Princess Arabia

Such entitlement. I've had enough of this conversation. Maybe when you grow up and realize women have more to risk than just having the mindset of an easy lay and a night filled with passion can lead her into the doom house and that lots of men only want sex from her and she can't just lay up with any and any one, you'll understand why. Maybe turn yourself into someone that a woman can feel safe and secure with and from the way you speak on here about women to me, maybe try to polish up the lingo and the way you view them on a whole. WE'RE NOT HERE FOR YOUR SELFISH SEXUAL GRATIFICATIONS. I've seen time and time again that you're not presenting the best version of yourself to women but speak about them like trash and expect the best out of them. I'm through with this conversation with you, I have nothing more to say on the matter with you and i hope you really start to see the value of women and the role they play in a man's life other than what you think it is and that being for just sex.

@HojoThe point of me referencing the marriage and divorce and baby industries, is to show that there cannot be such a wide problem of men and women getting together if those other industries are also fruitful. They somewhat go hand in hand on a general scale and on some level. You said men are having problems picking up women but there's another booming industry called marriage happening. Divorce and baby rearing. I can add to the list that suggests men are indeed hooking up with women. Child support cases in court, domestic violence, Valentine's Day affairs, so many that suggests this. So the problem isn't men picking up women but the men who are having problems picking up women thinking the problem is men are having problems picking up women. This is an individual problem that can be rectified on an individual level not on a mass scale.

A point is better made and understood when there are examples. One's mind cannot be open to really understand their own claims and perspectives if it's only limited to one factor. There were factors responsible for that industry becoming a billion dollar industry and there will be factors within that billion dollar industry that causes another industry to be successful. Only focusing on the one industry and trying to argue a point by only referencing the one industry and saying you're not speaking about the other industries will only result in limited pov's and illuminate biases and projections and turn the trajectory of the conversation into one that seems goal-oriented to just trying to prove a point and not see how the held perspective could be faulty because of blind spots not revealed by the seeing of outside causations.

It's not about a need. I had to attend to your comment to make a response. What you're trying to say probably is that men don't require the same kind of attention that women require. Men need the attention to even start the dating process.

I never said it wasn't true but the question is "what's true". The numbers can represent something true and something false simultaneously. Something good and something bad simultaneously. Marriage is also an industry worth millions, so is divorce and baby rearing and baby killing. If so many men were having problems picking up women on a whole, those other industries wouldn't even be profitable because they require the two to be in union with each other. Problem is, men want hot models and then complain when they can't get them and call the ones they settled for stupid or the ones that settled for them stupid.

It's not about easiness being good or bad. It's about having sex, as a woman, with whom you really want to have sex with. You say dishonest because you think she really wants to but holds back because of. Maybe she just doesn't want to. Of course, men would love it for women to be easy. It's not about what men want, but what they will respect and see in a woman. All of this depends on different stages in one's life. It's not so cut and dry. An 18yr old female will probably view sex differently than a 30yr old.

There are plenty of billion dollar scams out there feeding off of people's emotions and having people believing all sorts of shit while the others are raking in the results. Don't fall for the numbers. Learning pick up is not the only answer. The men teaching men how to better themselves, improve themselves, work on themselves and how to attract what they want in life are not raking in the billions because they don't cater to the hate emotion or the "I need something from women" narrative. Men don't need to learn how to pick up women, men need to learn how to attract women. Women also have pick up communities learning how to attract the men they want to attract. You just don't know about it because that's not where your focus is. It's on the lack of what you're not getting, not what you want. Most women are being hit on on a daily basis. It's not original and new. What's original is being original and becoming the type of man that women are flocking to. Women have options in this department because they are women, men have options in this department because they became a man.

Being easy on your own without a substance is different than being easy because of a substance. Saying drunk women are easy is attacking the women, saying it's easier to get a drunk woman in bed is attacking the substance. There is no blame either way it's just the perspective is being looked at from different angles.

This is the point right here that men don't understand. For a man and a woman, attention is different.

I was making a point. The point was that women want to sleep with who they want to sleep with. A man may want to sleep with a woman who doesn't want to sleep with him and if he's a "date raper", he might resort to that to get to sleep with her. Women who are drinking or even drunk may sleep with guys they wouldn't normally sleep with if they were sober. I never said drunk women were easy but it's easier to sleep with a drunk woman - there's a difference.

I didn't say that.

@Hojo

Lot of interpretations there. I never said MEN invented date rape. I said date rape was invented. Women are less inhibited when they are drinking, yes and some women are easier to get in the bed if drunk. Everyone knows that and it's no secret.

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There was a misunderstanding there. You assume I meant that that was his personality and that nothing created that and that's who he is and for no reason. No. There are circumstances that created that, but the message I was trying to put across wasn't about why date rapers are born or what makes up their psyche. Your suggestion was that men date rape because women don't give up sex easily and that's the issue we are commenting on.

