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Sit down and meditate.. And find out what is actual. No. .It's just that the intellect must be dropped to realize what I'm saying. The mind has to be still. As long as you are on "yeah but this yeah but that" mode you won't get it.

LOL it's not philosophy or intellect. When you transcend all philosophies and the mind.. You naturally discover this.

@justfortoday yes you are saying the same thing but using a different terminology.

So I've been going through what I would call a radical identification awakening. As a result of intense meditation sessions and self-inquiry. The seperate sense of self and doership is completely collapsing.. The veil has completely broken and I'm aware that I'm not the ego.. Who thinks it's doing stuff. I'm not the body or mind. Or the world. The body is seen as the world.. Not me. A complete understanding has occurred that I'm pure present. At the center. What's surrounding the center is none of my business. The body mind and the world. It will unfold naturally as it's always done. But I as pure present nothingness is just a vessel for it. None of it is in my control. This point about control is very important.. Because it leads to the discovery that you are not who you think you are. You think you are separate entity. You are a specific thing. You think you are the doer. You're not. When thoughts arise.. You are not thinking them. When the body moves internally or externally.. You are not moving it. You have as much control over your body as you have over my body.. Zero. If you raise your hand.. You are not doing It. This is important because that means you are not the body.. And you are not the seperate self who is in control. So what are you?

@Nahm ??

Happened during meditation session. Trying to identify what you are from what you are not. And becomes crystal clear that whatever is arising is not who you are. For you are the emptiness that everything arises inside of it. So whatever thought perception sensations arise.. They come and go.. You remain ever present. As nothing.

You are not the doer.

Said the intellect.

@Javfly33 thanks dude.

Ofcourse you don't.

Intellect is making Distinctions and shoulds. As always. Nothing wrong with it btw but it won't get you here.

This is not a philosophy or a belief. You become conscious of it as being the ultimate truth. Only thing that exists is nothingness. And that is me. Period. Ofcourse it's not possible to get it intellectually. Because the intellect is what's working a full time job to prevent this realization. You need to destroy the intellect.

The "you" and "me" That you are referring to here are the bodies. The body is not who you or me are. What you are is nothingness. So am I. Therefore we are identical. The relative domain is made of infinite dualities that are actually unified and one. So there is literally no difference between your cat.. You.. And me. All equally nothing.

Your consciousness? Lol. you ARE Conciousness. Not an owner of it.

There is only one thing that needs zen.. And that is YOU. you are not talking to me and pointing out gaps in my communication.. You are talking to yourself and pointing out gaps in your own understanding.

There is nothing wrong with anything. And ofcourse that means even thinking that there is something wrong.. Is not wrong.

Thanks. Meditate daily. Practice self - inquiry daily. Ramana maharshi method.. Asking who am I? .. Answers will come up.. "I'm this body I'm that guy I'm this thought etc".. Notice that you are not that because these are temporary appearances that comes and goes but you are ever present. And keep subtracting. Also read the collection of Robert Adam's satsangs.. I've post it on the high consciousness resource section. It's very helpful.

No. Your body is also doing what it came here to do. Namely asking these questions. That's how it appears. To you. Because your mind can't sit still. It has to generate thoughts.. Stories.. Questions.. Proplems.. Endlessly. For you to be real. At this moment.. Nothing seems to be this or that.. There is only absolute being silent fully present perfect and awake. But you have to distract yourself.. For that's everything you can ever possibly do.. Distraction. For if you just realize what I'm saying you will be left with all your illusions shattered. And the illusory seperate self doesn't want that. So it has to keep going. In reality none of what you said is actually happening right now. But ofcourse you won't get it and your mind will elaborate endlessly. Which is perfectly perfect. Nothing wrong with it per say. But it's just I won't repeat it again. You either get it or you don't. But since there is no one to get it and no "it" to get.. It's all good.

No "why" is answerable. Nothingness is waking up to itself. The separate self doesn't wake up because it is illusory. It dissolves.. Or the appearance of it dissolves.. And the true Self shines. It's just removing the mask of the seperate self and seeing what is actually there. There is no nothing wrong with the body. For you have yet to understand the body is here to do what it's here to do. Think about other human bodies that you see on the streets.. Do you bother with what they are doing? No. for you understand they are not you. Who is waking up? Now imagine you add "this body" to the list until the whole world including your body is seen from the perspective of a pre-written movie that has nothing to do with you as the watcher nor is it in your control. It's one thing tho to theorize about this.. And to actually experience it as being the case.

No. There is nothing for the body to achieve. So what exactly is "it"?

@Dodo I'm gone. Not mental. Just the gone

@Inliytened1

When you give your back to the world your mind assumes there is a world behind you.. You do this because you need to create reality.. Because If you don't create it.. It doesn't exist. If you stop assuming anything on top of what is "actual".. You would see the only actual thing is nothing. You think the phone that you are holding is actual.. It's not.. There is no phone.. Each moment there is a changing appearance but your mind comes in and create out of this groundless flow an illusion of "object". There are no objects. Each moment you are holding a new phone. And there is no moments. Each moment ends as it starts. If you calm your mind and meditate you will realize this. There is nothing here but your mind must create reality using thoughts so that the seperate self doesn't die and become infinity. Forget about understanding what is being said here btw. You can't understand this even tho you perfectly understand it already!

There is no difference. You are literally physically me! What's looking through your eyes right now is what is looking through mine.

Thanks. Well I'm waking up lol. I've seen who is wearing the mask called "me"