Princess Arabia

Yes. The knowing energy is the seeking energy, and doesn't know anything. It cannot know anything because that will be the end of it, so it constantly seeks to know.

There is nowhere to go and nothing to get. Only to the store and work and to get an ass whooping or to get laid. Expect no one to give you anything that will last and without you wanting more and that includes all gurus and all spiritual teachings. IT'S AN ADDICTION FOR THE SENSE OF SEPARATION. You'll still end up typing away, reading away and looking up at the sky hoping for redemption. This is it. Don't believe me, give it time and that's exactly how it happens. TIME. No such thing. That's the sense of separation itself. There isn't the appearance of time and the appearance of the sense of self, both are one of the same.

There's no joy without disturbance of joy. Don't fool yourself. I don't need joy from anyone because joy isn't given or taken. Joy just is. Go ahead and own joy all you want, let's see how long you can keep it.

We don't have to agree. Why do you need agreements. This is not a contest, it's a discussion.

OK, much love. I'm fine regardless and so are you.

This is just a story, but when I first came on this forum I was so naive spiritually speaking. I've grown a tremendous lot and have pretty much gone full circle. I'm not feeding into the ego's bullshit and not saying things people want to hear. When they get backed into a corner, their only defense is to accuse me of being advaitwhatever. I don't listen to advaita and I don't watch teachings to get anything from spiritually. Only Leo and a very few I might take notes on; and Leo, only because he says some radical things that I see to be the case, but I also pick and choose there what sticks. Doesn't matter, though, as I'm not looking to get anywhere spiritually. That's all illusion and pipe-dream stuff. Nothing needs to be done. Who the fuck am I. It's all the dog chasing it's own tail anyway and the crabs trying to grab the other crab from getting drowned. People are too blind to see this because they're too busy looking.

That's the trap, expecting me to be a joy all the time and to stop feeding you unwanted feelings. If I give you nothing, I'm not a joy. Me, me, me, me, me,. Truth hurts.

God, not this video again. Thank God there are no real traps. This convo i think is a duplicate of a previous one I had with you a few years back. I believe it was you, if I remember correctly. If it wasn't, it was someone else. Did you know anything about traps before someone told you about traps, no, all made up. A story. Did anyone had to tell you to breathe. No, no story, not made up. I'm not a slave to life. Eating, shitting, peeing, talking, laughing, conversing, sneezing, belching, etcetc, will still go on trap or no trap. You're in the trap of believing there are traps, that's the only trap. Call it what you want and tell me what's going to happen to me if I'm already in the trap you've slapped unto me. Please tell me what will happen....waiting....

Pretty much....except you're suggesting there's a you that didn't choose. I know it's word semantics but I'm just responding and replying and expressing. I didn't choose my parents because there is just no I to begin with, not because I didn't get to choose and the choice was done for me there just isn't an I to choose and those aren't my thoughts, conditioning, beliefs, etc, my anything. Nothing is owned. That's why you're born with nothing die with nothing.

There's no one to be more aware or more conscious of anything. That's the dream. The processes and practices aren't really happening so there's no more being aware of what's not actually happening. It's similar to you wanting to change the appearance in the mirror without changing the source of the reflection. No one can alter or change what appears and what appears is nothing being that. This is why it's nothing, can't be touched, altered, changed. Can't touch nothing and can't change appearances. The one doing the process and practices is like nothing being the process and practice and the one not doing the process or practices is nothing being that. Either way it's nothing being that and all are just appearances. The river's appearance of the moon's reflection can be altered by say throwing a rock in the river and the water distorting the appearance, and it can get still again to reflect it's original 'picture', that's still nothing doing/being that disturbance. Can't escape nothing. All the raising of awarenesses and higher consciousness is still nothing being that. It's all empty and also the reflection. Nothing is really happening because nothing is everything. This is why the "no one" term can be so resisted because the someone is the reflection thinking its the real deal. This is not a suggestion to not practice or do anything. No one decides that anyway, this is an explanation of what freedom and liberation is like. It's already done but no one benefits because it's not personal as there's no one to benefit. It's all there is. This is also what saying it's just an appearance means and how everything is perfect and nothing needs fixing. When one starts to look at life as no one and nothing excluded in anything it gets easier to see what's really happening. No one is above any other and everyone wins, even though there's no one to win at anything - just an expression, Doesn't appear like that, but it is the case. Take the observer away and it's all just what's appearing with no labels and distinctions or right or wrong.

Someone here loves you too❤️hehe.

Yes, because of the "here" part. It's the tragedy of humans, thinking we are "here". That here sense. It sucks and breeds suffering and discontentment. It doesn't feel good at times and is always seeking for "there". Can't be helped. Not even so-called enlightenment can help that because there's no one "here" to know the difference and no one here already. Enlightenment is a trap that's why the mind invented chop wood carry water and says enlightened people can still be so and so. It excuses away it's illusory term and finds all sorts of reasoning why and how an enlightened being can still be enlightened and do such and such.

