as a severe mental illness. It's not ACTUALLY a mental illness though, and is seen as such because the mental health system is thoroughly anti-spiritual.

    Can any of you relate?