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True, I had written a detailed post on how biases affect our experiences: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/96934-conditioning-your-mind-to-have-better-experiences/

So, are there no other forums similiar to this anyone here is aware of?

Wow, that website was really fun and well designed!

Lol, do they really exist? Btw, are you fond of Christ? Even crisis is trying to become Christ in your words.

Yep, happens when you are focusing so much for so long that you are unable to hear your nature's calls. That's why I believe some teachers advice to keep a note on secondary perceptions as well outside the meditation object.

@SteveRogers, I am happy that you found what true love is after your commendable effort along with other Avengers in saving earth.

Ha ha, sounds like a horror story!

For those who have a desire for knowledge, there is everything to know. For them, being free of bias is important if they wish to understand reality without getting deluded and lost. But for those who give up the desire and surrender, there is nothing to know. There is only everything to experience.

I don't know if it's a hippocrisy are not, but we do have a sports here where we play with bulls, get killed and have fun! The bulls don't get killed though, but maybe it gets tortured.

I am not wise enough to judge his intentions, but the one video that always intrigues me a lot is this video,lol :

Forgetting every bias so that it's not affecting our thoughts and actions might be possible though, if not removing them from memory.

@Keef What about humanity? If that's what you follow, of course.

Not entirely out of the question, but another question to ask is, how much suffering does it cause, if that's the case.

Trees are selfless, so we are not helping the trees, the trees are helping us.

I thought of this again, and yes, in my opinion, the world should move away from lust and similiar pleasure inducing experiences and move towards higher forms of love. Now, it's not possible to move away since lust plays a major role in creating love between two unrelated people, providing some relief during periods of intense suffering and also babies. But when society reaches a point where a person can love an unrelated person with the same love as sexual partners have, ( which some even now are doing), but without the condition of sexual pleasure, quality of life improves to drastic levels, and we have alternative methods to produce babies, lust is needed no more. It's the same for families and other bonds that are conditional, but it has to be one step at a time and automatic and not forced.

Don't fall into the path of mental masturbation though, ha ha! Unless you enjoy it as an activity just like watching a movie.

Unconditional love begins to manifest as soon as you move away from your body or self, and expands as your circle of inclusiveness expands towards family, friends, religion,language, country, humanity and finally everything within your experience. Simply having those identities associated with you is not the same as considering them same as your self, though.

I didn't call platonic love for family as unconditional love, but closer to it than the one due to lust. What Buddhists do and say as you say is for the ones who can't bear suffering or who wish to experience oneness at a faster rate, and it's just one of the many ways. I feel that parental love is closer to unconditional love than lust-filled love. That doesn't make lust bad, unless it's not consensual. Based on my own experiences, scientific studies and biases, I believe that the society must move away from pleasure and move towards activities that increase the baseline state of happiness, and hence the assumption on how incest can push the society towards pleasure.

Ha ha! By 'you', I meant anybody can justify their religious beliefs in forms of spirituality. True spirituality is where you are see through all the beliefs that religion and spirituality in the name of religion has imposed on us, and strive to be as unconditional as possible and be compassionate if we are not able to be so. It's close to heart rather than any ideologies.

To be fair, if there is a relationship where a family member loves another family member romantically, without any sexual feelings, that would require a different set of views. But, we should also look into how it affects the society's stance as well, whether those individuals leads to increase in sexual feelings towards family members in the society. Those must be studied in detail before making any comments.

That's why I called it a soul and not people. A soul, according to me, is something which has an ego, but without all the biases we are having here. Non conditional state is the most blissful state ever, it's not about whether people wish to be blissful or not.

I agree, that's why I mentioned parent's love as something closer to Unconditional love compared to romantic or sexual love. Unconditional love is not that easy to create and it's a major achievement when you achieve unconditional love within an expanded ego outside of your own body, which in this case is family. Why I mention mother's love is superior to romantic love in terms of unconditionality is solely because there is a higher chance of lust affecting the unconditional part of it. If you are able to overcome lust in entirety with your romantic partner, it can be considered similar or higher than mother's love, even according to Spirituality. The genetic code is relevant for close relationships because romantic relationships maintained without lust is very rare, atleast according to my knowledge and experience. Yes, you can. You can use Spirituality however you wish. But, for me, spirituality is about compassion and unconditional love, and I try to encourage those aspects in human beings. The love for a child is nowhere near being the greatest unconditional love, but it's better than love for lust, in my opinion.

Imagine a day when male children are killed at birth everywhere just like women children were in South Asia. That would be the day when men start to fight for the right to exist,lol.

There's a reason why lust is placed at lower levels of spiritual development, close to survival. It is purely based on pleasure and instant gratification, and it's primary purpose is multiplication. Lust is a necessary part of survival, but it can also lead to and strengthen higher forms of love, such as romantic love. Romantic love is still placed at lower levels in spiritual development, compared to unconditional love. While homosexuality is no different from other kinds of romantic love, incest arising out of lust and sometimes romantic love, reduces the effects of love closer to unconditional love, created by parent,child or siblings or other close relationships, which are generally free of lust. Hence, incest is something that is naturally resisted by our soul, knowing that unconditional love is the only place where the soul can find complete peace and retain its blissful nature. Romantic love also can lead to unconditional love, but it is weaker than those created by the love for close relations.

The truth is, all these stuff exists in India, and comparatively more common than in western countries, but they are exaggerated to great proportions by a few. Many also fail to see the reasons behind such behaviours and develop hatred instead of compassion. Lack of quality education, infrastructure and healthcare has played a vital role in these stereotyped behaviours.