Yes this seems to happen here a lot. Think of a reflection in the water (I love this analogy so I use it a lot). You see the moon's reflection and all that surrounds the moon, maybe clouds and stars and trees, all in the reflection in say the river. That whole entire reflective bubble is reacting to itself, meaning if the moon or the appearance changes the reflection also changes to match that. Exact duplication. The reflection is like the dream. You. So when other move you move, when other thinks you think, when other drink you drink, etc. Just isn't noticeable because of linearity. How the dream abstracts, how it interprets and process. There are times when it will seem to catch up and sync perfectly but that won't appear to happen always. I'll give an example. Recently in the mind, I've been saying a lot "the blind leading the blind". It's an expression that came out of nowhere. Just something I've been saying to myself a lot was even going to write it out in my journal, but didn't - for no reason. All of a sudden I'm reading a comment by @Purpletree and he said "the blind leading the blind". You may have seen it. He even went on to express what it means in Bible terms. My linear mind was catching up to the reflection. Something else recently too, but I forgot because it happens so many times and also in my personal life. It is all happening in the eternal now but the mind only processes it linearly and it seems to be a continuous process - life that is well in actuality it's all at once. Just like the reflection. Think of the moon as nothing and the reflection to be what nothing is being. That's why I say nothing is happening and there's no one. It's all nothing being everything. We're just playing what seems to be catch-up. It's already done and that's why processes and practices are futile in this sense. @theleelajoker

I don't need psychedelics to see the Divine. I see the Divine everywhere, even in cockroaches. A cockroach wouldn't know to run from me if it wasn't Divine intelligence. The dream loves flamboyancy and to see elephants in a wall and bright colors vibrating away. All I need do is look everywhere. Divine intelligence is sitting on a park bench sipping tea. None of that is anyone's doing; it's all Divine, my love, even the psychedelics you've taken that spoilt you into wanting something more. @vibv

Yes, it's just this simple. The mind is what wants it to be flamboyant and extreme with lots of fairytales and fantasies. What dream do you think would want to dream of just walking down the road. It wants to be on the beach sipping margaritas and hot chicks on the side. A dream of a lonely stone on the road is quite boring to the mind/dream. So I agree, but I like simplicity.

Nothing is alive or dead. That's also a distinction. Nothing is polarized. The mind is what's making that distinction also. Aliveness is all there is, so nothing is alive. 'It's alive' suggests something else that's dead.

Precious is a distinction. The Divine has no distinctions. It is all distinctions and no distinction. The mind is capable of grasping distinctions which is what you have done. It is distinction itself. It's not capable of grasping the ungraspable, which is the Divine itself which is nothing. Precious to the Divine suggests separation and that something else isn't precious. The Divine doesn't see anything as precious. It is the seeing and the precious. Infact, it doesn't even see at all. Seeing is happening all on it's own. There is no it to see anything, only appears to.

By saying it's boring. You made the distinction. Nothing seems boring unless you seek excitement. It's automatic. Goes together.

It never ends, only rests. You call it dumb and expect same views and same languages when life's expression is all about variety and seeming differences. The spice of life is what you call dumb because it feels boring to you. You're looking for life to excite you because you're boring all on your own. That's what energy does, it seeks for excitement. How exciting is that. You would be bored stiff if you were nothing too.

There's no one in life going around saying 'there's no one' all day every day or in regular conversations. It just happens to come up in a non-dual conversation that fits the bill then we go back to normal life. Who writes about "there is someone here", only @Someone herewho feels the need to say there's someone here...lol. No one says anything about someone being here, sounds good, not 'there's no one', who wants to hear that, doesn't feel good.

Says the one who started the thread. Jesus, how much more erratic can life be. It wants excitement but creates boredom for itself. Make it make sense. It can't. It's spontaneous and free.

All about "value" and "ifs". These words almost always follow when someone opposes the 'no one' statement. Nothing wrong with it, it shows intent and resistance to what is. If there's no value in saying there's 'no one', why say it. My life is all about value, intent and purpose and I'm trying to make it good. Why spoil that. Yet we wonder why we suffer. We don't want truth, we can't handle truth we want fantasies and to live in self-deception. No self, no deception. Yet we look to gurus to straighten up the mess we've created. All a dream with no one inside.

The man with the pants hanging down off his ass cheeks who loves rap music and drives a mustang or walks in the hood with 3 baby mamas VS the man with a long white beard, a robe and wearing a colorful dress with pants underneath and a red dot between his forehead and sitting in a lotus position on a mat on the floor saying the same exact things (spiritually speaking) and talking about reality and consciousness and the likes......which one would be believed in more and taken more seriously. That's the self-deception we've created in ourselves. Don't fool yourselves. Do you think you can undo the thought that arose when you envisioned both and the belief that came with the vision. We're trying to do the impossible, become something else that isn't. Override what we've created. It's all a dream. Dream of what could be, what can become, dream of next, dream of continuity, dream of hope and what can be. This is why it's called a dream. It isn't based on what is, but what seems to be and what seems to be happening and what might happen. Let's open ourselves up to the cosmos is dream dreaming.

OK. So is this conversation then since it couldn't seem to happen without time. The divine is also being time. There's nothing precious for the divine. It's all the Divine.

How can everything 'happen'. Happen suggests something that is doing something else. Jumping happens because there's a body that jumped. Laughing happens when a body laughs. How does everything happen. Temporary.....i don't even know how anything happens temporarily.😏