Yes, thank you for being open about that and not denying it. It was quite obvious to me before you even said it. There's a certain energy to things and can even be felt via computer through words and implications. You say "through God" and that's very uplifting for you and inspiring and sometimes the best bet. However, to me, it's still important to try and understand what we're dealing with here in life so bitterness doesn't creep in because it only poisons us, not the other person. Aligning ourselves with what's real and true will surpass any worldly endeavors and will allow for better understanding of what is. For me, it's also important, but also to try and understand why things are the way they are. Not for existential matters but for worldly matters. As a woman, I could have easily went down the bitterness trail for men because it was too much about sex and physicality with them and not enough of who I am as a person. Now, I don't even care about that because I understand it and what we don't understand, we judge and call the enemy. Men aren't the enemy, ignorance is, and that goes for both genders. I'm still trying to understand men but just for understanding sake and it's just my nature. God alone, won't solve this challenge, love will. Hate turns to love when applied properly and is used to go within to understand where the root is. Bitterness stems from giving up and not willing to transform the hate into a positive. We need to understand that people are at different stages, survival strategies are in play, delusion is at the root and ignorance of our own constructs and other's plays a big role. What has helped me is the recognition that there are programs at play and what goes in is what comes out and that different programs are running for different people. Not everyone is at the same level and we all have different experiences, thoughts and beliefs running the show. Recognizing this helps with empathy and compassion but still keeping a firm grip on our own sense of individuality but realizing what the truth of it all is. This helps with feelings of contentment and pushes all the hatred and bitterness aside. Men and women are different in their make up both biologically and psychologically and are treated differently as children, so the program runs deep. It is up to us to understand this and take the time to understand this if we're feeling any ounce of bitterness and hatred creeping in and nit to let it be a part of the programming and embed itself into our psyche.

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It's simply the Absolute appearing as all that. No one is really self-deceived because there's no one. This is already liberation and freedom. So let's just get back to the apparent self-deception of it all where we're all thinking we're a separate human being that can be deceived by the concept of non-duality. There is no magnificent place to get to and no exotic awakening Bangs with blue lights and magic wands. Awakening and enlightenment is right here right now and this is all there is. Any story of an experience is just that - a story and an experience. Any deeper awakenings is just that deeper awakenings. You will still end up on earth going to sleep and waking up to go to work and parties and having sex and breaking up with your girlfriend and taking a dump and going to college and trying to ground yourself in the groundless ground because you think you're a somebody that can get somewhere and you don't want to fly there but take your time and awaken in 3months to tell about your story. There's no existential difference between you and the bumb on the street who knows nothing about this shit; in fact there is, he's less neurotic and just needs a piece of bread and a cold beer to get him through the next day while he sits on the street corner and watch sexy girls go by and go jerk off later under the bridge with his blanket and wake up to another cold beer he begged $2 for. He's not searching for happiness and enlightenment and suffering his awakenings that he can't unsee to now want more awakenings by taking drugs to piss himself. He just wants a sandwich and a beer to be alright until he ends up in the same place we'll all end up - in the grave. How many bumbs you see out there crying how they're suffering and can't get girls or hate their lives or worried about concepts, experiences, thoughts and desires. They just are and are apparently living from moment to moment and not suffering their existence but maybe only of hunger. A drunk is always drunk. A neurotic is always neurotic.

There are healthy versions of pizza. Maybe made with cauliflower instead of white flour, all veggies, homemade healthy marinara sauce etc. No cheese or even nut cheese. So that question is vague. Eating traditional pizza everyday isn't a good idea to maintaining one's health, no.

Only if you're trying to lose weight or if you're eating a lot of junk food. Not all fats are equal and some are beneficial. It's best to just watch the types of food you're eating; and if it's a balanced diet with mostly whole foods, calorie counting would not be necessary then.

I just saw this comment. Everytime there's a discussion with you about how I feel about what we're discussing and my pov's every time you use the word gaslight. Also I'm not enraged. I'm sitting on my couch typing with a smile on my face enjoying my evening. It will take a lot and I mean a lot more than a discussion of this nature to outrage me. Your hatred for women shows every time we speak on these issues. It's obvious. I should just stick to spiritual conversations with you or everything else other than relationships and sex. It always ends badly and usually from no animosity on my part towards you. The end.

I said subconsciously. I may want to eat but I can still hate food. People eat and throw up. It's a sickness called bulimia I believe. Just because the body craves sex, doesn't mean the mind loves women.

Doesn't dispute what I've said. Infact, the phrase CONSIDER THEMSELVES confirms it's a self fulfilling sabotage whatever that is. Nothing is as it seems. One has to look at the underlying factors to really see what's going on. Many incels are handsome and attractive and can attract women, they're just involuntarily repelling them without realizing it and then blame themselves and women for their voluntary sexless nature. If they really wanted to, loved women, liked being around them, they wouldn't find it so hard. The hate and dislike came before the sexless reality. Some guys will not like to hear this, but it's the same reason how they're able to get other things accomplished in their lives - because they wanted it badly enough. I can tell you have a problem with women, the way you speak about them and your narrative all the time. You dislike women, I fact, you've said to me before they're only good for one thing. That will repel women and that's probably the same kind of attitude these incels have and that's why they subconsciously don't really want to have sex with women. That's enough from me on the topic. Don't need to awaken any haters.

Not necessarily. It's physiological and subconscious. They don't want to have sex with women and are acting put their anger towards women by making sure they self-sabotage themselves into not getting the sex. They are rebelling.

@HojoDon't be fooled. A lot of incels really aren't looking to have sex with women, they're looking not to because they were already angry with women and that's why they're no having it.